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brick cow
Oct 22, 2008
My good sister went to india in febuary and claims she didn't get raped. But she's all new age and spent a month in compound of spiritual leaders so she might have been sheltered.

She did say there were frogs in the toilets and monkeys stole peoples cigarettes so if you smoke or poop you should keep that in mind.

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The Bible
May 8, 2010

I know people keep expressing concern over how we view India on this forum, but I just have a really hard time looking past all the gang-rape to see the beautiful and mysterious aspects of that country.

Shirley Crabtree
Aug 8, 2012
Can an American goon please explain why exactly reported rapes are so high in the US compared to India? Is it the culture or something? Are Indian men just more respectful to women in general? Tia.

GlennFinito
Oct 15, 2013

Gypsum Fantastic posted:

Can an American goon please explain why exactly reported rapes are so high in the US compared to India? Is it the culture or something? Are Indian men just more respectful to women in general? Tia.

I'll spring your trap and propose that India has a very narrow definition of rape.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Gypsum Fantastic posted:

Can an American goon please explain why exactly reported rapes are so high in the US compared to India? Is it the culture or something? Are Indian men just more respectful to women in general? Tia.

if you report a rape to the cops in the us they will at least write it down and keep an eye out for the guy whereas if you report a rape in india the cops will rape you because it proves you are an easy target

that drives down the number of people who report rapes hth

Shirley Crabtree
Aug 8, 2012

GlennFinito posted:

I'll spring your trap and propose that India has a very narrow definition of rape.

But its as I said before even if 9/10 rapes in India are unreported Ametica has more. And that's assuming all rapes in the US are actually reported. I wonder if you have something to back this up other than your own personal opinion?

Cucking Mama
Sep 27, 2013

Gold Medalist, 2014 shit post olympics
you're a human being gypsum fantastic

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Gypsum Fantastic posted:

Please elaborate, are you saying rapes in America are not something to be concerned about? Even if hypothetically ten times more rapes in India go unreported, the US is still higher. Kinda puts me off wanting to ever visit such a rapey country! gently caress that I'd rather go to India.

I don't think those Indian statistics are very accurate :ssh:

Shirley Crabtree
Aug 8, 2012

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

I don't think those Indian statistics are very accurate :ssh:

Well then, I guess they're not simply because you said so.

brick cow
Oct 22, 2008

Gypsum Fantastic posted:

Can an American goon please explain why exactly reported rapes are so high in the US compared to India? Is it the culture or something? Are Indian men just more respectful to women in general? Tia.

I suspect you're trolling but I'll give a real answer.

In America woman have been able to vote for 100 years, they hold political office, some people take them seriously. there is gender inequality but it's looked on as being distasteful by most americans.

In India the infrastructure is so horrible that people dig holes and then charge other people to poo poo in these holes. Women are banned from making GBS threads in these holes and have to resort to making GBS threads in alleys. When that sort of discrimination happens against your gender reporting rape isn't even a thing you consider.

If you're not a troll, you're a loving retard imho.

Cucking Mama
Sep 27, 2013

Gold Medalist, 2014 shit post olympics
you're a human being brickcow

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Gypsum Fantastic posted:

Well then, I guess they're not simply because you said so.

well you're english so I don't expect you to understand anything besides inbreeding

Cucking Mama
Sep 27, 2013

Gold Medalist, 2014 shit post olympics
I have to go to school in england and I've been depressed about it for like a week

brick cow
Oct 22, 2008

Cucking Mama posted:

you're a human being brickcow

I only have sex with men on days that end with "y"

Shirley Crabtree
Aug 8, 2012
Im actually not trolling I just have a hard time getting my head around why American rape statistics are irrelevant when they're way worse than the country youre mocking for it. And yeah i get the whole argument that many are unreported... but more than ten times more are unreported? I have a hard time believing that based on anything more than just 'cos I said so'. Rape is bad wherever it happens I just think the US needs to focus on getting its own poo poo straight first. Thanks for listening, take care of yourself... and each other.

GlennFinito
Oct 15, 2013

Gypsum Fantastic posted:

But its as I said before even if 9/10 rapes in India are unreported Ametica has more. And that's assuming all rapes in the US are actually reported. I wonder if you have something to back this up other than your own personal opinion?

Well, for example, if rape was determined to be the appropiate punishment for a woman by the local community. It woulnd't be registered as a crime, would it?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-30/gang-rape-reveals-vigilante-india-where-village-leaders-are-law.html

goku im piss
Mar 18, 2005

Your mama was a snowblower

Gypsum Fantastic posted:

Im actually not trolling I just have a hard time getting my head around why American rape statistics are irrelevant when they're way worse than the country youre mocking for it. And yeah i get the whole argument that many are unreported... but more than ten times more are unreported? I have a hard time believing that based on anything more than just 'cos I said so'. Rape is bad wherever it happens I just think the US needs to focus on getting its own poo poo straight first. Thanks for listening, take care of yourself... and each other.

LOL at this mostly because the UK is only 5 points behind the USA

hurry and catch the gently caress up

brick cow
Oct 22, 2008

Gypsum Fantastic posted:

Im actually not trolling I just have a hard time getting my head around why American rape statistics are irrelevant when they're way worse than the country youre mocking for it. And yeah i get the whole argument that many are unreported... but more than ten times more are unreported? I have a hard time believing that based on anything more than just 'cos I said so'. Rape is bad wherever it happens I just think the US needs to focus on getting its own poo poo straight first. Thanks for listening, take care of yourself... and each other.

Oh gently caress, you're being pleasant and agreeable. I hate that. I'll serious post.

In my opinion I think the percentage of one on one rapes and rapes of violence/aggression are probably statistically the same everywhere. There's just a percentage of people who think they deserve what they want or really want to hate gently caress someone and will take it any way possible.

The difference between India and first world countries is that gang rape is a culturally supported idea. It's not that there is more rape anywhere. It's that there's an underlying idea in Indian culture that gang rape is a fitting punishment for some indiscretion. And rape in general doesn't get reported because of this cultural acceptance.


I actually like you, gyp fan, keep posting.

(look at me all postig in gbs with full sentinces an spellin and gramer)

Cucking Mama
Sep 27, 2013

Gold Medalist, 2014 shit post olympics
yeah I see you. human being

Lonely Virgil
Oct 9, 2012

India has a wonderful culture, I visit there last year for a week. I only got grouped like 5 times and flashed twice. It' a wonderful, kind country towards women, you guys are just racist.

Shirley Crabtree
Aug 8, 2012

Cucking Mama posted:

I have to go to school in england and I've been depressed about it for like a week

Please be sure to share your usual views about our fine country with everyone you meet I guarantee you won't get your head kicked in, we love it when Americans do that.

Cucking Mama
Sep 27, 2013

Gold Medalist, 2014 shit post olympics
I find it hard to believe that a british nationalist could best me in combat, single or otherwise

brick cow
Oct 22, 2008

Lonely Virgil posted:

India has a wonderful culture, I visit there last year for a week. I only got grouped like 5 times and flashed twice. It' a wonderful, kind country towards women, you guys are just racist.

Flashed by women or men? this is important.

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Gypsum Fantastic posted:

Im actually not trolling I just have a hard time getting my head around why American rape statistics are irrelevant when they're way worse than the country youre mocking for it. And yeah i get the whole argument that many are unreported... but more than ten times more are unreported? I have a hard time believing that based on anything more than just 'cos I said so'. Rape is bad wherever it happens I just think the US needs to focus on getting its own poo poo straight first. Thanks for listening, take care of yourself... and each other.

With your faith in statistics that 'look about right' to your untrained eye, do you also believe that earthquakes are becoming exponentially more common? Your scepticism that sexism could reduce the number of reports so much is equally a case of 'cos I said so'.

Also, it turns out both the US and India can both work on not being terrible hellholes at the same time! And as I'm not responsible for the aggregate behaviour of my entire country, I don't see why I can't criticise other nations for problems I haven't yet singlehandedly solved.

Cucking Mama
Sep 27, 2013

Gold Medalist, 2014 shit post olympics
that dude has a big old boner for his homeland (britain lol)

Lonely Virgil
Oct 9, 2012

brick cow posted:

Flashed by women or men? this is important.

By men while screaming at me that I was a 'white whore', or at least that what my guide told me.

Beautiful country, beautiful people.

Shirley Crabtree
Aug 8, 2012

brick cow posted:

Oh gently caress, you're being pleasant and agreeable. I hate that. I'll serious post.

In my opinion I think the percentage of one on one rapes and rapes of violence/aggression are probably statistically the same everywhere. There's just a percentage of people who think they deserve what they want or really want to hate gently caress someone and will take it any way possible.

The difference between India and first world countries is that gang rape is a culturally supported idea. It's not that there is more rape anywhere. It's that there's an underlying idea in Indian culture that gang rape is a fitting punishment for some indiscretion. And rape in general doesn't get reported because of this cultural acceptance.


I actually like you, gyp fan, keep posting.

(look at me all postig in gbs with full sentinces an spellin and gramer)

However I do wonder if, for example, similar punishments might be carried out in the US by some gangs? India has had the spotlight on it lately because of certain undeniably horrific cases and ever since its made for easy news to just publicise it whenever it happens but I'm pretty sure gang rapes happen everywhere. The statistic of reported rapes in the US is alarming and, similarly to India, rape and rapists are openly despised. Case studies alone will not convince me because you dont have to look far to see horrific examples in the US or anywhere else either.

I like you too and I'm down for a non rapey kiss and a cuddle if you are.

TheIllestVillain
Dec 27, 2011

Sal, Wyoming's not a country
is it true that indians smell bad all the time

Cucking Mama
Sep 27, 2013

Gold Medalist, 2014 shit post olympics
yeah my dad went there and he's a pretty big rube for the indian is so spiritual poo poo but he said it stank

fuck off Batman
Oct 14, 2013

Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah!


Gypsum Fantastic posted:

But its as I said before even if 9/10 rapes in India are unreported Ametica has more. And that's assuming all rapes in the US are actually reported. I wonder if you have something to back this up other than your own personal opinion?

What if the number of unreported rape in India is 99/100? In a highly corrupted culture, it could very well be.

Lonely Virgil
Oct 9, 2012

Gypsum Fantastic posted:

However I do wonder if, for example, similar punishments might be carried out in the US by some gangs? India has had the spotlight on it lately because of certain undeniably horrific cases and ever since its made for easy news to just publicise it whenever it happens but I'm pretty sure gang rapes happen everywhere. The statistic of reported rapes in the US is alarming and, similarly to India, rape and rapists are openly despised. Case studies alone will not convince me because you dont have to look far to see horrific examples in the US or anywhere else either.

I like you too and I'm down for a non rapey kiss and a cuddle if you are.

i agree. gang rape happen all the time on subways here. It's kind of like feeding frenzy every rush hours. We tolerate it because it's just another part of urban culture. i guess.

Ivor Biggun
Apr 30, 2003

A big "Fuck You!" from the Keyhole nebula

Lipstick Apathy

Gypsum Fantastic posted:

Please elaborate, are you saying rapes in America are not something to be concerned about? Even if hypothetically ten times more rapes in India go unreported, the US is still higher. Kinda puts me off wanting to ever visit such a rapey country! gently caress that I'd rather go to India.

Gypsum Fantastic posted:

But its as I said before even if 9/10 rapes in India are unreported Ametica has more. And that's assuming all rapes in the US are actually reported. I wonder if you have something to back this up other than your own personal opinion?

Gypsum Fantastic posted:

Im actually not trolling I just have a hard time getting my head around why American rape statistics are irrelevant when they're way worse than the country youre mocking for it. And yeah i get the whole argument that many are unreported... but more than ten times more are unreported? I have a hard time believing that based on anything more than just 'cos I said so'. Rape is bad wherever it happens I just think the US needs to focus on getting its own poo poo straight first. Thanks for listening, take care of yourself... and each other.


9/10 posters think you're an idiot, the other one was too busy raping to comment.

brick cow
Oct 22, 2008

TheIllestVillain posted:

is it true that indians smell bad all the time

Yes. When I was in college the only Indians in town owned a gas station/restaurant and it smelled like poo poo all the time but the food was fantastic.


Gypsum Fantastic posted:

However I do wonder if, for example, similar punishments might be carried out in the US by some gangs? India has had the spotlight on it lately because of certain undeniably horrific cases and ever since its made for easy news to just publicise it whenever it happens but I'm pretty sure gang rapes happen everywhere. The statistic of reported rapes in the US is alarming and, similarly to India, rape and rapists are openly despised. Case studies alone will not convince me because you dont have to look far to see horrific examples in the US or anywhere else either.

I like you too and I'm down for a non rapey kiss and a cuddle if you are.

There are gangs that do it here. There gangs that do it where you are. There are gangs that do it on trains. There are gangs that do it in green eggs and ham. But BUT it's not culturally acceptable here or in your blimey country. There is however a cultural memory in India that says this is how we shame women into learning their place.

In the poast twenty years or so the internet has allowed humans (loving poo poo i hate serious posting) to look at one and other and really see what is going on. We have been able to distill what is human tendencies and what is beyound the norm. Raping a girl because you can't have her or hate her is literally programmed into some people. It's not right or fair and should be punished but it happens over and over. We can and should hate it but it will happen.

Gang rapes are completely a cultural thing; whether its the culture of india or the culture of a street gang in Albuquerque. It's not natural.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004
Blow Job Party = Best Party

Beef Turret
Jul 9, 2009

by Lowtax

Gypsum Fantastic posted:

Reported rapes per 100,000 people in India in 2012: 2.0

Same statistic for the US: 28.6

Most Indians male and female despise rape and hate the reputation recent high profile cases have given their country, but I wonder if it might be better if America should take a look at itself before pointing fingers at all the brown countries?

americans blow a gasket when people tell them this, because they are owned

Beef Turret
Jul 9, 2009

by Lowtax

Lonely Virgil posted:

i agree. gang rape happen all the time on subways here. It's kind of like feeding frenzy every rush hours. We tolerate it because it's just another part of urban culture. i guess.

the more news worthy a rape is, the more important and rapey it is, i agree

Crewmine
Apr 26, 2012

Cucking Mama posted:

I find it hard to believe that a british nationalist could best me in combat, single or otherwise

London bridge 10pm, bring your best horse + a lance

Lonely Virgil
Oct 9, 2012

butplug accident posted:

the more news worthy a rape is, the more important and rapey it is, i agree

quality over quantity.

Shirley Crabtree
Aug 8, 2012

brick cow posted:

Yes. When I was in college the only Indians in town owned a gas station/restaurant and it smelled like poo poo all the time but the food was fantastic.


There are gangs that do it here. There gangs that do it where you are. There are gangs that do it on trains. There are gangs that do it in green eggs and ham. But BUT it's not culturally acceptable here or in your blimey country. There is however a cultural memory in India that says this is how we shame women into learning their place.

In the poast twenty years or so the internet has allowed humans (loving poo poo i hate serious posting) to look at one and other and really see what is going on. We have been able to distill what is human tendencies and what is beyound the norm. Raping a girl because you can't have her or hate her is literally programmed into some people. It's not right or fair and should be punished but it happens over and over. We can and should hate it but it will happen.

Gang rapes are completely a cultural thing; whether its the culture of india or the culture of a street gang in Albuquerque. It's not natural.

At the risk of playing the devils avocado if it were culturally acceptable everywhere in India to commit rapes wouldn't the statistic be higher than it is in America and not ten times less? Is it not conceivable that the majority of Indians are actually opposed to rape and that this is why the figure is so low? Instead it would imply that it is actually more culturally acceptable in America to do it? Whether thats college jocks who date rape, or gangs who punish girls for associating with different gangs, is it not possible that there are more 'cultures' in America that tolerate it hence the undeniably higher rates of sexual assault?

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Lonely Virgil
Oct 9, 2012

Gypsum Fantastic posted:

At the risk of playing the devils avocado if it were culturally acceptable everywhere in India to commit rapes wouldn't the statistic be higher than it is in America and not ten times less? Is it not conceivable that the majority of Indians are actually opposed to rape and that this is why the figure is so low? Instead it would imply that it is actually more culturally acceptable in America to do it? Whether thats college jocks who date rape, or gangs who punish girls for associating with different gangs, is it not possible that there are more 'cultures' in America that tolerate it hence the undeniably higher rates of sexual assault?

http://bit.ly/1lkhZwp

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