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The Protagonist posted:following this it's entirely possible that all that dispersed energy swirls around for uncountable eons before, by incredibly improbable chance, converges cataclysmicly, starting the whole process over again this cycle repeats infinitely at a speed impossible to perceive until the universe forms a sentient observer
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the universe is so big that every possible substance has its own cloud of itself somewhere. scientists agree that there exists a vast cum field somewhere, maybe even with a dick shape to it
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Brannock posted:this cycle repeats infinitely at a speed impossible to perceive until the universe forms a sentient observer And that observer was Albert Einstein.
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once the universe is at thermodynamic equilibrium does time continue to elapse? probably right? but isnt time basically a feature of thermodynamic disequilibrium? im all confused
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Orkin Mang posted:the universe is so big that every possible substance has its own cloud of itself somewhere. scientists agree that there exists a vast cum field somewhere, maybe even with a dick shape to it we need to send a dick shaped spacecraft to this theoretical cum cloud that must be our legacy as a species
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Jun 5, 2014 05:20
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Ocean Book posted:once the universe is at thermodynamic equilibrium does time continue to elapse? probably right? but isnt time basically a feature of thermodynamic disequilibrium? im all confused I think time stops. Time is a function of change in space.
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Jun 5, 2014 05:21
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redshirt posted:I think time stops. Time is a function of change in space.
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Jun 5, 2014 05:21
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time as we know it stops that isnt really and end of the universe its just the point that it becomes impossible for us to comprehend
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Jun 5, 2014 05:22
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I don't wanna die someone make immortality real
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Jun 5, 2014 05:23
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Your Dead Gay Son posted:I don't wanna die someone make immortality real you will literally be reincarnated
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Jun 5, 2014 05:23
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if you ever feel like "I need a way to humble myself" then cosmology is a surefire way of triggering that it's absolutely bonkers and disgusting tbh that we flip out about mundane things and start wars and kill/rape each other over things that are ultimately less than insignificant in the grand scale of everything the true horror is the cognizance of cosmological loneliness
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Jun 5, 2014 05:24
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Space itself could continue to change, devoid of everything but said fluctuations. We're deep into total speculation now though.Ocean Book posted:unless vacuum fluctuation is constrained by something, this is inevitable, right? Yep! So now the really cool mystery is why does nothing itself seem to result in an inevitable something.
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Jun 5, 2014 05:24
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Space owns. Now we just need to figure out how to make wormholes so we can jump around the universe.
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Your Dead Gay Son posted:I don't wanna die someone make immortality real immortality would loving suck imagine suffocating for eternity in the vacuum of space as you watched everything around you slowly turn to iron then atomize over a period of millions to the power of millions of years
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Jun 5, 2014 05:25
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give me immortality with an optional suicide clause
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Jun 5, 2014 05:26
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Brannock posted:if you ever feel like "I need a way to humble myself" then cosmology is a surefire way of triggering that there are tons of alien civilizations out there just that none of them developed along the right technological path to explore space i am super stoked for when we figure out ftl travel and can embark on european colonialism part 2
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Jun 5, 2014 05:26
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a thousand years in the future aliens will live in ghettos and bemoan the capitalist imperialists who have taken over the quadrant
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Fojar38 posted:there are tons of alien civilizations out there just that none of them developed along the right technological path to explore space you'll be dead by then though there's an argument that humans were the first sentient species to figure all this out and that's why we haven't had any alien visitors or contact yet, iirc there's some models that suggest that we're still very very very early in the lifespan of the universe
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^^gently caress Another interesting thing to note: given the projected lifetime of the observable universe, it is still very young. One possible explanation of the Fermi paradox is then that we are the very first advanced civilization to wake up. All those super advanced beings in our fiction that already have everything figured out? It's our duty to become them. The Protagonist fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Jun 5, 2014 |
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Moridin920 posted:a thousand years in the future aliens will live in ghettos and bemoan the capitalist imperialists who have taken over the quadrant We will trickle down the wisdom of Reagan and Rand across the Systems.
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The Protagonist posted:Another interesting thing to note: given the projected lifetime of the observable universe, it is still very young. Seems highly unlikely, given the space, the opportunities, and the time.
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The Protagonist posted:Another interesting thing to note: given the projected lifetime of the observable universe, it is still very young. 
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Fojar38 posted:there are tons of alien civilizations out there just that none of them developed along the right technological path to explore space I'm sure plenty have figured out how to traverse large areas of space. The universe is just so drat big that none of them have happened across Earth yet.
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in the grim darkness of the future there is only heat death
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Ilikedirt posted:there are more galaxies in the solar system than there are atoms in the entire universe
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Jun 5, 2014 05:32
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supervoids are creepy as poo poo there's already like an impossible-to-conceptualize distance of just sheer nothing between galaxies in even dense parts of the universe supervoids are an impossibly huge space of just sheer lack of anything
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Fojar38 posted:there are tons of alien civilizations out there just that none of them developed along the right technological path to explore space the cool thing about this is that we don't need to shake hands with aliens to confirm they're real, we just have to find a way to pick up their radio signals.  Here's the distance Earth's broadcasts have traveled so far.
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redshirt posted:Seems highly unlikely, given the space, the opportunities, and the time. everything seems unlikely say, based on what we observe, that you need around 4-5billion years of just planetary evolution to get life/sentience/civilization, but you need several billion years before that for stellar evolution for all the heavy elements to seed. That would mean that life could have been forming only a little longer than the lifespan of the earth.
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Brannock posted:supervoids are creepy as poo poo Good place to dump future space toxic waste.
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I thought signal dispersion means that even if we pick up an alien signal it would be indistinguishable from background noise by the time it got to us.The Protagonist posted:everything seems unlikely Hegemony of Man 
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Robo Reagan posted:the cool thing about this is that we don't need to shake hands with aliens to confirm they're real, we just have to find a way to pick up their radio signals. Robo Reagan posted:
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The Protagonist posted:^^gently caress you know how in every science fiction story theres some hyper aggressive imperialistic race that the good guys are usually opposed to irl thats us
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redshirt posted:Good place to dump future space toxic waste. Even better: in the future when we have blackhole reactors, any massive particle is an acceptable fuel. So we can just dump our poo poo into an entirely different universe! 
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Yeah, it's in all honesty not very likely, but it's still a possibility
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we are all starstuff. space dust coalesced into solid form and somehow bestowed upon the gift of sentiency it is beyond absurd that we hate each other based on trivial differences when we are all we have in the face of cold indifferency
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The Protagonist posted:everything seems unlikely It's possible that life existed as little as 15 million years after the Big Bang according to a few papers. With what we know of life, microbes could have been chilling in heat vents on the very earliest planets, warmed by the fuckton of radiation left over from the Big Bang Jeff Goldblum sums it up pretty well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkWeMvrNiOM
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Fojar38 posted:you know how in every science fiction story theres some hyper aggressive imperialistic race that the good guys are usually opposed to I hope not. One of my sources of optimism about the intent/needs of other possible species and our own is that if you have the ability to make the interstellar trip, then you've got the ability to live fine in the unpopulated vacuum with raw materials alone. ...unfortunately this doesn't preclude the possibility of an arc that can just barely limp the trip and didn't know there were natives already there  Robo Reagan posted:It's possible that life existed as little as 15 million years after the Big Bang according to a few papers. The Protagonist fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Jun 5, 2014 |
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Just wait until we find out aliens don't believe in Allah the light and the truth.
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The Protagonist posted:I hope not. One of my sources of optimism about the intent/needs of other possible species and our own is that if you have the ability to make the interstellar trip, then you've got the ability to live fine in the unpopulated vacuum with raw materials alone. I think it's more than likely IF (big if of course) we ever encountered an alien entering Earth's orbit they'd be hostile, at least in the sense they'd have their own agendas on a multitude of topics and this might end up conflicting with the people of Earth. For instance, it's likely any advanced alien will be an omnivore. And omnivores are capable of anything.
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The Protagonist posted:oh drat, i hadn't heard this. still, its also possible that the chances of life, complex life, and intelligent life are so mindbogglingly unlikely it's happened for the first (or among the first few dozen/hundred/thousand/million/...) time here Some people are starting to think that we may be some of the first guests to the party, yeah. Microbes are one thing, but it took us billions of years to get to where we are and the universe isn't that old. I think it was 5-10 billion years ago that there was enough star cum floating around to make anything more advanced than a few cells.
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