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I played TFTD first. On the Playstation. Without a mouse  In fact I'm suffering through TFTD right now (TFTD Extender helps a little), holding out for OpenXcom 2. EU is so repetitive, and the maps are so small. I can take some underwater silliness and an antiquated UI in exchange for a much more atmospheric game Zaphod42 posted:I thought the underwater setting was totally spooky It's the soundtrack  I actually hum it while I play EU  , it's the X-COM soundtrack to meZaphod42 posted:I do play both and like both. You have to admit that EU's UFOpaedia is actually useful. It tells you about the aliens' weaknesses, exactly what to research next to proceed to the next stage, etc. TFTD's is incomplete, contradictory and overly poetical. What even is the deal with the Synomium devices? what happens if I destroy all twelve? I still don't know, actually How am I supposed to know that Lobstermen are vulnerable to stunning based on the UFOpaedia alone? What is the deal with Tasoths and the amount of plain wrong poo poo in the reports on them? Why is the Deep One holding a PWT launcher? Coming from TFTD, I was shocked at how, uh, easy and linear EU was. Speaking of "linear", let's not even get into TFTD's inexplicable research tree You also have to admit that the "underwater only" equipment restrictions are pretty stupid and sometimes illogical. So USOs and Bio Drones and their reverse-engineered equivalents can fly outside of water with ION engines, why can't Magnetic ION Armour?
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hackbunny posted:It's the soundtrack That soundtrack really is quite terrific for its time. You can get the remastered music files [however they define remastered] here: http://www.strategycore.co.uk/files/tftd-remastered/
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Jul 8, 2014 23:24
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They all go WAY too fast to invoke the originals' inexorable atmosphere.
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Jul 8, 2014 23:30
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THE BAR posted:They all go WAY too fast to invoke the originals' inexorable atmosphere. I'm kinda wondering if your audio player is hosed, 'cause they're the same speed they've always been as best I can tell. I could be wrong though. Unless you mean "original" as in Enemy Unknown?
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Jul 8, 2014 23:32
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armoredgorilla posted:I'm kinda wondering if your audio player is hosed, 'cause they're the same speed they've always been as best I can tell. I could be wrong though. I mean original as in the MIDI files for TFTD, but it's the way every instrument sounds the same in their version, that it sounds (to me) like it's sped up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im6a7v7QgSs
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THE BAR posted:I mean original as in the MIDI files for TFTD, but it's the way every instrument sounds the same in their version, that it sounds (to me) like it's sped up. Huh. You know what, I guess you're right, the new ones do sound a slight bit sped up compared to the midis.
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Jul 8, 2014 23:37
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armoredgorilla posted:That soundtrack really is quite terrific for its time. Well, I grew up with the PSX version. It was a pain in every conceivable way (a single savegame per memory card, long load times, I had to borrow a mouse but more often than not I played with the pad, etc.), but the remastered soundtrack and CD-quality ambient sounds were so much better than the PC version. I think TFTD Extender supports the PSX music, I should look into it hackbunny fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Jul 9, 2014 |
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hackbunny posted:
Last time I tried to play, I had two main squads - one for undersea ops and one for ground ones. I actually did better than usual, until my land team got torn to shreds by lobstermen. Does the TFTD Extender do anything to rebalance the difficulty, or is it simply about getting the game running without DOSBox?
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:Does the TFTD Extender do anything to rebalance the difficulty, or is it simply about getting the game running without DOSBox? It fixes a ton of bugs and adds a few improvements/commonly used mods, think of it as an OpenXcom "prequel". Off the top of my head:
Still has some of the most infuriating bugs of the original, like the incredibly inefficient interception trajectories or how you can overfill your stores without realizing it e: and of course it supports MP3 and PSX soundtracks hackbunny fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Jul 9, 2014 |
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As someone who can't code in C (Although I'm good with scripting), can't do graphics and can't translate into other languages, is there anyway I can contribute to openxcom 2.0? Its an awesome project and I'd love to take part in this, as X-com UFO/TFTD was some of my favourite childhood games
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Jul 9, 2014 14:40
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hackbunny posted:It fixes a ton of bugs and adds a few improvements/commonly used mods, think of it as an OpenXcom "prequel". Off the top of my head: Holy poo poo, I never checked to see if there was a TFTD Extender by now - I used to fill my XCom jones with UFO Extender and kept wishing for a TFTD version.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Holy poo poo, I never checked to see if there was a TFTD Extender by now - I used to fill my XCom jones with UFO Extender and kept wishing for a TFTD version. http://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=TFTDextender There's some USO fixes on strategycore.co.uk too that patch the Very Small and Small USOs being flip flopped as in game maps and that fixes the routing on the Very Small USO. The VSUSO has unconnected routes by default, so any aliens spawning inside it will never leave their places. I think the battleship and supply ship side views in interception mode are flip flopped too? I don't believe TFTDExtender fixes either of those issues.
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armoredgorilla posted:I think the battleship and supply ship side views in interception mode are flip flopped too? I don't believe TFTDExtender fixes either of those issues. Huh, you're right. I could swear the interception images were fixed at least, but there's no mention of that in the wiki page
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hackbunny posted:Huh, you're right. I could swear the interception images were fixed at least, but there's no mention of that in the wiki page I'm a layman with coding, but I'm guessing its because it's not a bug in the code itself, but in the files it pulls from? IE. the routing issue would be patched in mapview with the .RMP file and the interception view is just an image file flip-flop. primaltrash fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Jul 9, 2014 |
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gently caress, this hot rear end weather is not conductive to making pixelart, but I'm getting somewhere: Now to do the Ufopaedia art. Sorta relaxing to work at the bigger resolutions, 32x40 is awfully restrictive. Inventory/Ufopaedia stuff:   Hmm, maybe the three eyes should be a little more distinct.
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Oh wow, is that the actual resolution of UFOpaedia pages? I never realized how tiny they were. Reminds me of the time I made high-resolution icons for MAME games by cleaning up screenshots of their title screens. Most games had a lower resolution than the maximum Windows icon size (256x256)  Pimpmust posted:Hmm, maybe the three eyes should be a little more distinct. Oooh, do the autopsy next! 
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This is pretty awesome and already way better than playing XcomUtil mods. Really loving the quality of life improvements to resolution, navigation, etc. And the added features are great. Now I'm gonna play with installing mods until the game doesn't boot anymore, and then I may tinker with some modding of my own. Lots of possibilities here. I always wanted an XCOM game with just like twice as many guns and aliens. I think that'll realistically happen now, there's already lots of great weapon mods on the openXcom website. There's a mod which adds the Men In Black as a new enemy, which is really cool, but I want a mod that lets me dress up X-COM as the MIB, rather than fighting them. Should be pretty easy to copy his sprites, although there's probably some angles missing or something for player sprites... hmm.
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hackbunny posted:Oh wow, is that the actual resolution of UFOpaedia pages? I never realized how tiny they were. Reminds me of the time I made high-resolution icons for MAME games by cleaning up screenshots of their title screens. Most games had a lower resolution than the maximum Windows icon size (256x256) Ufopaedia is 150x150 for the actual models, that sprite is for the alien inventory screen and is about half that. I'm only up to about take 5 for the actual ingame animation, getting those loving limbs to all fit right  (On the plus side it all works as far as gameplay is concerned) Pimpmust fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Jul 10, 2014 |
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Jul 10, 2014 10:06
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Replace chryssalids with yoshi, zombies with baby mario.
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Replace aliens with X-Com troopers, have everyone play with terrestrial weapons and pretend its Jagged Alliance.
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That makes me want a reversal-mod. You play head of the Alien defense committee on Mars, and the evil Human X-COM invaders are destroying your poo poo. Defend Mars! Death to the Humans!
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^^^^^^ You HAVE read Guavamoment's TFTD Let's Play, right? Are there any tutorials on creating and implementing new terrain? Using the existing assets only, not creating new assets. I was able use Mapview to view the route maps, floorplans, etc, but couldn't work out how to change anything or create a new map.
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armoredgorilla posted:^^^^^^ You HAVE read Guavamoment's TFTD Let's Play, right?  This is amazing. No, I hadn't, thankyou.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WziO005uM3g
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I love how there's only 30 legit seconds of gameplay. Classic.
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 Gonna attempt my hand at an autopsy next, and then go back and orrect whatever errors that I can pick out.
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SupSuper, how do I participate to the development? Like, I've had a look at the issue tracker for features to implement, especially UI improvements, how do I know what's worth implementing? i.e. what actually has a chance of ending up in the next release And how do I actually send you my changes to the code? e: sent my first pull request  Man, I had never used github before, now I get why everyone is so crazy about it
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Pimpmust posted:
 hackbunny posted:SupSuper, how do I participate to the development? Like, I've had a look at the issue tracker for features to implement, especially UI improvements, how do I know what's worth implementing? i.e. what actually has a chance of ending up in the next release Trying to fix some bugs might be a better option. I noticed you're a Mac user, so maybe you can tackle the Mac issues that none of us can figure out: http://openxcom.org/bugs/openxcom/issues/504 http://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?topic=2564.0 hackbunny posted:e: sent my first pull request Normally you'll want to make a separate branch for each PR so you can easily and specifically only put the stuff that you want on it.
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SupSuper posted:We're currently busy discussing what to do about all the insane feature requests, so I couldn't tell you if implementing them yourself would just make things better or worse for us. Right now I'm biting my hands in anger because I had taken notes peeking above the shoulder of my girlfriend playing for the first time, and it was invaluable information, a total X-COM virgin's first impressions, but I lost them  None of the existing issues on your tracker ring a bell, either: I guess us "veterans" are too used to the cranky old UI. Ah well, I'll find something else to do (like fix the stilted Italian translation...)SupSuper posted:Trying to fix some bugs might be a better option. I noticed you're a Mac user, so maybe you can tackle the Mac issues that none of us can figure out: The first issue relates to a Retina display which I don't have (... unless I compile and run OpenXcom on my iPhone I guess? Has anyone tried?). The second issue already comes with a fix, doesn't it?SupSuper posted:A word of warning though, you've pull requested your "master" branch. Github doesn't magically take a snapshot of your code when you make a pull requests, it just references your branch. This means any changes you make to your "master" branch later will still be applied to the pull request. That always catches people off-guard.  Thanks for the heads up. Github honeymoon: over. Aaand I'm off to fix my other pull requests (is there a better place to keep in touch with you and the other developers than this thread?)
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hackbunny posted:(is there a better place to keep in touch with you and the other developers than this thread?)
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anyone who needs the original files will be happy to know that: X-com, TFTD, Apocalypse and other games for 8.17$ (+new Xcom and BioShock Infinite for 20$) are all available at humble bundle https://www.humblebundle.com/
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Watching this LP makes me wish the new X-COM game had drop-in matchmaking ala some of the new total war games. So you are playing your campaign then when a mission comes up you can either play normally or find a human opponent to play the enemy team.
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armoredgorilla posted:http://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=TFTDextender I would certainly love to give this a shot, but my antivirus keeps yelling at me whenever I try to unzip it. This may be a false positive, as I've seen some folks in other forums claim, but I was hoping somebody here could verify it.
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Lamprey Cannon posted:I would certainly love to give this a shot, but my antivirus keeps yelling at me whenever I try to unzip it. This may be a false positive, as I've seen some folks in other forums claim, but I was hoping somebody here could verify it. It's a false positive, I've used it plenty of times.
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Seconded, my AV didn't flag it at all. Just note that, while it's very cool, it's not quite OpenTFTD. Keep your expectations low and you shouldn't be too disappointed.
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Speaking of Opens, someone started an OpenApoc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQGvXrLUW44 More details on the news post.
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SupSuper posted:Speaking of Opens, someone started an OpenApoc: If it can fix the problems of Apocalypse and mods could expand from the things cut from the game, I'm down with it.
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Mr. Fortitude posted:If it can fix the problems of Apocalypse and mods could expand from the things cut from the game, I'm down with it. Can someone tell me what was cut from it, because the wiki page on 'unused game features' hsant been made at all.
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Communist Zombie posted:Can someone tell me what was cut from it, because the wiki page on 'unused game features' hsant been made at all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-COM:_Apocalypse#Mega-Primus "Originally, the game was going to be much larger and be even more in-depth, with political intrigue helping to bring the city of Mega-Primus to life. An unimplemented weapon called the Tracker Gun could be fired at an unsuspecting enemy, attaching some kind of tracer onto his clothes. The person could then be trailed around the city by one or more X-COM agents. All of this political intrigue was cut down to the bare bones due to the following constraints."
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Pimpmust posted:
The community is wondering where you went, so feel free to post again when you get your new work going.
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