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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
or they could be so advanced we wouldn't even be able to comprehend their existence.

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
though on the other hand, there's lots of stuff we can't perceive, but our machines can

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
we'll rain down nuclear fire on the heads of lesser beings and take their wealth for our own

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Moridin920 posted:

we'll rain down nuclear fire on the heads of lesser beings and take their wealth for our own

nah, far more effective by that point to grab a few km wide asteroids and chuck them at some idiot fuckers

depends on what you consider wealth though. if it's gold you're after, hanging out near neutron stars seems like a good bet

quote:

A recently observed flash in the distant universe suggests that smacking two dense, dead stars together can create gold in vast amounts – with a mass 10 times that of the moon. The finding may help settle a debate about whether colliding stars or supernovae are the main sources of heavy metals in the universe.

Robo Reagan fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Jun 5, 2014

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.
perhaps it is we who are the idiotfuckers


realtalk if anybody has happened by they probably don't want anything to do with us until we can actually unify as a civilization and stop slaughtering and eating our cousins

realrealtalk the only thing that may have happened by are probably ancient, autonomous probes beaming pictures back to creators who'll never see them

moon the sky

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
a human boot, stomping an alien face

forever

naem
May 29, 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFTaiWInZ44&feature=youtube_gdata_player

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Reporting for shovel mission Sir.

Moridin920 posted:

a human boot, stomping an alien face

forever

The Terran Empire is inevitable.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Moridin920 posted:

we'll rain down nuclear fire on the heads of lesser beings and take their wealth for our own

we will uplift the bipedal dick people of rigel 7 to the light of terran civilization

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
i think the aliens should get off their vorlon butts and come smoke a blunt

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Reporting for shovel mission Sir.

Omi-Polari posted:

i think the aliens should get off their vorlon butts and come smoke a blunt

We could trade them blunts for mineral and mining rights on their worlds. :)

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
that's assuming that THC has any effect on them at all+ they have lungs to breathe it in with

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
we'll chemically engineer drugs specifically designed to keep the aliens subservient, docile, and happy

and productive

Stormfang1502
Jan 26, 2003

The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he's on.

Still not as big as Zaphods' ego

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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btw back in april a new theoretical model suggested that a warp drive might not require as much energy as we thought

but itd still need to use fusion power

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2014/04/23/warp-drive-research-key-to-interstellar-travel/

d3c0y2
Sep 29, 2009
There was a really shitily amazing book series that I forget the name of just now which involved two incredibly peaceful but diametrically opposed civilizations fighting a very low violence war for eons against each other because while they realise war is inevitable between the two of them they both abhor violence to such a degree that they can't bring themselves to just start vapourising each other.

Then one stupid idiot works out their civilisation will eventually lose, discovers humankind and despite being like "well gently caress these guys are all sociopathic violent maniacs" decides to uplift them to an interstellar race. Humankinds only talent is pure, suicidal war and they end up obliterating the other side within like 200 years. Then everyone realises they're probably next and it's too late to put humanity back on the rock they found them.

What I'm trying to say is Aliens are probably idiots ripe for conquering.

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.

Fojar38 posted:

btw back in april a new theoretical model suggested that a warp drive might not require as much energy as we thought

but itd still need to use fusion power

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2014/04/23/warp-drive-research-key-to-interstellar-travel/

Seems like it's just another project (Icarus) thats considering fusion.

I wanna know what the gently caress their (the nasa propulsion guys) mechanism is.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
They're gonna be all 'check it out we've worked peacefully for thousands of years and achieved space technology'

and we'll go 'our history is a history of war and destruction and you're probably next :jihad:'

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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The Protagonist posted:

Seems like it's just another project (Icarus) thats considering fusion.

I wanna know what the gently caress their (the nasa propulsion guys) mechanism is.

i cant find any articles that go into the super nerdy details but apparently the nasa guys think that they might be able to bring energy requirements for an alcubierre drive down from "exotic matter" to "fusion power" with a sufficiently efficient engine

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.
Somewhere, a debate rages about whether to contact the homosapians.

Aliens drive spacecars with "Don't let the monkeys off their rock!" bumbperstickers

Stormfang1502
Jan 26, 2003

The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he's on.

d3c0y2 posted:

There was a really shitily amazing book series that I forget the name of just now which involved two incredibly peaceful but diametrically opposed civilizations fighting a very low violence war for eons against each other because while they realise war is inevitable between the two of them they both abhor violence to such a degree that they can't bring themselves to just start vapourising each other.

Then one stupid idiot works out their civilisation will eventually lose, discovers humankind and despite being like "well gently caress these guys are all sociopathic violent maniacs" decides to uplift them to an interstellar race. Humankinds only talent is pure, suicidal war and they end up obliterating the other side within like 200 years. Then everyone realises they're probably next and it's too late to put humanity back on the rock they found them.

What I'm trying to say is Aliens are probably idiots ripe for conquering.

Star Cuck

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.

Fojar38 posted:

i cant find any articles that go into the super nerdy details but apparently the nasa guys think that they might be able to bring energy requirements for an alcubierre drive down from "exotic matter" to "fusion power" with a sufficiently efficient engine

I would really, honestly like to know more. There are so many loving issues with this idea, from turning to stopping to...gently caress


Can we just figure out fusion first, please?

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
if that's the whole universe then where's the camera. is it outside the universe?

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Moridin920 posted:

They're gonna be all 'check it out we've worked peacefully for thousands of years and achieved space technology'

and we'll go 'our history is a history of war and destruction and you're probably next :jihad:'

a civilization that's had thousands of years of peace will definitely have the tech to beat up a bunch of apes.

with how dog eat dog evolution and the universe is, the idea of a completely peaceful race is a tough pill to swallow. i think that if there's some kind of galactic network of dudes chilling it's probably like a big space UN that has to deal with extremists who want independence or more money or something gay like that

Robo Reagan fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Jun 5, 2014

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.

Orkin Mang posted:

if that's the whole universe then
it's not

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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The Protagonist posted:

I would really, honestly like to know more. There are so many loving issues with this idea, from turning to stopping to...gently caress


Can we just figure out fusion first, please?

this goes into a bit more detail from the looks of it but still not much

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblo...st-popular.html

keep in mind that warp drive research only gets 50 grand of annual funding

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.
I figure an advanced, unified and peaceful civilization would still be prudently concerned about other life like we are of viruses.

SwimmingSpider
Jan 3, 2008


Jön, jön, jön a vizipók.
Várják már a tólakók.
Ez a kis pók ügyes búvár.
Sok új kaland is még rá vár.

baku posted:




"Our Universe, the "cosmic web". Each yellow dot is a galaxy. The purple streams represent dark matter."


Now, take for instance our galaxy, the Milky Way. The Milky Way has about 300 billion stars in it. 300 billion. Our own solar system with its 1 star is so incredibly massive, and our galaxy has 300 billion of them. And that galaxy is just a little yellow blip on that picture.


And that picture constitutes 0.000001% of the known universe.

Read this in neil degresse tysons voice.

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Fojar38 posted:

this goes into a bit more detail from the looks of it but still not much

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblo...st-popular.html

keep in mind that warp drive research only gets 50 grand of annual funding

http://arxiv.org/

You might be able to find his actual paper here if you're lucky

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Reporting for shovel mission Sir.

Fojar38 posted:

btw back in april a new theoretical model suggested that a warp drive might not require as much energy as we thought

but itd still need to use fusion power

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2014/04/23/warp-drive-research-key-to-interstellar-travel/

Warp drive is just 30 years away.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Robo Reagan posted:

http://arxiv.org/

You might be able to find his actual paper here if you're lucky

the paper would be way too complex for me to make heads or tails of it all i can read is "warp drive maybe someday with fusion"

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.

Robo Reagan posted:

http://arxiv.org/

You might be able to find his actual paper here if you're lucky

I'm looking now because I've seen that dailygalazy article before and it's got fuckall for details

literally just 'we'll put a ring around the craft'

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Fojar38 posted:

the paper would be way too complex for me to make heads or tails of it all i can read is "warp drive maybe someday with fusion"


Ah, well the problem with space exploration is nobody else is really doing it. NASA has its pet projects like wanting to send some people to Mars, but it's hard to pitch space exploration to people because it doesn't directly* influence how much money some dudes makes off it in the end. The only thing that will light a fire under our asses in the foreseeable future is Russia/China deciding they want some Mars bases too.

*obviously it's paid dividends in terms of our cultural advancements and things like loving cellphones only being possible because of space exploration

Robo Reagan fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Jun 5, 2014

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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china cant even put a robot on the moon that doesnt break in less than a week and russias space program was koed 3 months ago

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Reporting for shovel mission Sir.
I think there's a lot of potential in asteroid mining. It's possible, there's maybe money to be made (and maybe a whole lot of it), and it could serve as a proper platform for wider solar system exploration.

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.

Fojar38 posted:

china cant even put a robot on the moon that doesnt break in less than a week

X37b shot it with an electromagpulse :colbert:

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
there's also fun poo poo to look forward to, like some extremists who decide humans belong on Earth. They launch a few rocks flying at a few hundred miles per hour in to some debris (there's a fuckton) floating around Earth. Since there's not much to stop it, it would create a domino effect where eventually Earth would be surrounded by bits of metal orbiting us, chewing through anything it touched. It wouldn't just be metal either, a fleck of paint can punch a hole in something if it's flying fast enough. There's some solutions to the problem, but it mostly involves shuttling up a bunch of sand and giving friction a few hundred years to do what it does.

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.

Robo Reagan posted:

There's some solutions to the problem, but it mostly involves shuttling up a bunch of sand and giving friction a few hundred years to do what it does.

Actually I saw one idea fielded that could actually deorbit junk by sweeping it was lasers and exerting radiation pressure on the leading side, decelerating it.

Ain't no fuckin' luddites keepin me on this rock

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

The Protagonist posted:

Actually I saw one idea fielded that could actually deorbit junk by sweeping it was lasers and exerting radiation pressure on the leading side, decelerating it.

Ain't no fuckin' luddites keepin me on this rock

Oh? Last I heard they said that wasn't a very quick way to do it, but I suppose the sand trick isn't all that fast either. The proper solution is to clean that poo poo up before it becomes a problem anyway so look forward to NASA becoming space janitors possibly within our lifetimes

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The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.

Robo Reagan posted:

The proper solution is to clean that poo poo up before it becomes a problem anyway so look forward to NASA becoming space janitors possibly within our lifetimes

A noble profession.

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