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The number of actually significant characters who die isn't that much tbh with you. One principal character dies in the first book, most of the series' reputation comes from that. Otherwise it's usually characters who are important to the political scene but not the focus of their own chapters.
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Harime Nui posted:Otherwise it's usually characters who are important to the political scene but not the focus of their own chapters. but still gotta have lots of characters killed off for no really good reason I prefer a story that advances the plot rather than just eliminates characters I can play video games that do that
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Jun 9, 2014 10:56
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gnarlyhotep posted:but still gotta have lots of characters killed off for no really good reason most of the big character deaths have a big impact in terms of the direction of the plot / other character arcs
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Jun 9, 2014 10:59
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Doctor Spaceman posted:honestly the problem with the books at the moment is there are far too many characters, and the story is bloated to hell sounds like a really badly written story! 
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Jun 9, 2014 11:00
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gnarlyhotep posted:sounds like a really badly written story! yeah, basically. the bloat meant that a bunch of chapters that would have been a good climax got pushed to the next (unpublished) book
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Jun 9, 2014 11:02
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Butthead posted:All books are crap. The best selling book of all time is so bad that TV and movies can't even make it good. They made movie and TV adaptations of Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung? In the West?
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Jun 9, 2014 11:28
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gnarlyhotep posted:sounds like a really badly written story!
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Jun 9, 2014 11:31
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Milky Moor posted:i mean they literally hire porn stars to play their female roles jfc Wait, which ones are porn stars and what are their porn names? This is important.
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Jun 9, 2014 11:49
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The nudity and goriness do seem to be gratuitous, but this is HBO. If the show was made by CBS we wouldn't be presented with that naked backbender at Joffery's wedding, but other major plot points would have to be left out. (see: Ygritte)redshirt posted:The Mountain sort of lives. I like the series, and just love Peter Dinklage, but that whole 'beetle' speech... I would have preferred to meet Lady Stoneheart. I hope she's the big surprise at the end. 
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Jun 9, 2014 13:40
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What's all this stuff about some chick banging a dragon anyway? Hopefully just some goon joke I stumbled into. Right?
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Jun 9, 2014 19:25
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several dragons
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Jun 9, 2014 19:27
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A great character with awesome impact on the plot dies (Dondarrion) so that a character that arguably most readers hate (Bitchybitch Stark) doesn't stay dead. Basically the gurm's writing style = "gently caress you, that's why"
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Jun 9, 2014 19:35
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redshirt posted:Shroud? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin
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Jun 9, 2014 22:05
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I enjoy how modern audiences take every character death and event in stories which don't go the way they want direct trolling intended to harm them because they think writers spend all their time thinking about how much they hate the people who run their lovely fan wiki. People are so navel gazing that all stories are about them. It's beautiful. Puke.
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Miss Areola Canasta posted:The nudity and goriness do seem to be gratuitous, but this is HBO. If the show was made by CBS we wouldn't be presented with that naked backbender at Joffery's wedding, but other major plot points would have to be left out. (see: Ygritte) what "causes" her, btw? i need to know. caint be the white supremacists
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Frostwerks posted:what "causes" her, btw? i need to know. caint be the white supremacists Remember ages ago, The Hound and Arya(?) run into the Brotherhood Without Banners and we learn Beric Dundarion (the dude Ned sent to catch The Mountain way back) got his rear end got killed, but that Red Priest dude (so he's part of the same dudes as the Red Lady who hangs out with Stannis) kept bringing him back to life? Red Priest Dude finds Caitlin Stark's body in the dumpster behind Frey Towers, so there you go.
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its also foreshadowing for when melisandre resurrects jon in the next book or whenever
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I would like to make the case for autoerotic asphyxiation, but first I'm going to need you to spot me.
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Jusupov posted:
that's actually better than what happened in the books so no complaints
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ive never watched an episode of it because of how much people foam over it. similar to breaking bad, ill probably start watching it when its all over
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Fog Tripper posted:A great character with awesome impact on the plot dies (Dondarrion) so that a character that arguably most readers hate (Bitchybitch Stark) doesn't stay dead. beric dondarrion being a zombie actually made me say thats loving stupid outloud
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Jun 10, 2014 13:00
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There's too many zombies these days. Please eliminate 10 of them.
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we was watching the last ep just now and it was just all the dipshits we forgot about in a battle or whatever.
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paranoid randroid posted:beric dondarrion being a zombie actually made me say thats loving stupid outloud he was arguably the most effective good guy in the entire series... as a zombie
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Fog Tripper posted:he was arguably the most effective good guy in the entire series... as a zombie the choice to transfer his undeadedness to bitchface was the ultimate stupidity.
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The Dregs posted:Wait, which ones are porn stars and what are their porn names? This is important. Shae was a german porn star or some poo poo. ironically she refused to be nude in any scenes in game of thrones
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Jun 10, 2014 19:40
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Seems like it's way easier to enjoy the show having not read the books. Every person I've talked to who have read the books just cannot separate the two. "Well see, in the books.." or "That didn't happen in the books" or "There was so much more going on in the books during that scene" and it's like man you guys are insufferable. Why even watch the show if all you're going to do is be disappointed and then wax on about how x,y, and especially z should have been included/changed/raped instead. And most of these people are the ones who saw the first season or two and then decided they were such big fans that they would read the books and now not only can they not enjoy the show but they're all super pissed at the fat man for being so slow in releasing the next book (though they've only been waiting like less than a year)
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Jun 10, 2014 20:34
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Fog Tripper posted:the choice to transfer his undeadedness to bitchface was the ultimate stupidity. i support zombie catylyn starks campaign of brutally owning freys
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WanderingMinstrel I posted:Everyone dies, and grrm thinks that's the same as plot development. He's a poo poo writer and its a poo poo story. see I can tell you've never read it because you're just parroting crap that other people complain about and round and round it goes lol gnarlyhotep posted:I prefer a story that advances the plot rather than just eliminates characters when characters die you can see it coming well it advance 95% of the time and it is fairly organic to the plot development. it's not just 'haha rocks fall, everybody dies' out of nowhere. The only surprising death was Eddard Stark, but even then you could tell he was going to get smacked down hard. Who dies randomly just for shits with no plot advancement happening? Fog Tripper posted:A great character with awesome impact on the plot dies (Dondarrion) so that a character that arguably most readers hate (Bitchybitch Stark) doesn't stay dead. except Dondarrion had like no effect on the plot really, except for some pretty minor Arya stuff. paranoid randroid posted:i support zombie catylyn starks campaign of brutally owning freys yeah that's pretty great Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jun 10, 2014 |
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Jun 10, 2014 20:52
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Moridin920 posted:see I can tell you've never read it because you're just parroting crap that other people complain about and round and round it goes lol I did read it, by book 3 it was full of a bunch of characters that I was hoping would die but for some reason had escaped the axe. I think by that point I even hated Arya.
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Fog Tripper posted:A great character with awesome impact on the plot dies (Dondarrion) so that a character that arguably most readers hate (Bitchybitch Stark) doesn't stay dead. -gasp- nerds hate a well written, rounded female character and prefer stock fantasy drivel like jon snow? well i never besides the only reason nerds hate her is bc she ain't a sex object. also she reminds them of their mothers
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the problem with game of thrones is that there are so many stupid pointless characters to follow and all of them either: have no development whatsoever and remain unlikeable, are pretty unlikeable and gradually become more unlikeable, used to be cool and are now lovely and boring, or are total badasses and die. there's no middle ground, nobody is ever successful so no progress is made on any sort of plot, GRRM is going to write 5 more books without anything exciting happening since the world is about to be buried in snow and all these fuckfaces will starve to death.
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I don't think there's that many characters to follow ya'll are just some bitches
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JesusLovesRonwell posted:A Song of T&A
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this_is_hard posted:Shae was a german porn star or some poo poo. ironically she refused to be nude in any scenes in game of thrones except for those scenes she was nude in
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Jun 10, 2014 22:20
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People who like GoT are most likely the same people who enjoy WoW or any other lovely MMOs.
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Fireless Phoenix posted:-gasp- nerds hate a well written, rounded female character and prefer stock fantasy drivel like jon snow? well i never She's pretty hot in the books, iirc. But everyone hates her in those too because she's a stupid bitch.
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I think it's really funny everybody hates the girly sister who acts like a normal 15 year old and likes the goony one who enjoys killing people.
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Harime Nui posted:I think it's really funny everybody hates the girly sister who acts like a normal 15 year old and likes the goony one who enjoys killing people. also this a mother acting like a mother? a 15 y/o doing the best she can (goons in that situation would curl up into the fetal position and poo poo themselves)? WORST CHARACTERS
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"Ugh there's so many characters. Why don't they all die? Oh one died? Gaaaaawd GERRRM you're such a poo poo writer killing characters. Ugh this woman is a bitch I wish she'd die. Ugh Sansa reminds me of my own weaknesses, what a oval office. Uggggghhhh gay homo dragon. Waaaaahhhhhhhhhhh. This show panders ot me with dragons and boobs and acting. I will pretend I hate boobs, People like things. Faaaaaags." -Nerds
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