TubeStank posted:Washington's original name was Braves you dummy. And they were renamed Redskins because they played in Fenway Park, home of the Red Sox. But that doesnt change the fact that the New Orleans Hornet's renaming is a totally different case.
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The Washington Federales. Honestly just call them the Potomacs and be done with it.
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Jun 18, 2014 23:18
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GaussianCopula posted:And they were renamed Redskins because they played in Fenway Park, home of the Red Sox. Totally different in that you have a really inflated sense of Washington's football tradition or, really, any franchise's tradition short of the Lakers, Yankees, Packers, etc. The Redskins are not in that echelon. They're in a high tier echelon, but they're not one of the most successful franchises in sports.
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Jun 18, 2014 23:20
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GaussianCopula posted:The "technicallity" was that the people brining the complaint did so after the trademark was in effect for quiete a long time and the courts ruled there is some kind of statue of limitations on filling complaints. Now they looked for younger indians that were underaged until very recently and hope to avoid this problem that way. The issue was something called, laches, which isn't at all the same as a statute of limitations. A statute of limitations says "the situation has been around for X amount of time, it's unchangeable now." Laches says "you knew about it and didn't do anything about it for X years, you (and only you) are not allowed to challenge it." The new plaintiffs turned 18 and filed immediately, so laches won't apply. (And there's minimal law on this, but if the cancellation sticks on appeal, there's at least one case that suggests that unregistrable marks can't be enforced via the lanham act. And basically all states use a mini-lanham with an identical provision for canceling disparaging marks, so the state law analogues won't be usable either. Good luck enforcing your common law rights without going through either the Lanham or mini-Lanham statutory provisions, Snyder!)
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Jun 18, 2014 23:20
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GaussianCopula posted:And they were renamed Redskins because they played in Fenway Park, home of the Red Sox. Wrong. They were renamed that solely because of the baseball team that had the name Braves and Marshall didn't want his lesser known team to be confused with the baseball team. Do you know ANY history of Washington's team?
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Jun 18, 2014 23:21
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Guys can't we all just get along? gently caress you Snyder.
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Probably Magic posted:Totally different in that you have a really inflated sense of Washington's football tradition or, really, any franchise's tradition short of the Lakers, Yankees, Packers, etc. The Redskins are not in that echelon. They're in a high tier echelon, but they're not one of the most successful franchises in sports. http://www.forbes.com/nfl-valuations/ redskins are #3 packers are # 12 To compare them to NBA and MLB teams is a bit complicated because the top tier teams there have better options with regards to TV deals (e.g. YES network for the yankees)
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Jun 18, 2014 23:30
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TubeStank posted:Washington's original name was Braves you dummy. so what just cause a guy's wrong with every point he makes doesn't mean he isn't totally right!
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Jun 18, 2014 23:31
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Kull the Conqueror posted:If Washington were a well-run organization, they would arrange an exchange program for at least a discount. Unfortunately, we're talking about Dan Snyder, penny-pinching mastermind. The really depressing thing here is that when Snyder finally re-brands the team he will make a mint off of sales of the new merchandise. A significant portion of the first year of merchandise sales should go to some kind of Native American citizens, but of course that won't happen because Snyder is a douchebag like that.
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Jun 18, 2014 23:32
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GaussianCopula posted:http://www.forbes.com/nfl-valuations/ Tradition != monetary value And by success he meant on-field I'm pretty sure
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Jun 18, 2014 23:33
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GaussianCopula posted:http://www.forbes.com/nfl-valuations/ That has a lot more to do with Green Bay's unique ownership structure than with the Redskins being a more valuable franchise.
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Jun 18, 2014 23:33
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Intruder posted:Meh, all a big red title means is "I pissed someone off who has more money than sense" most of the time Yea, but this time the title is right.
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Jun 18, 2014 23:33
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The Redskins brand has very little to do with the word "Redskins". Really, the brand would be better without that word long term. Think about that LIBERALS
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Chichevache posted:Yea, but this time the title is right. Admittedly the fact that he came into this thread with a "Heh, you liberals  " attitude doesn't do him any favors
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Jun 18, 2014 23:35
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The Washington Contractors is obviously the best name.
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Jun 18, 2014 23:37
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Friends, I stand before you today because a great injustice has been perpetrated on my people. I come from a proud and noble tradition. George Marshall, Jack Kent Cooke. These are men who stood for what they believed in. And what they believed in was a world where a man would not be discriminated against just because he spent millions of dollars to enforce nationwide publicly-endorsed hate speech. Please friends, find it in your hearts to tell those drat feather-headed buffalo jockey savages to respect our culture.
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Jun 18, 2014 23:47
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The Washington Pox Blankets.
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Jun 18, 2014 23:53
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This whole situation is pretty ironic considering George P. Marshall was forced to integrate his team in the '60s by the government because he kept refusing to add a black player, and the government threatened to revoke their stadium lease if they didn't comply. So of course Snyder follows in that hallowed tradition.
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Jun 18, 2014 23:55
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shiksa posted:I really hope this sticks, because otherwise it would've been Dan Snyder slowly, deliberately tearing off a band-aid for years on end. Alliteration rules and so do wizards.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:01
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Washington Warthogs is alliterative. And the best idea so far.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:06
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I say we bring back the Washington Senators. Or, failing that, they could always go for the Washington Representatives or even the Washington Interns.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:17
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Washington Wizard-Kings
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Jun 19, 2014 00:19
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Merchandise sales, except within the stadium itself, are distributed amongst the teams equally. Snyder isn't getting much richer off changing the name.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:20
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Ozu posted:Merchandise sales, except within the stadium itself, are distributed amongst the teams equally. Snyder isn't getting much richer off changing the name. But if he changes it every season!
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Jun 19, 2014 00:25
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Ozu posted:Merchandise sales, except within the stadium itself, are distributed amongst the teams equally. Snyder isn't getting much richer off changing the name. Ah, right. I forgot about that. Snyder will still find a way to make money off the whole thing I'm sure. Something like raising ticket prices to help pay for the re-branding costs.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:30
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Just read through the whole thread, and it's pretty funny to see how the echo chamber slowly goes from "gently caress YEAH GO PROGRESSIVES GO GOVERNMENT" to "well I guess nothing's going to change".
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Jun 19, 2014 00:33
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Wanvig posted:Just read through the whole thread, and it's pretty funny to see how the echo chamber slowly goes from "gently caress YEAH GO PROGRESSIVES GO GOVERNMENT" to "well I guess nothing's going to change". I am pretty sure that is mainly GC. Actually its completely GC. Based off one post from reddit.
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shiksa posted:so what just cause a guy's wrong with every point he makes doesn't mean he isn't totally right! I really shouldn't be surprised that a random dude who hasn't posted in TFF much (if at all) has no knowledge of the franchise. Wanvig posted:Just read through the whole thread, and it's pretty funny to see how the echo chamber slowly goes from "gently caress YEAH GO PROGRESSIVES GO GOVERNMENT" to "well I guess nothing's going to change". But nobody really will know the impact of the ruling in the short term. During the appeal the trademark will still stand, so we probably won't be seeing any real impact for a few years. This particular case took 8 years to see a ruling. If it's upheld then I wouldn't be all that surprised to see the rest of the owners push for a change because it's going to cost them profits as well due to the revenue sharing (if it's still the name then). The name has been contentious for decades and will continue to be as long as it's around. It's going to change sooner rather than later.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:37
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I don't think any change will be dramatic. They'll change to "Warriors" or "Red Warriors" or "Red Hawks". Something that will allow them to keep the feathers and colors in tact. I guess they could just drop the kins at the end and go as the Reds.
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Congressman Steve King weighs in:quote:Steve King @SteveKingIA
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Jun 19, 2014 01:24
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I wondered who the first "Thanks Obama" would be.
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Niwrad posted:I don't think any change will be dramatic. They'll change to "Warriors" or "Red Warriors" or "Red Hawks". Something that will allow them to keep the feathers and colors in tact. I guess they could just drop the kins at the end and go as the Reds. no communiss in muh footbaw motherfucker
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NC-17 posted:I wondered who the first "Thanks Obama" would be. We're not surprised here in Iowa
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gohuskies posted:Congressman Steve King weighs in: This reads like word salad.
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It looks like he took a Freep comment and ran it through Google Translate.
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Jun 19, 2014 01:39
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How about the Washington Scalpers.
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TMMadman posted:How about the Washington Scalpers. Washington Expired Peanuts
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Washington Expired Peanuts I've got it: The Washington Carvers.
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Legal goons, what do you think the basis for the appeal will be?
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