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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:Ace Combat 04 will be a spectacular introduction to the series, and by the time you finish 5, you'll be pacing in front of the mailbox waiting for Zero to arrive. You're in for quite a ride, and I'm a little jealous that I can't play them all again for the first time.
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gyger posted:The only way it could get more arcadey if it was in an arcade cabinet, and it is: http://acecombat.wikia.com/wiki/Mach_Storm I actually played this this past weekend, and if I knew the Aigaion was actually one of the Boss Encounters, I'd have chosen the stage it was in, difficulty be damned. Moby Dick must always be taken down, and especially when you don't need to worry about those idiots hitting the cockpit early. God drat those people.  Skwerl posted:Early stage of a piece I am working on... I shall name it. stupidnewbies.jpg ...so appropriate.
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Jun 11, 2014 23:15
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Skwerl posted:Early stage of a piece I am working on... I shall name it. stupidnewbies.jpg Needs more IdolM@ster or garishly coloured planes. 
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Jun 11, 2014 23:23
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Added and added. You guys are the best. I'll be on in a couple hours once the daily challenges reset.
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Jun 11, 2014 23:25
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@General Fai I don't take commission these days thanks to grad school  Cooked Auto posted:Needs more IdolM@ster or garishly coloured planes.
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Jun 12, 2014 02:45
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Okay folks, I'm in as CronoMagnum I unlocked one of the challenge jets today! The one for getting kills in Data Link mode? I'm really loving this game when it decides to let me connect to a room. When it doesn't I like it very slightly less. Playing Ace Combat 4 and holy poo poo is the story kind of bleak. I'm on mission 4 or so I think? I really like the way it's written. Also I get to shoot silly amounts of missiles at people and watch them blow up! Its kind of strange to go back to a game like Ace Combat 4 and realize it was released a decade ago. I still think it holds up really drat well.
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Jun 12, 2014 03:03
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Crono S. Magnum posted:Okay folks, I'm in as CronoMagnum If you like where the story is going I think you will love the conclusion.
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Jun 12, 2014 03:45
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So not exaggerating more then half time half way into a mission ill get disconnected from the host, is it the netcode or people just getting mad and pulling the plug on their end? I assume that the matchmaking is p2p right?
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Jun 12, 2014 03:55
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In as Chortles141, what should I choose if my current options are to upgrade the F-16C or F-4G, or buy the Mirage 2000-5, Su-25TM, or F-14A? I'm sitting at almost 90k credits.
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Jun 12, 2014 04:12
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Chortles posted:In as Chortles141, what should I choose if my current options are to upgrade the F-16C or F-4G, or buy the Mirage 2000-5, Su-25TM, or F-14A? I'm sitting at almost 90k credits. depends on your flying style......what plane type/play style is your favorite?
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Jun 12, 2014 04:19
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At this rate, whatever'll let me S-rank fastest; my only successful Moby Dick sortie was a B. I like ground-pounding, but I'm already working my way through the challenges for the Morgan and the F-16 DR, and I'd definitely like to be able to actively take on the emergency target fighters instead of having to constantly evade their missiles while looking for remaining ground targets... in the F-4G I already find it hard enough to take on even the regular fighters.
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Jun 12, 2014 04:33
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The Mirage 2000-5 is kind of crappy because I've got mine at level 3 and it still often needs an extra missile to kill a target that I wouldn't need if I was flying an attacker or fighter, depending on what I'm shooting at. The F-14A is pretty good though, it's got nice damage and unless you go straight for the F-15C, it's going to be the fastest plane you can fly for a good while. The SU-25TM is okay, but on the slow side, so it's kind of a sidegrade from the F-4G at first, since the F-4G is really fast for an attacker, but the SU-25TM gets 4AGMs which you might get a lot of use out of. It also leads to the SU-24M which is a good plane that I like a lot for ground attack. To be honest though while there is a very obviously increasing level of power in planes as you progress, I think once you get most planes to level 2 or 3, they're good enough that you can fly whatever looks cool and stay competitive.
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Jun 12, 2014 04:34
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Save for upgrading the DR or for buying the F-18. The DR has been my mainstay since I got it, and I don't plan on giving it up until I can afford the F-15E. Also, remember that S-Ranking is as much a function of the rest of your team as you. Even if you have a legendary 65k game, if the rest of your team is scoring 8k you're doomed.
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Jun 12, 2014 04:35
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I got my second Moby Dick III tonight. Almost 40k credits off an A rank (let me pick up these stragglers dammit!). Would've been 60k but I grinded too close to Aigaion a couple times. I seriously want to know how much you'd get off a MD3 with elite contract + forced sorties. E: DR's a solid mid-range multirole. I just got to lvl 4 with it, can't wait to try out the SODs. iastudent fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Jun 12, 2014 |
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Jun 12, 2014 04:36
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Chortles posted:At this rate, whatever'll let me S-rank fastest; my only successful Moby Dick sortie was a B. I like ground-pounding, but I'm already working my way through the challenges for the Morgan and the F-16 DR, and I'd definitely like to be able to actively take on the emergency target fighters instead of having to constantly evade their missiles while looking for remaining ground targets... in the F-4G I already find it hard enough to take on even the regular fighters. if you like flexibility...... go for mirage-->F-18-->A-10-->F-15E-->rafale path F-15E, from my friend who flies an upgraded version says that thing is ridiculously fast, which is pretty important in high level play.
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Jun 12, 2014 04:44
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For me it doesn't help that the F-16C's 4AAMs are clearly not effective at taking the emergency targets and the only value I've found in them has been hitting engines during Moby Dick sorties. At least the Mirage 2000-5 is cheap compared to the F-14A (most of my credits) or the Su-25TM (two thirds thereof)... I'm gonna try and grind out the DR and see what my progress looks like, since the research is complete on all three airframes that I could buy have yet to buy. Any goon room going ATM? Chortles fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Jun 12, 2014 |
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Jun 12, 2014 05:13
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Chortles posted:For me it doesn't help that the F-16C's 4AAMs are clearly not effective at taking the emergency targets and the only value I've found in them has been hitting engines during Moby Dick sorties. At least the Mirage 2000-5 is cheap compared to the F-14A (most of my credits) or the Su-25TM (two thirds thereof)... I'm gonna try and grind out the DR and see what my progress looks like, since the research is complete on all three airframes that I could buy have yet to buy. be specific with your plane purchase. The upgrade tree pretty much upgrades everything thats available (randomly) so by being specific, you funnel down what upgrade you'd want to get. (this will only get worse after you reach 1st LT. since that's when weapon research gets unlocked)
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Jun 12, 2014 05:49
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Skwerl posted:F-15E, from my friend who flies an upgraded version says that thing is ridiculously fast, which is pretty important in high level play. Good to know, I'm working my way up to that now. Only issue I see is I like the 4AGMs but both it and the A-10 I have to buy to get to it don't get that until level 7. Oh well. FAEBs and 30mm cannon sound like a lot of fun along the way.
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Jun 12, 2014 06:00
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Skwerl posted:be specific with your plane purchase. The upgrade tree pretty much upgrades everything thats available (randomly) so by being specific, you funnel down what upgrade you'd want to get.
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Jun 12, 2014 06:23
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The multiplayer on this is pretty fun. Especially killstealing high-value targets from players who've played a hundred times as much as I have. My first Aigaion mission I paid no attention to the time limit at all and wasted the entire mission trying to kill the escort cruisers. Whoops.  On the other hand I doubt we would have won even if I'd done it right since I still ended up with like the third highest score.
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Jun 12, 2014 06:55
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Should I focus on leveling up my stock F14 or the F14 -ZP-? Statwise the ZP is significantly superior in every category, and it looks cooler, so it's become my standard fighter, but I'm afraid I might be loving up somehow by relying on it.
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Jun 12, 2014 07:10
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I'm happy now. Three or so times now I was thinking of posting a long-winded rant on why I don't like the Mirage as much as some of my other craft but how I feel like I have no choice but to fly it because of how 90% of the targets in any given mission are ground targets, most of which take more punishment than AA guns or SAMs. Turns out my level 3 F-15C deals a little bit more ground damage than the level 4 Mirage. Just flew it twice in a row and consistently scored just as much as I would have with the Mirage and its 4AGMs (literally my first F-15C outing tonight I got near exactly as many points as I did five minutes prior with said Mirage). Finally changed my nickname from "Mercenary" thanks to this, I'm now an "Eagle Driver". Also saw a guy on my team one round get MVP by a very wide margin with the Strike Eagle - I definitely need that poo poo. Sammus posted:Should I focus on leveling up my stock F14 or the F14 -ZP-? Statwise the ZP is significantly superior in every category, and it looks cooler, so it's become my standard fighter, but I'm afraid I might be loving up somehow by relying on it. The only problem I see is the starting SP weapon for the Zipang F-14 isn't as useful as the one for the stock version. Whereas normal F-14 can launch fast-moving missiles at much longer range than standard missiles, Zipang gets... basically a second set of standard missiles, from what little I've used of them. I can see how that could be useful too but with how short-ranged they've always been you really want something better.
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PSN ID: Cat_Hatter I started two days ago and I'm trying as hard as I can to talk myself out of buying the campaign but I don't think I'll last the day.
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Jun 12, 2014 09:00
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Kadorhal posted:Good to know, I'm working my way up to that now. Only issue I see is I like the 4AGMs but both it and the A-10 I have to buy to get to it don't get that until level 7. FAEB's will net you tons of kills if used correctly. They hit large clusters of targets and one shot all but the hardened ones. Good tip is to nose up, afterburn and use the right stick so you can see where its going. You can usually destroy a couple easy groups before anyone else is in missile range. I love the a-10. Best map for it might be the alps though. That's a very ground-heavy mission.
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Jun 12, 2014 12:40
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Finally got my F-14A to level 6. Only took an extra 330k credits. 
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Enjoy those prices while you can, once you hit Captain level equipment it gets ridiculous. Over 600k to take the T-50 to level 6.  And apparently level 10 is over 1.25 million.(Also, iastudent, you keep sending me invites after I've turned in for the night.  )
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Jun 12, 2014 14:40
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Those prices seem ridiculous when I'm getting like 3-5k per mission early on. How much do you get for winning one of the Moby Dick missions?
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Jun 12, 2014 16:28
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Sindai posted:Those prices seem ridiculous when I'm getting like 3-5k per mission early on. How much do you get for winning one of the Moby Dick missions? With a contract activated a S rank will get you 65k
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S-Alpha posted:(Also, iastudent, you keep sending me invites after I've turned in for the night. People keep sending me invites when I'm not even on. I'm not the only person in my house who uses the PS3, so if it doesn't say I'm in Ace Combat Infinity, it's probably somebody else using it. I'm not trying to snub anybody! :<
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Jun 12, 2014 16:45
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We should set up a team of 4-8 goons for sometime this weekend at a set time to go into a closed room. We can open it up after that if need be. And go hunting for Dicks.
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Insane Totoro posted:We should set up a team of 4-8 goons for sometime this weekend at a set time to go into a closed room. We can open it up after that if need be. And go hunting for Dicks. I'm down. I haven't bought the campaign pack yet, so I still have a potential 20 fuel to burn.
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Me too. I'm not sure how Sunday's looking but Saturday I've got all day.
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Incidentally, has anyone here ever fought Moby Dick III? I wound up looking it up on YouTube, and holy poo poo It's gold-plated and covered with loving laser cannons. 
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Jun 12, 2014 17:13
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Saturday sounds good for me too. I've been hoarding stocked fuel lately waiting for the next big tournament that I want a piece of, but I can do a couple at least.
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I am down for some binge playing this Saturday as well. I just bought a F-14a so I'm going to need to get some credits and posts unlocked.
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I'll try and join the fun this Saturday. Every team needs an Attacker who's proficient at avoiding the open spaces between buildings.  I suspect that due to my new work schedule, I'll probably be on around 4:00 or 5:00 A.M. CST, hopping on and off throughout the day until 7:00 or 8:00 PM. edit: If the party is fuckin' raging and you don't see me, someone do me a large and shoot me a PM so my email will bark at me and I'll know to come join the fun. GOTTA STAY FAI fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jun 12, 2014 |
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Jun 12, 2014 18:59
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Saturday sounds good. Wonder if I can get the -E before then..
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I'll probably be available Saturday night if there are any spots open.
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How does the "two teams of four" work in multiplayer? Are the two teams on opposing sides? Do you ever dogfight human pilots? Or is it all coop vs AI?
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4 human players per team or 2 human 2 AI vs 2 human 2 AI Also was reading the Ace Combat artbook yesterday, found something that werent covered in the original Ace Combat Zero: Apparently Avalon Dam site/v2 control facility wasnt found until its too late because the entire facility was hidden under the dam and covered with water at all time, so in June 20th 1995, no weapon inspector found anything in the area. It wasnt until the day of launch, they expelled the water and the facility was exposed.
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