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Signed up as Blue Labrador the Lancer! Can't wait for Bombs to start showing up. I'm feeling bullshit Self-Destruct deaths in the near future.
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Daigerus the Chemist, reporting for duty!
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Winter Stormer in on Summoner.
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Aaaand closing the sign-ups for now. They may or may not open back up quickly, but 34 is probably enough for the time being.
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I hope you'll be diligent in keeping records of exactly what each character accomplished, where they started and where they met their inevitable fate. 
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Update 00: Start-To-Save Time, 20 Minutes I cannot recommend enough that if you care about the story at all, you stop reading this and go read through OFS' LP of this game. This really is a very cool and intricate plot (for the first two thirds) and it's a very fun game that just happens to have been played to death and have some rather blatant balance... quirks.  TL;DR, though, it's a fantasy War of the Roses. Rich old white guys waging war over which one of them gets to be the richest old white guy while this rich YOUNG white guy grows up. The narrator talks about a dude named Delita who history says is a hero, and a dude named Ramza who history says is a villain, and then implies that this might not be the whole truth.  I went back and forth on what to name the main character. Ramza would be faithful, and less narcissistic than naming the main character after myself...  But then I realized that with a 14-character maximum, I could just barely fit my whole username. Probably would have used a pun instead if I could think of one.  Used my own birthday, too, because why not. (Also, Capricorn is good for going on the offensive with some of the bosses.)    A 3D PS1 cutscene that probably took dozens if not hundreds of manhours in 1997, summarized in 3 images.   Princess Ovelia. She's kinda important to this whole 'war of succession' business. She's also not super happy about being passed around like a "Get onto the throne free" coupon, but that doesn't come up for a while.  Gaffgarion is a character who could have all his dialogue replaced with "Look how evil I am, I'm going to kick a puppy next chance I get" and very little would change.  Female Knight #3 limps in to warn everyone that bad guys are coming. Everyone rushes outside for the tutorial battle.  There's a tutorial battle.  It's over quickly.   But the battle was a distraction, and Ovelia is being dragged off by Delita, a young man who is implied by the narrator at the start to maybe not be quite as much of an upstanding dude as history makes him out to be. He immediately works to dispel this notion by sucker punching a princess and then kidnapping her.  The original translation for this line is the source of the thread title.  The prologue is now only half over, so I'm gonna skip quickly through the second half.     It's always baffling to me that history seems to be full of rich folks paying people to get really good at killing other people, then being surprised when those people, after not being paid, try to kill them instead.   Lots of talking about what this bodes for the knights-to-be.   Turns out the answer is 'Okay, we're gonna put all the recruits in one place to protect our flank, and really really hope that nobody in charge notices how green you all are. But first, go kill some deserters.'  And with that, the game can be saved. Start-To-Save is an informal measurement of 'how long after I start this game can I save', and thus A) start actually playing, and B) skip all the intro crap next time. FFTactics clocks in at just about twenty minutes, which is actually really good for a Final Fantasy game, to be honest. This piece of trivia brought to you by the fact that I have no idea what else to talk about. Next Update: Some assholes nobody cares about. girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Jun 12, 2014 |
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Was going to work on the update more, then realized I've been putting off actual work. Way too much. Whoops. Looks like Hankosa's gonna be a Geomancer, though.
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drat. I really need to start checking the actual LP forum more often. Missed out on the sign ups. Oh well, looking forward to seeing where this goes.
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This LP is well-timed for me. I recently started playing this game for the first time ever (also Complete v0.50  ). I'm used to Final Fantasy games being insanely easy so this one was kind of a shock and I'm finding it beyond brutal at times. Everyone who knows the game's ins-and-outs tell me that it's brokenly easy once you become familiar with its quirks, so I'm really curious how exactly that is because I can't figure it out for the life of me 
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Orange Fluffy Sheep Breaks the game so far over his knee that..well, you'd just have to read it. I can already tell you that this one, while it will likely be an amazing trainwreck, won't go so far over the top with how you can utterly destroy the game with a bit of preparation. (Yes i know the link was in the OP. Seriously. It's worth reading.) Also, Dancers. I know i'd probably get a lot of disagreement on how gimmicky they can be, but they really can have some hilarious results with their random status effect on all enemies dance. Aishlinn fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Jun 8, 2014 |
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Aw drat, just missed the sign up period. Well I'll be following along since this game was always a favorite of mine. I played the original PS1 version a billion times, doing a bunch of challenges, and the PSP WotL version once (slowdown on my Vita is brutal and the new special characters just break the game even more). Permadeath and the different translation (already miss "blame yourself or God" and "l.i.t.t.l.e...m.o.n.e.y.") should be fun!
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I wanna say thanks for this LP being a 'Spell everything out for the very thick' type of narrative. I'm terrible at noticing subtleties so this is right up my alley.
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So. I've been kinda wondering this for awhile, but given how broke the original FFT was and that someone can crack and change it to be more balanced, is it still hard to use the FFT engine, "fixed" or not, to just make an entirely new game? Admittedly, it would be scads harder to do with a PS1 game than make some sort of Zelda or Mario hack, but I've been curious if any fans have thought to actually do this especially since the Advance Tactics games have gone off in their own direction.
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TKMobile posted:I've been kinda wondering this for awhile, but given how broke the original FFT was and that someone can crack and change it to be more balanced, is it still hard to use the FFT engine, "fixed" or not, to just make an entirely new game? Admittedly, it would be scads harder to do with a PS1 game than make some sort of Zelda or Mario hack, but I've been curious if any fans have thought to actually do this especially since the Advance Tactics games have gone off in their own direction.
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Update 01: This Update Ends With Me Trying To Sing A Jock Jams Song Via Text As will often be the case, the save point is immediately followed by the mission intro. If you don't know what you're doing, or accidentally proceed with the plot while all your guys are naked, or whatever, you can kind of end up painting yourself into a corner. Two bosses in particular are notorious for ending runs of single-file savers who don't know they're coming.  OFS did plenty of talking about game mechanics, and I'm operating mostly under the assumption that all my readers already know the game well (or at least his LP), so instead I'll be breaking up the screenshots with tactical decisions, challenge run trivia, personal comments, and other nonsense that generally has no business taking up main update space.    There isn't really much to TL;DR on this scene. Some nameless bandits/deserters/inexplicable Cockney accents are fleeing and attack pretty much immediately.  As the first "real" mission, this fight is pretty toothless. With tall terrain on both sides, and shallow water in the middle, the most irritating foe on this map is actually the camera, and it can sometimes take several adjustments to get a proper view of what you're trying to accomplish. The water can lead to a reckless first-time player getting boxed in and whacked about if they rush forward without thinking, but even then you've still got an AI companion in Delita to bail you out.  Left to his own devices, Delita will beeline for the nearest enemy and whack him or her, often stealing a kill (and valuable experience) from one of your own units. If you know at all what you're doing, he's kind of more trouble than he's worth right now. The only real exception is solo Ramza runs, where you have neither force to bring to bear, nor access to any kind of healing. Even then, it's more 'don't be stupid and pick them off individually' than 'actual challenge'.  I whack him because A) guests can't actually die, B) he's a killstealing son of a taint, and C) I have reasons for wanting to leave certain enemies alive.  With Delita out of the way and no real reason (or way) to be cautious, the fight proceeds pretty quickly.    Poor Rolfe here is technically the first casualty of the LP, but since none of these guys will still be around by the end of the update, I'm not too torn up about it.  Uninterrupted by Delita, I can take down the Squires one by one and give myself/Ramza the killing blow once or twice for the extra bit of XP.   I end up using a couple potions just to make sure I have enough guys to accomplish the thing I want to.   One Chemist in particular proceed to be rather persistent in undoing my damage, but I have to keep him alive for the time being, so I tolerate it.  Eventually, dudes start dying off and crystalizing. The ability crystals I don't care so much about as there's only some very basic Squire and Chemist skills at stake here, and Ramza's going to be getting bleedover XP out the rear end in those classes.  What is important, on the other hand, are the cheap equipment items they drop from chests if they don't become a crystal. Everything they drop, I've got at least as good of, but for what I want to do after this battle, I wanna grab all the money I can.   Once that point is reached, a bit of very basic AI manipulation gets me the last Chemist trapped in a corner, where he can weaponlessly flail at a couple of my dudes while I wait for the last of the items to drop.  Total profit: 1 Clothes, 1 Dagger, 1 Potion skill for Ramza, 1 completely useless HP/MP refill for the same. Totally worth the extra ten minutes it took to make all that happen.    Chemist doesn't live long after that.  Ramza, a pampered son of one of the most respected noble families in recent history, doesn't understand why anyone would turn to a life of crime. Why not just stop being poor?    Spoils: 2500 Gil, a fancy knife, and a couple items I failed to get in that last screen cap but was too lazy to go back to get again.  That out of the way, we're booted to the world map, where proceeding even one spot forward will trigger another plot battle. Before that happens, I have some... downsizing to do.   Like my predecessor before me, I sell some high-cost low-utility items for an extra bit of scratch, as well as the equipment I strip off my generic units before booting them out the door. Unlike OFS, I also sell all my Phoenix Downs. Total, I walk away with right around 8500 gil. This is enough to do what I'm trying to do with room to spare.  And that means it's time to get some new allies.   The first is a young man who's as brave as can be, and who thus will be very good at Fisting things some day soon. His name is Fister Roboto.   Ice Mallet picks up the role of our first female Chemist, who will probably make for a very good White Mage except for that I've been basically ignoring zodiac signs, and later realize she has poor compatibility with Ramza and some of the others. Whoops. Too late now!   A Cancer upon the forums, EvilUrchin is a brave and godless man who dreams of one day being the first human to enter the mesosphere without aid of a catapult.   Orcs+Ostriches will be spending a lot of time in dresses on his path to becoming a bard.  KalonZombie rounds out the pack as another Monk-to-be, and has the distinction of being the first submitter to request a cross-job ability. The request is summarily rejected.  Proper jobs are granted, equipment is bought and given, Delita is stripped as well, and I reluctantly realize what having to pass up JP Boost for my generics will mean for the speed my units will reach high-tier classes. (Spoiler: Significantly slower.) Instead, all three Squires and Ramza are granted Stone for that little bit of extra JP opportunity. The Chemists get Potion and nothing else. I realize I forgot to buy any.  Ramza's Squire class being special, I have less qualms about giving him JP Boost for a while. Though he also has the capability to become a Knight or Archer, there's no equipment for it. I spend another few minutes dicking around in the class screen, but the base of the work has been done, and we're basically ready to move on to the game proper. Ladies and gentlegoons, please put your hands together for the opening lineup!  Banuh-nuh nuh-nuh NUH NUH  Na nuh-nuh nuh-nuh NUH NUH  Y'all ready for this?  Nuh nuh nuh na-nah nah na-nah na-nah  Nah nah na-nan-ah NAHNAH  Buh tuh tuh-tuh-tuh-tuh-tuh TUH TUH  YEAH Next Update: Mandalia Plains. Someone is fairly likely to die. girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 11:35 on Jun 12, 2014 |
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You let Rolf die you bastard.
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A Capricorn Ramza with two worst compat males and a bad compat female, the only saving grace being those Cancers have good compat with the Scorpio. You're deliberately trying to give some people an aneurism, aren't you? Corvinus fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Jun 12, 2014 |
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There's a bunch of mods out there - rebalance, "sequels", complete story rewrites, etc. There's even mods of the PSP version where all they do is patch out the animation delay and/or replace the dialogue with the original. I haven't played any of them except FFT 1.3, so proceed with caution: http://ffhacktics.com/ is the general modding community and is, as far as I can tell, still fairly active.
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Micro-Update 01 I unforgot. Chances of death: Slightly less likely.
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I pretty much know the answer to the question already, but i'll ask anyway. If you get to the point where poaching becomes viable, what's your rules on the Chantagne? And more to that point, how about reraise? would the white mage having the mp to cast it count as a 1 time cheat death, or is it's use just banned right off? Edit edit: V Figured, but just wanted to make sure. Aishlinn fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Jun 12, 2014 |
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Aishlinn posted:I pretty much know the answer to the question already, but i'll ask anyway. If you get to the point where poaching becomes viable, what's your rules on the Chantagne? Gologle posted:You let Rolf die you bastard. Corvinus posted:A Capricorn Ramza with two worst compat males and a bad compat female, the only saving grace being those Cancers have good compat with the Scorpio.
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Somehow I get the feeling this is going to be a big goony sausage party.
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Just use JP up don't make yourself go insane.
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It might be interesting to stick Reraise on Ramza. It'll mean you literally can't lose (I think), but save-reload means that anyway. The benefit will be that if a battle goes to hell you'll really be stuck with the consequences.
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:Just use JP up don't make yourself go insane. I was gonna say, there's a difference between challenges and self hate. 
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I guess it does just save some grinding. Alright, sure. JP Up is the exception.
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PS I requested to be a Monk/Knight for pure early-game fuckery, but then Poison Mushroom said I couldn't be both, so I went with pure monk, because even a pure monk is pretty useful until the start of Act 2.
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So, a slightly interesting tidbit that may or may not have been covered in the OFS thread: Generics you hire in the "Warrior's Guild" (I have to get used to these WotL names) have their Brave and Faith values randomly rolled between, I believe, 40 and 70. However, random units you encounter in battles, and the generics you start with, seem to have a +4 added to their Brave/Faith values. So you'll somewhat frequently see your starting generics have 71-74 ratings, while you'll never get anything that good from the recruitment center. That can actually be a pretty substantial difference in challenge runs, so some people may do a lot of resetting at the first battle until they get a good set of starters.
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Spoiler while I work on the update: Somebody died! Edit Someone get this thread to Page 3 so I don't drop 3 updates on the same page. girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jun 13, 2014 |
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I love this game! Though I don't think I was ever good enough to play it without anyone dieing, even the not dead yet kind of dieing.
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This is a challenge I have tried, and failed myself. I look forward to you embarrassing me.
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Luquos posted:This is a challenge I have tried, and failed myself. I look forward to you embarrassing me.
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Poison Mushroom posted:Spoiler while I work on the update: I was going to start a death betting pool, but then I accidentally looked at the roster spreadsheet and spoiled myself.  The signup spreadsheet includes death spoilers!
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:Apparently you aren't familiar with the OP's previous LPs. You better not be talking poo poo about Chocolate Secret  God drat it I suck at this game. I just attempted Deep Dungeon for the first time and I really need to prepare better 
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Someday EvilUrchin will soar to the heavens, provided that something unlikely such as some lady who is far too slow in obtaining his tea decides to be all OCD and check the life support systems too much. Or he is murdered horribly by bandits, one of the two.
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Placing a bet that 20 people will be dead before chapter 2. Also, I'd like to ask a question: Would it be alright if people signup with different preferences, depending on whether their bravery or faith starts higher?
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Schwartzcough posted:I was going to start a death betting pool, but then I accidentally looked at the roster spreadsheet and spoiled myself. Haha, I know who died. Take me on as a replacement. Make me a permanent Squire, as befitting my lack of any skills. I am looking forward to seeing droves of goons tossed into a meat grinder in this LP.
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