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3 Stacked Midgets posted:-The majority of UFOs you see can be shot down by regular interceptors with the default armaments. Almost everything can be shot down with upgraded interceptors. Almost? I'm playing TFTD and I can VVV hackbunny fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Aug 19, 2014 |
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Every UFO, save for Battleships, can be brought down with multiple Interceptors equipped with avalanche missiles. That said, this gets very expensive very fast, since you not only need to pay for the missiles themselves, but also the leases on the jets. It's much more economical to rush research on the plasma rifle or heavy plasma, then get plasma beams. Also, just now I lost a superhuman ironman game at the very final mission. One team spawned near a group of chryssalids, who pounced immediately once I had deployed them. The second spawned near their target, but ended up getting in a pincer attack from a group of ethereals and a sectopod. I didn't try using high explosives in the narrow hallway, because I wouldn't've been able to get clear of the blast and there were only two people left at that point.  Does it still count as a victory if you blow up the alien brain, but vaporize your last soldiers in the process?
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Hedera Helix posted:A lot of people prefer using auto shot to snap shot. These people are wrong! Auto shots have terrible accuracy and, if you're using non-laser weaponry, will eat up all of your ammunition. Only use auto shot when you're either right in the alien's face, if it's a 4x4 alien, if you're fighting late-game enemies with conventional or laser weapons, or if you're destroying cover. If you have a soldier that is missing shots regularly, consider making them a grenadier instead, or put them on scout duty. The major thing about auto shot is that while the reported chance to hit is indeed quite bad, that 10% chance to hit applies to all of the bullets you shoot individually - which means if you're fighting weak Sectoids that you have actually a 27.1% chance of getting a hit in that burst (the chance that none of your shots hit is 90%^3 or 72.9% rather than 90%). Spending as much AP as possible on bursts gets you a 46.9% chance to hit at least once from the stated 10% (6 bullets at 10% CTH each), plus 30% AP for a snap if you want or moving around. Doing the same with a 10% snap accuracy would get you four shots, no extra AP and a 34.4% chance to hit at least once. You can compare in-game shot options accurately by taking the reported chance to hit, subtract it from 1 to get your reported chance to miss, then multiply by the total number of bullets you're sending downrange (snap does 1, auto does 3 per burst), then subtract from 1 again to get the chance that at least 1 bullet hits - when I last played, the auto shot was always accurate enough to outweigh the snap option. Your point about potential bullet wastage does stand, though - this is why before laser weapons I make sure my guys have at least 2 extra clips on hand. Ignatius M. Meen fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Aug 19, 2014 |
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Range-based accuracy breaks auto fire  It lowers the accuracy so much that auto fire is pretty much guaranteed to never hit
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hackbunny posted:Range-based accuracy breaks auto fire Well that is pretty terrible and definitely not the way it used to be. Harrumph.
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:The major thing about auto shot is that while the reported chance to hit is indeed quite bad, that 10% chance to hit applies to all of the bullets you shoot individually - which means if you're fighting weak Sectoids that you have actually a 27.1% chance of getting a hit in that burst (the chance that none of your shots hit is 90%^3 or 72.9% rather than 90%). Spending as much AP as possible on bursts gets you a 46.9% chance to hit at least once from the stated 10% (6 bullets at 10% CTH each), plus 30% AP for a snap if you want or moving around. Doing the same with a 10% snap accuracy would get you four shots, no extra AP and a 34.4% chance to hit at least once. You can compare in-game shot options accurately by taking the reported chance to hit, subtract it from 1 to get your reported chance to miss, then multiply by the total number of bullets you're sending downrange (snap does 1, auto does 3 per burst), then subtract from 1 again to get the chance that at least 1 bullet hits - when I last played, the auto shot was always accurate enough to outweigh the snap option. Your point about potential bullet wastage does stand, though - this is why before laser weapons I make sure my guys have at least 2 extra clips on hand. The accuracy formula doesn't appear to work off of percent chances directly, but rather, the percent chances represent how wide of a cone one's shots will fall into. I will say that, anecdotally, I've had better results with auto shots using higher-accuracy weapons like the plasma rifle or the laser rifle, as opposed to something like the laser pistol, which is pretty inaccurate even when using snap shots.
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hackbunny posted:Almost? I'm playing TFTD and I can 
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hackbunny posted:Range-based accuracy breaks auto fire Auto-fire is still extremely effective when you run into an alien unexpectedly around a corner and HAVE to get that kill. It makes a lot of logical sense, and works fine.
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SupSuper posted:It's the same in UFO. If you think they bothered to change something like game logic for TFTD, you got another thing coming. But they did nerf almost all other weapons, didn't they? It's weird that USOs are so easy to sink when anything else in the game hates you and wants you to fail (believe me, I know TFTD is just a reskin . Every time I try to think how I'd "fix" it, I end up imagining pretty much a new game)
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Is there any way to open doors without stepping through them?
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VisAbsoluta posted:Is there any way to open doors without stepping through them?
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http://openxcom.org/2014/08/bubbles/ I am so goddamn excited for this.
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Which mods are good, and which mods are bad? There seem to be a lot of weapons mods that I'm not interested in at all, and I'm not sure if the new aliens do that much to make the game more compelling.
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Seconding the request, the mods don't look that great. The engine is a little limiting I guess SupSuper, how's the developers' view on engine extensions? I'm thinking of new movement types (e.g. grapple guns, rappeling, crawling, etc.), new weapon types (e.g. heavy machine gun that you can fire from the hip or deploy on the ground first), or battlescape extensions like ladders, actual elevators, explosions with shockwaves and shrapnel, structural damage, vehicles, etc. I guess the hardest part would be to teach the AI about the new features, and other balance issues
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armoredgorilla posted:I'm still in love with the original game, so I'm not too into modding it, but here's some that might be cool: Thanks! I'll probably check out the new map layouts first. Looks like there's also an alien base map pack: http://www.openxcom.com/mod/expanded-ubase My ironman superhuman save got corrupted, so the next time I do that I might just do it manually.
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3 Stacked Midgets posted:Which mods are good, and which mods are bad? There seem to be a lot of weapons mods that I'm not interested in at all, and I'm not sure if the new aliens do that much to make the game more compelling. - Power/Flying Suit without helmet - so your soldiers remain distinct. - Alien Inventory Graphics - adds graphics for mind-controlled alien inventory. - UFOCF Soundtrack - awesome new music - New UFO floorplans - keep that first door opening unpredictable. They're custom-made so you don't get the same bugs as XcomUtil's random ones. - New mission terrains - adds more variety and challenge. - New alien base blocks - same. - Grenade Launcher - turn throwing accuracy into firing accuracy - Shotgun - because every game needs a shotgun - Combat Knife - when you don't want to take them alive hackbunny posted:Seconding the request, the mods don't look that great. The engine is a little limiting I guess
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SupSuper posted:If people wanna make their own OpenXcom forks/extensions/variations/etc they can. Engine extensions like the things I have in mind would give modders new tools to work with without affecting vanilla. The reason I'd love to see them in the master branch is that you can't really install engine/game extensions as mods, they are entirely different games that may even end up growing their own mods (e.g.: Soldier Diaries) SupSuper posted:If people wanna make their own OpenXcom forks/extensions/variations/etc they can. I don't think there's any way to cleanly support those in the main codebase though, most would require serious code rewrites. *cracks knuckles* hackbunny fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Aug 26, 2014 |
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SupSuper posted:- Grenade Launcher - turn throwing accuracy into firing accuracy Never unsee the fact that the stock of the launcher is actually a power armor suit's leg.
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I'm liking the aggressive retaliation setting. It makes it so you have to man most of your bases, and also gives you a reason to use firestorms and avengers more. The only downside in terms of making the game harder is that it gives you a bunch of easy blaster launchers and other loot early on in the game. Settings like this make the game more fun. Would also like to see things like dialing up and down the frequency and types of missions that aliens do.
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SupSuper just posted this one the OpenXcom blog: http://openxcom.org/2014/09/nope-nope-nope-nope-nope/SupSuper posted:Headline: Nope nope nope nope nope What happened dude?
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There was a newspost a day earlier called "Some questions for contributors" that got deleted. Something's going on. EDIT: Dude was commiting to GitHub as recently as 21 hours ago. Whatever's happened, it's sudden. The Kins fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Sep 21, 2014 |
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And the Twitter account appears to have been deleted.
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Everything's fine. Even if I were to snap, Warboy's got my back. Moral here is don't incite holy wars: 
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SupSuper posted:Everything's fine. Even if I were to snap, Warboy's got my back. What am I looking at here? I'm real confused, what even happened?
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0lives posted:What am I looking at here? I'm real confused, what even happened? He asked about updating some of the packages that OpenXcom uses. Which happens often with any open project and can often times start wars within the dev team. Stuff like this can happen with just updating the Open Source license as well.
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SupSuper posted:Everything's fine. Even if I were to snap, Warboy's got my back. If you want a non-religious answer: your codebase would greatly benefit from C++11 (reduces repetition in for-each loops and YAML deserialization; replace map with unordered_map for improved performance; etc.), but it's very hostile to switching to smart pointers right now - I know because I tried, and it absolutely can't be done in stages, it's all or nothing and requires some design work (what objects own what objects?) Get TFTD done first hackbunny fucked around with this message at 09:01 on Sep 22, 2014 |
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Snakeman soldier has panicked! Snakeman soldier has accurately thrown a grenade into your last four men, killing two! Thanks, snakeman soldier.
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Teddles posted:Snakeman soldier has panicked!  My favourite panic is -- ok, my very favourite panic ever was "Ethereal Commander has panicked!" as my fireteams broke down the doors of the final level and assumed total psychic control of everything in it. But my next favourite after that was a late-game battleship assault. Shortly after arriving, I got a few panic messages, but nothing seemed to come of it. Then I breached the battleship and found out that the mid-deck was badly damaged and the top-deck was just gone, an empty shell with occasional pools of glowing slag that used to be walls. Something on the bridge had panicked carrying a blaster launcher.
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More TFTD: http://openxcom.org/2014/10/particles/
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Augh, I HATE to ask the question, but any idea when 2.0 is due out? I am desperate to scratch my TFTD itch, but I want to do it with OpenXCom. drat good work you guys have done. Even "Early 2016" would work, just so I know how long to freeze myself for. primaltrash fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Oct 10, 2014 |
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holy gently caress OpenXcom has turned from 'a way to run xcom easily on a modern machine' into 'a way to run LITERALLY THE MOST PERFECT VERSION OF XCOM YOU CAN IMAGINE' some of these mods are loving cool e: you're doing TFTD!?!?\ gently caress gently caress ohmygodohmygodohmygod
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Literal Carehaver posted:holy gently caress OpenXcom has turned from 'a way to run xcom easily on a modern machine' into 'a way to run LITERALLY THE MOST PERFECT VERSION OF XCOM YOU CAN IMAGINE' I get way too much enjoyment out of how much more like an arch' 90s comic the PSX Font mod makes the game look.
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Literal Carehaver posted:holy gently caress OpenXcom has turned from 'a way to run xcom easily on a modern machine' into 'a way to run LITERALLY THE MOST PERFECT VERSION OF XCOM YOU CAN IMAGINE' Best post/avatar combo in the thread. TFTD is exciting, but a TFTD/UFO combination is what will really excite me.
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What mods are people using anyway? I've been using the mixed crews, luke's extra ufo's, more tilesets, MIB. Think that's all. Anything else that is really good enough to put into the game?
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Gaghskull posted:What mods are people using anyway? I've been using the mixed crews, luke's extra ufo's, more tilesets, MIB. Think that's all. Anything else that is really good enough to put into the game? Scroll up. A couple new ones that seem solid and without scope creep: http://www.openxcom.com/mod/extra-explosions http://www.openxcom.com/mod/alloy-ground-tanks primaltrash fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Dec 2, 2014 |
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i'm replaying xcom for the billionth time but it feels very new because of all these fancy mods! the shotgun/sniper rifle/auto pistols make the run up to laser weapons less boring. i try to put off going to laser/plasma too soon because it makes things too easy. however by far the coolest mods are the fancy new maps. no more running around the same weird rear end grocery store on a terror mission! these new, unexplored maps make you feel completely PARANOID excited to be playing xcom with a fresh experience. also urban camo uniforms with kevlar vests. xenos mad cuz they gettin styled on
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hackbunny posted:If you want a non-religious answer: your codebase would greatly benefit from C++11 (reduces repetition in for-each loops and YAML deserialization; replace map with unordered_map for improved performance; etc.), but it's very hostile to switching to smart pointers right now - I know because I tried, and it absolutely can't be done in stages, it's all or nothing and requires some design work (what objects own what objects?) Having used C++03 and then C++11 in production software - listen to this poster!
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