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I was about two years ago an Atheist, but suddenly understood the deep truths in de entire Bible, which is the Word of God. I want to explain my reasons for conversion, from going from atheist to theist. 1. The Holocaust. When I saw Chindlers List that movie it made a deep impact on my mind. I kind of strayed from life for years. After that, I became an atheist, always thinking of that movie, which for me was absolute proof of the non-existence of god and the total falsehood of Christian theology. But now I understand God was at the end of his power, and did what he could as much as he can, but in the end of WW2 too much suffering was caused and many people lost their faith. I now understand God tried but maybe failed, but I still belief in him, because he at least tried at his absolute maximum. 2. Warfare and excessive suffering. The world if not perfect, but made in fullness, as some protestants say. Warfare: Most of it is all done by human hands but steered by the plan of God, to move and twist and turn entire nations, to finalize thing as best as possible. God does as much good as he can, but cannot do any more. And so, I now understand God, and can belief in Him. 3. Pains from my youth. I had a difficult childhood, and repressed childhood memories and anger and hate in my heart kept me from finding true faith in God of the Bible. I have solved these troubling issues now mostly, and so now I can finally belief. 4. The Bible & Christianity. Christianity is not a stupid religion for the blind that follow the blind, but a gift from God to humanity. It's beautifull, deep, and truthfull. Everything makes sense, if you look at it from a different way. 5. Atheism, is, in my humble opion--and I mean it--a disease of the soul, called godlessness. If you take away the dark veils of atheism surrounding the soul, the soul will find faith again, because the created, the soul, deep inside wants to know and belief in its Creator. May the Holy Spirit give you peace. Who disagrees with my reasons? HumbleBeforeYou fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Jun 26, 2014 |
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HumbleBeforeYou posted:I was about two years ago an Atheist, but suddenly understood the deep truths in de entire Bible, which is the Word of God. I want to explain my reasons for conversion, from going from atheist to theist. **Grabs popcorn** Oh man this is going to be awesome.
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Your God is a dick.
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i converted to christianity because i heard jesus has really dank weed
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HumbleBeforeYou posted:I was about two years ago an Atheist, but suddenly understood the deep truths in de entire Bible, which is the Word of God. I want to explain my reasons for conversion, from going from atheist to theist. Source your quotes, dude. Or at least bother to proofread.
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So did you intend to use the poo poo POST tag? Because if not it was divine providence as that is how this thread will end up.
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Deuce posted:Your God is a dick. May I ask what your belief is: atheism or theism, or something else like agnosticism or pantheism, etc.?
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SubponticatePoster posted:So did you intend to use the poo poo POST tag? Because if not it was divine providence as that is how this thread will end up. The future is uncertain sometimes: don't be so sure then about that 
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HumbleBeforeYou posted:The future is uncertain sometimes: don't be so sure then about that 
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When things inevitably go badly for you, are you planning on cribbing your responses in secret from a Christian forum somewhere like the last guy who tried this sort of thing?
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When did D&D become E/N
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Captain_Maclaine posted:When things inevitably go badly for you, are you planning on cribbing your responses in secret from a Christian forum somewhere like the last guy who tried this sort of thing? No, in honesty I am not pulling this from somewhere: I now and then go to the Reformed Protestant Church in the Netherlands and listen to the preacher, who spoke about fullness of creation instead of perfection. All thought are mine, and from the Bible of course; I say this before Christendom.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:When things inevitably go badly for you, are you planning on cribbing your responses in secret from a Christian forum somewhere like the last guy who tried this sort of thing? Woah there, the guy with the hard authoritarian retro-Catholic gimmick was hilarious and it's a shame he gave it up. This is more cobbling together bad arguments to piss off atheists, which is less hilarious and more sad.
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HumbleBeforeYou posted:I was about two years ago an Atheist, but suddenly understood the deep truths in de entire Bible, which is the Word of God. I want to explain my reasons for conversion, from going from atheist to theist. Isn't God supposed to be omnipotent? How could he be at the end of his power? Did he run out of mana potions?
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how do you feel about islams
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Uranium Phoenix posted:Isn't God supposed to be omnipotent? How could he be at the end of his power? Did he run out of mana potions? I can not use the emperical scientific method to proof this, so ultimately it is based on faith, not purely reason. But no: I belief God the Creator of heaven and earth is not omnipotent, but extremely powerful, but found his match, for the first time in history, against the Nazis, his ultimate enemy, and is, in my opinon, the ultimate evil that ever crawled the earth. HumbleBeforeYou fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jun 26, 2014 |
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Jun 26, 2014 22:45
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Fandyien posted:how do you feel about islams Brothers of Christendom; the Angel that revealed to Muhammed the truths of the Koran also reveals to Christian chosen ones. There is a strong bond, but not many on both sides see this unfortunately. Terrorists are evil: other Islamists are good people.
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Someday a worthy successor to Toblerone Triangular will be found. Today is not that day.
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SubponticatePoster posted:Someday a worthy successor to Toblerone Triangular will be found. Tell me about him please, if needed in short. I'm interested
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Jun 26, 2014 22:49
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OP, are you Lee Strobel? You have about as much sanity.
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HumbleBeforeYou posted:I can not use the emperical scientific method to proof this, so ultimately it is based on faith, not purely reason. Setting aside the fact that you're pulling things out of your rear end, how do you deal with the contradiction between your belief and what the bible says?
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EightBit posted:OP, are you Lee Strobel? You have about as much sanity. How do you define sanity?
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HumbleBeforeYou posted:Tell me about him please, if needed in short. I'm interested He was our greatest prophet. He wasn't the poster we needed, he was the poster we deserved.
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op can you confirm or deny whether the church knows where i can score primo cheeba?
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HumbleBeforeYou posted:Tell me about him please, if needed in short. I'm interested
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D&D turned into GBS 
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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HumbleBeforeYou posted:I can not use the emperical scientific method to proof this, so ultimately it is based on faith, not purely reason. So God is like Superman, Hitler is his Lex luthor and lack of faith is his Kryptonite?
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Uranium Phoenix posted:Setting aside the fact that you're pulling things out of your rear end, how do you deal with the contradiction between your belief and what the bible says? Jeremiah 32:27 ESV / 60 helpful votes “Behold, I am the Lord, the God of all flesh. Is anything too hard for me? My anwser: Yes, WW2 was. The Bible is 2 Thousand years old. The Catholic faith and the Bible are different in some ways.
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HumbleBeforeYou posted:But no: I belief God the Creator of heaven and earth is not omnipotent, but extremely powerful, but found his match, for the first time in history, against the Nazis, his ultimate enemy, and, in my opion, the ultimate evil that ever crawled the earth. Among others, Jesus says in Matthew 19:26, "with God all things are possible." You must know better than Jesus how powerful God is. Do you like tests? El Kabong fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Jun 26, 2014 |
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HumbleBeforeYou posted:Tell me about him please, if needed in short. I'm interested I knew TobleroneTriangular. TobleroneTriangular trolled me and threatened my life. You sir, are no TobleroneTriangular. He was an LF-era icon who showed how to do a long-con troll and do it well, by pretending to be an foaming-at-the-mouth insane Ron Paul supporter for months on end without breaking character or, more importantly, becoming boring. SubponticatePoster posted:Truly the gold standard of posters. Ahem, the purestrain gold standard of posters.
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Church posted:**Grabs popcorn** Oh man this is going to be awesome. There has to be the right balance of stupidity and intelligence to lead to an entertainingly dumb thread. This one does not have that balance.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I knew TobleroneTriangular. TobleroneTriangular trolled me and threatened my life. You sir, are no TobleroneTriangular. Promise: I will not post for more then 2 or 3 days. I get tired easily honestly, stressed out quickly. This is not meant as trolling, but a true decleration and argumentation of my faith.
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HumbleBeforeYou posted:This is not meant as trolling, but a true decleration and argumentation of my faith. You're doing neither any favors, then.
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Been a while since the last religion thread here; I think that one was BrandorKP?HumbleBeforeYou posted:I was about two years ago an Atheist, but suddenly understood the deep truths in de entire Bible, which is the Word of God. I want to explain my reasons for conversion, from going from atheist to theist.  Welcome to the forums.quote:1. The Holocaust. When I saw Chindlers List that movie it made a deep impact on my mind. I kind of strayed from life for years. After that, I became an atheist, always thinking of that movie, which for me was absolute proof of the non-existence of god and the total falsehood of Christian theology. But now I understand God was at the end of his power, and did what he could as much as he can, but in the end of WW2 too much suffering was caused and many people lost their faith. I now understand God tried but maybe failed, but I still belief in him, because he at least tried at his absolute maximum. Are you looking at it from a Problem of Evil / Free Will perspective and that's why God can only do a certain amount of good? Because I don't find those arguments convincing evidence of a deity, only hotly debated theories of a hypothetical God / gods that hinges on debates of what the meaning of omnipotence is, which utterly ignores the primary question at hand of whether or not a deity exists, much less your deity. quote:3. Pains from my youth. I had a difficult childhood, and repressed childhood memories and anger and hate in my heart kept me from finding true faith in God of the Bible. I have solved these troubling issues now mostly, and so now I can finally belief. Sorry to hear that. Coming to terms with personal problems from youth is a difficult process that a lot of people never really find any semblance of closure on because human psychology is a complicated and nuanced process. Ultimately though your state of mind doesn't change the truth value of a proposition; it's entirely possible that the old you that held hate in your heart was in fact correct about the existence or nonexistence of God, and thus it's not relevant to the question. quote:4. The Bible & Christianity. Christianity is not a stupid religion for the blind that follow the blind, but a gift from God to humanity. It's beautifull, deep, and truthfull. Everything makes sense, if you look at it from a different way. If "a different way" is not testable, repeatable independent experiments about predictions and hypotheses that prove true then the factuality of your claims are not particularly convincing or well supported here. If it is testable, repeatable independent experiments about predictions and hypotheses that prove true, by all means please explain. quote:5. Atheism, is, in my humble opion--and I mean it--a disease of the soul, called godlessness. If you take away the dark veils of atheism surrounding the soul, the soul will find faith again, because the created, the soul, deep inside wants to know and belief in its Creator. Again, this doesn't have anything to say about whether your belief is a valid and accurate and true representation of the world we inhabit or not.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:You're doing neither any favors, then. Faith is not always about favor: God comes through the wound sometimes, not everything has to be pleasurable in life.
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I converted from atheism to unitarian. Am I still a heathen? 
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HumbleBeforeYou posted:But now I understand God was at the end of his power, and did what he could as much as he can, but in the end of WW2 too much suffering was caused and many people lost their faith. I now understand God tried but maybe failed, but I still belief in him, because he at least tried at his absolute maximum. So god is dead I guess? Just keep going and you'll be back to atheism in no time.
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HumbleBeforeYou posted:Faith is not always about favor: God comes through the wound sometimes, not everything has to be pleasurable in life. That's a good attitude to have, considering what you're in for.
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Jurassic Park is a much better movie than Schindler's List.
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