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10 just happened to be the pick that seems to be the focal point of kesler trade talks. i wouldnt make the pick with him, but if the canucks did, id be all for it basically they could pick one of a dozen forwards with a 10th and id be ok with it. there are a LOT of similar, exciting forwards in this draft
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 06:18 |
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Sens posted a video on their site of discussions between scouts, and while nobody mentions names, like half of it is clearly about Ho-Sang and how he's "the last last last" thing they want to bring into the organization. Because more 2nd/3rd line hardworking tweener prospects is something this team needs.
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 06:19 |
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bub spank posted:Sens posted a video on their site of discussions between scouts, and while nobody mentions names, like half of it is clearly about Ho-Sang and how he's "the last last last" thing they want to bring into the organization. Well the last time a team picked a dude with massive baggage to his name (Islanders) he turned into what everyone really projected (Kabanov)
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 06:25 |
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Draft him Goldblum. Draft him and make Subban his mentor.
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 06:44 |
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I can't wait for the Devils to gently caress up another forward.
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 07:28 |
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Ho-Sang very much play like a minor midget player. End to end rushes and dangles look nice, but they rarely even work in major junior. I think he's going to have a ton of difficulty adjusting his game to the NHL level. I don't see him as much more than a second round talent, based purely on his game as a hockey player.
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 14:28 |
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Rene Bork posted:Draft him Goldblum. Draft him and make Subban his mentor. Going to be tough to mentor him from Philly.
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 14:31 |
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Ho-Sang's mad dangles barely work against OHLers, I find it very hard to believe he'll be an effective pro player. Kane is a similarish player, but is effective because he knows how to distribute the puck and only busts out the high skill stuff when teams aren't expecting it. Ho-Sang tries it shift in and shift out and defences just knowto back off him and let him lose the puck in his feet. He could be a good top six guy if a team is patient with him and lets him develop with a coach who won't insist he suddenly turn into a two way guy when he doesn't immediately make it as a scorer. That's not going to happen though and he'll be playing in Frolunda before he's 26.
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 14:34 |
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A Typical Goon posted:Ho-Sang very much play like a minor midget player. End to end rushes and dangles look nice, but they rarely even work in major junior. I think he's going to have a ton of difficulty adjusting his game to the NHL level. I don't see him as much more than a second round talent, based purely on his game as a hockey player. No, but you see 3 years out of this he will be the best player in this draft. And he has no doubt about that. He knows himself. He knows the other players. He believes in his ability. There are guys ranked ahead of him who are nowhere near him
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 14:34 |
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Ho-Sang's attitude is awesome. e: Probably says the word 'celly' a lot though.
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 14:35 |
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Verviticus posted:10 just happened to be the pick that seems to be the focal point of kesler trade talks. i wouldnt make the pick with him, but if the canucks did, id be all for it Murray is supposedly doing everything he can to make the trade happen without moving pick number 10. I figure if it's moved, it'll be right before the pick, since Murray wants to see who's still on the board.
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 14:42 |
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Austrian mook posted:Murray is supposedly doing everything he can to make the trade happen without moving pick number 10. I figure if it's moved, it'll be right before the pick, since Murray wants to see who's still on the board. I don't think that Benning wants to do that as he's been pretty public about his desire to jump up to 1st overall and the 10th pick would probably be part of that. I'm not unconvinced all that talk isn't a smokescreen for something else though. I still think that Kesler to Anaheim gets done tomorrow evening and that Murray will relent and put 10th overall on the table.
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 14:44 |
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ThinkTank posted:I don't think that Benning wants to do that as he's been pretty public about his desire to jump up to 1st overall and the 10th pick would probably be part of that. I'm not unconvinced all that talk isn't a smokescreen for something else though. Why trade the pick before you know what's being moved? I mean I really want Kesler on this team but I really don't see a Chicago deal happening with them so close to cap and that probably makes Anaheim the only possibility, or at least the team with the best offer. Whats the latest rumor on that front anyway?
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 14:49 |
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Austrian mook posted:Why trade the pick before you know what's being moved? I mean I really want Kesler on this team but I really don't see a Chicago deal happening with them so close to cap and that probably makes Anaheim the only possibility, or at least the team with the best offer. Whats the latest rumor on that front anyway? Because the Canucks would probably want to use 6+10 to move up to 1st overall. Canucks are in the unique position where it doesn't matter if they retain salary on the Kesler transaction. If a team like Chicago wants him but are worried about the cap, the Canucks can pay half of his contract if Chicago throws in another asset. Kesler at $2.5M is an amazing deal and pretty much any team could make that work financially. There aren't any new rumours on the Kesler front. The team has always been pretty tight lipped about it, and some media folks are predicting it'll drag on past the draft because the Canuck's asking price is sky high. Ultimately I think it gets done in the next couple days because the team's new tag line is 'CHANGE IS COMING' (actually) and the fan base aren't going to buy the whole 'the coach is the reset' thing a second time. Plus no one is in the mood for another Luongo saga.
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 14:54 |
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ThinkTank posted:Because the Canucks would probably want to use 6+10 to move up to 1st overall. Honestly, I could care less. If moving the 10th pick means we don't lose any significant roster players than I'm all for it. And the Canucks would look pretty alright as far as offensive prospects go with Horvat and Reinhart in the system. The only issue then would be finding who to play with Kes, since all our top 6 wingers are shoot first kind of guys.
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 15:01 |
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I want the Oilers to get Ho Sang but there is 0 chance of that ever happening after Omark and Schremp
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 15:02 |
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I will always love Linus Omark
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 15:59 |
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ThinkTank posted:Ho-Sang's mad dangles barely work against OHLers, I find it very hard to believe he'll be an effective pro player. Kane is a similarish player, but is effective because he knows how to distribute the puck and only busts out the high skill stuff when teams aren't expecting it. Ho-Sang tries it shift in and shift out and defences just knowto back off him and let him lose the puck in his feet. He could be a good top six guy if a team is patient with him and lets him develop with a coach who won't insist he suddenly turn into a two way guy when he doesn't immediately make it as a scorer. That's not going to happen though and he'll be playing in Frolunda before he's 26. sounds not all that dissimilar to the poo poo that people were saying about subban when he was 19 to be honest. i don't know that i'd take him in the top 10, but i'd certainly be happy if montreal took him with their pick.
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 17:08 |
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Zamboni Jesus posted:sounds not all that dissimilar to the poo poo that people were saying about subban when he was 19 to be honest. i don't know that i'd take him in the top 10, but i'd certainly be happy if montreal took him with their pick. Oh I don't think he's a bad pick by any means. I value skill over anything else, but he needs a lot of proper coaching and the default "you need to play defence because you aren't a top six guy yet" thing probably won't work with him.
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 17:12 |
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I am pleased that Hunter Shinkaruk is considered so disposable by the Canucks organization. Judging by his current career trajectory, he's going to be shovelling snow at ECHL games on his 24th birthday
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 17:49 |
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So how far does Ehlers fall? Out of the top 5? I think he's easily on par with the other top picks of the draft.
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# ? Jun 26, 2014 17:54 |
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Austrian mook posted:So how far does Ehlers fall? Out of the top 5? I think he's easily on par with the other top picks of the draft. yeah certainly. nylander probably goes before ehlers and theres The Top 5 before those two, probably Guignol posted:I am pleased that Hunter Shinkaruk is considered so disposable by the Canucks organization. Judging by his current career trajectory, he's going to be shovelling snow at ECHL games on his 24th birthday no hes gonna score goals in the nhl edit: FOR THE CANUCKS Austrian mook posted:Honestly, I could care less. If moving the 10th pick means we don't lose any significant roster players than I'm all for it. And the Canucks would look pretty alright as far as offensive prospects go with Horvat and Reinhart in the system. The only issue then would be finding who to play with Kes, since all our top 6 wingers are shoot first kind of guys. i figure the trade's gonna look like (if it even happens) 10th + theodore or 10/24/one of anaheims stupid 3rd line prospect forwards everyone drools over
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# ? Jun 27, 2014 01:54 |
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Columbus would like your team's pick if you're between #1 and #15, but Aaron Portzline says Jarmo's gonna hang up on you if you ask for Johansen, so don't do it.
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# ? Jun 27, 2014 04:47 |
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Verviticus posted:i figure the trade's gonna look like (if it even happens) 10th + theodore or 10/24/one of anaheims stupid 3rd line prospect forwards everyone drools over it will be emmersen etem and he will almost definitely not be the player the canucks think he will be. (see: Smith Pelly, Devente) E: Or Kassian, for that matter
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# ? Jun 27, 2014 04:59 |
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Ho-Sang would be a worthwhile pick in the 2nd I figure. He's said to have top-5 talent this draft. If a team can get him to buy in, they could be laughing.
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# ? Jun 27, 2014 06:41 |
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There are definitely safer picks but I hope the Sharks take him at 20 if he's available (they won't)
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# ? Jun 27, 2014 06:46 |
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Austrian mook posted:it will be emmersen etem and he will almost definitely not be the player the canucks think he will be. (see: Smith Pelly, Devente) yeah i dont get the hype over any of anaheims loving forward prospects. they're all bottom six guys
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# ? Jun 27, 2014 07:56 |
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Relevant: a nice Craig Cutsance profile on Josh Ho-Sang: http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/11132294/nhl-josh-ho-sang-ultra-skilled-well-rounded-frustrating quote:"He's the most skilled player in North America. He's the most skilled player to ever come through Windsor," Rychel said, with one caveat. "Skilled player, but not the most complete player."
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# ? Jun 27, 2014 09:59 |
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i'm going to the islanders draft party and i am extremely stoked because the draft is my favorite thing of the year every year i'm really hoping that if the islanders flip their pick they get something really good back and i am hoping that if they do not that they draft dal colle unless bennett or reinhart drops to them. if they stretched a little and picked ehlers or nylander though i wouldn't be upset with those picks at all. please don't pick ritchie or perlini or virtanen.
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# ? Jun 27, 2014 10:22 |
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please pick virtanen, islanders
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# ? Jun 27, 2014 10:46 |
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i guess virtanen is somewhat encouraging because he can skate and isn't your typical overrated grinder who can score in junior for that reason but i really strongly doubt he has top 6 upside. could be a very good 3rd liner but that's all i see.
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# ? Jun 27, 2014 11:24 |
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Who's excited for 3 1/2 hours of thanking the city of Philadelphia, congratulating the Kings, TV analysts looking at their phone live on air, Pierre making alarming excited noises and teenagers with cystic acne looking simultaneously proud and cripplingly embarrassed? I know I am. e: For the love of god someone draft Nathan Walker this year. I need to see the first Australian NHLer. ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Jun 27, 2014 |
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Hand Knit posted:Relevant: a nice Craig Cutsance profile on Josh Ho-Sang: Draft him Hexy.
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# ? Jun 27, 2014 14:49 |
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Hand Knit posted:Relevant: a nice Craig Cutsance profile on Josh Ho-Sang: lol in what loving world does idolizing a guy that chokes women and beat cab drivers up, and publically talking about how much you wanna make the NHL so you can get wasted and pop bottles make you a "well rounded" individual. I wouldn't touch Patrick O'Sullivan 2.0 here with a ten foot clown pole
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# ? Jun 27, 2014 15:46 |
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Paulocaust posted:lol in what loving world does idolizing a guy that chokes women and beat cab drivers up, and publically talking about how much you wanna make the NHL so you can get wasted and pop bottles make you a "well rounded" individual. I wouldn't touch Patrick O'Sullivan 2.0 here with a ten foot clown pole quote:Ho-Sang sees a bit of himself in the way that Patrick Kane plays, but also loves how Kane embraces life off the ice, even when it gets him in trouble. You pretty much ignored the entire context part there at the end.
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# ? Jun 27, 2014 15:58 |
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Grimby posted:You pretty much ignored the entire context part there at the end. Lol yeah I'm sure the 18 year old OHLer that is admittedly a big fan of Johnny Manziel and Patrick Kane's off ice behavior doesn't like to party and isnt just saying that to help his stock. Also I have a bridge in Brooklyn I would like to sell you.
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# ? Jun 27, 2014 16:07 |
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Paulocaust posted:Lol yeah I'm sure the 18 year old OHLer that is admittedly a big fan of Johnny Manziel and Patrick Kane's off ice behavior doesn't like to party and isnt just saying that to help his stock. Also I have a bridge in Brooklyn I would like to sell you. It sounded like he was trying to say that he isn't a fan of their specific antics so much as their willingness to engage in those antics rather than conform to expected off ice norms, which one could argue is a fairly mature perspective, if it wasn't for everything else in that piece. That said, his choice of idols would definitely make me hesitant about the possible habits he could develop, assuming he hasn't already, if he hits the big time. And that said, if the skill is as good as stated (to be honest, the highlights I've seen haven't blown me away), I'd still take a flyer on the kid and work on his attitude. Lots of sixteen year olds are morons.
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# ? Jun 27, 2014 16:18 |
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a false posted:please don't pick ritchie or perlini or virtanen. So these are basically the three names I keep hearing for Carolina at 7. Should I be upset if this happens?
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# ? Jun 27, 2014 16:18 |
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The Bunk posted:So these are basically the three names I keep hearing for Carolina at 7. Should I be upset if this happens? if ehlers and nylander and fabbri are on the table, i would be. sometimes you will get a good power forward out of the players that project that way in the first round but kids who just score a ton in junior, even if they have no defensive game to speak of, have a way better chance of panning out. another good one to keep an eye on is kevin fiala who has been projected all over the first round - i've seen him top 10 and i've also seen him in the late 20s.
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# ? Jun 27, 2014 16:23 |
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Why is anyone upset at Josh Ho-Sang for saying he likes to party? Every teenage athlete on the planet parties, hell every teenager on the planet parties. I'm glad he doesn't just pretend he enters a period of stasis between hockey games like every other player out there.
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# ? Jun 27, 2014 16:30 |