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baw posted:true but they had their own rational-seeming motivations and political pressures on the island. japan was kinda pissed at europe because europe called them poo poo heads for "colonizing" mainland china (where they often treated the locals better and granted more autonomy than than european colonial powers did) even though the west had been doing it for years The Japs coulda conquered the world if only they could have controlled their colonial occupations.
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redshirt posted:The Japs coulda conquered the world if only they could have controlled their colonial occupations. Nah, they sucked terribly at logistics and their industrial output wasn't ready for prime time (for example, nearly every effort they made to supplant the A6M Zero.)
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baw posted:true but they had their own rational-seeming motivations and political pressures on the island. japan was kinda pissed at europe because europe called them poo poo heads for "colonizing" mainland china (where they often treated the locals better and granted more autonomy than than european colonial powers did) even though the west had been doing it for years yea they were all buthurt about being confined by the washington naval conference and poo poo. i'm interested in their moral justificaitions though because my professor was talking about the japanese selling the war at home as an anti-colonial conflict. i knew they distributed tons of pan-asian propaganda in places they conquered and then horrifically raped but i was surprised to learn they actually tried to convince japanese people in the homeland that transparent bullshit was true  rejiriōed: also the japanese were way wrse to the chinese than the english, i should have read ur dumbpost more carefully Frog Act fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Jun 28, 2014 |
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redshirt posted:The Japs coulda conquered the world if only they could have controlled their colonial occupations. you didnt answer my question i asked you which one you were reading! rear end in a top hat!
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Jun 28, 2014 06:20
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how many indias would you rate the japanese empire in terms of rape
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Jun 28, 2014 06:20
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ay mang u ever drawn up military plans while popping speed and listenin to wagner
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Jun 28, 2014 06:21
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gently caress trophy 2k14 posted:how many indias would you rate the japanese empire in terms of rape two or three for sure they pretty much raped everyone. like only japanese atrocities get called the "rape of _____"
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baw posted:true but they had their own rational-seeming motivations and political pressures on the island. japan was kinda pissed at europe because europe called them poo poo heads for "colonizing" mainland china (where they often treated the locals better and granted more autonomy than than european colonial powers did) even though the west had been doing it for years i dont know poo poo about the opium wars but as bad as europe was i don't think they topped the twenty million japan killed
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Jun 28, 2014 06:28
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Fandyien posted:seems to me like the japanese were particualrly evil for no real good reason There's a reason, we enjoy that poo poo
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Jun 28, 2014 06:30
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The rape of nanking owns because there are politicians in japan who still deny it
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Jun 28, 2014 06:31
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japanese politicians own because you can troll the hell out of them by walking up and going "hey comfort women were real"
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Jun 28, 2014 06:34
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That Miyazaki movie about the guy who designed the A6M Zero was pretty good. True story, my grandfather fought in WW2 for the Germans, got captured and spent most of the war in a Soviet prison camp
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Jun 28, 2014 06:39
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paranoid randroid posted:imperial german army > wehrmacht  Better style too.
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Jun 28, 2014 06:50
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the german empire was boss if they had just been a little more chll about mittleuropa and the kaiser hadn't been such a prancing retard the world would be way better
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Jun 28, 2014 06:50
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"if the english land on our soil, i will have them arrested" imperial german sass, best german sass. the nazis were too busy huffing paint and carving norse runestones in their back garden to even attempt bon mots.
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Jun 28, 2014 06:54
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the battle for monte casino was loving brutal hurtgen forest battle was also loving brutal any russian/german battle was also loving brutal war is poo poo, but people do it really well
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Jun 28, 2014 06:54
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w0ppy71 posted:Best loving uniforms, that's for sure. Those SS guys were snappy dressers. gestapo uniforms were the real pinnacle imo hugo boss made their uniforms but hugo boss suits i've tried on really suck and seem designed for people with tiny shoulders
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Jun 28, 2014 07:41
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baw posted:true but they had their own rational-seeming motivations and political pressures on the island. japan was kinda pissed at europe because europe called them poo poo heads for "colonizing" mainland china (where they often treated the locals better and granted more autonomy than than european colonial powers did) even though the west had been doing it for years pause
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Jun 28, 2014 07:44
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beevor is a hack
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my favorite part of ww2 is hungary switching sides like three times during the war and getting their rear end kicked the entire time
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baw posted:true but they had their own rational-seeming motivations and political pressures on the island. japan was kinda pissed at europe because europe called them poo poo heads for "colonizing" mainland china (where they often treated the locals better and granted more autonomy than than european colonial powers did) even though the west had been doing it for years tojo did nothing wrong
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Jun 28, 2014 07:57
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baw posted:japan was kinda pissed at europe because europe called them poo poo heads for "colonizing" mainland china (where they often treated the locals better and granted more autonomy than than european colonial powers did) even though the west had been doing it for years Are you loving retarded?
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Jun 28, 2014 08:34
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"they didn't like the US so they must have been good" -too many retards
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Jun 28, 2014 08:35
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hitler accomplished more things and got more hot aryan rear end than any goon ever will. if you think about it, hitler was better than all of us
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Jun 28, 2014 08:41
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that post would probably be accepted in d&d
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Jun 28, 2014 08:42
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WW2... WW3.... WWE
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Jun 28, 2014 08:42
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turns out finland was actually pretty scrappy
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Jun 28, 2014 08:49
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Space Jam posted:turns out finland was actually pretty scrappy dudes are willing to sit up a tree for three days in a blizzard just to shoot someone in the neck. im not about to go looking to gently caress with them.
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Neurosis posted:that post would probably be accepted in d&d lol have you ever read the american history thread there? Thats par
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Jun 28, 2014 08:59
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no brazil in the poll voted 1 gas thread ban op
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Jun 28, 2014 09:05
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yeah finland definitely doesn't gently caress around and they had a crazy amount of sharpshooters. Simo Hayha had 505 confirmed kills with a mosin nagant. He has like 200+ unconfirmed with an SMG. He averaged a minimum 5 kills a day in a place where sunlight wasn't plentiful and IR goggles weren't the norm.
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RonMexicosPitbull posted:Are you loving retarded? the point about colonial treatment was referring to the acquisition of manchuria in 1932, where there was little armed resistence and no atrocities. it was condemned by the league of nations (even though the US had recognized japanese hegemony there since 1908.) the stimson doctrine under hoover said that the US would not recognise any territory imposed on china by force. given the history of of the roosevelts, FDR wholeheartedly backed the stimson doctrine. japan's "over the line" moment is considered to be in the 1937 excursion, not original manchurian colonization
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looks like most of the stuff being discussed here has come from cracked articles anyway so i shouldn't be too surprised at the ignorance 5 Real-Life Bad rear end Snipers that Put the Guy in the Movie "Enemy at the Gates" to Shame
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Jun 28, 2014 09:36
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baw that sounds like a good buzzfeed article
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Four Famous Fashion Designers that Designed Uniforms for the Nazis
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THS posted:every night i go to sleep thinking about how imperial germany should have won the first world war same, but with ww2
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baw posted:the point about colonial treatment was referring to the acquisition of manchuria in 1932, where there was little armed resistence and no atrocities. it was condemned by the league of nations (even though the US had recognized japanese hegemony there since 1908.) the stimson doctrine under hoover said that the US would not recognise any territory imposed on china by force. lol ffs dude
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Jun 28, 2014 09:44
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Morkyz posted:same, but with ww2 hosed up if true
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RonMexicosPitbull posted:lol ffs dude also of note is that by 1940 the situation in china had become a quagmire which toppled the government (the third in two years) the military took it upon themselves to install an army-dominated government which then tried to expedite the war so that japan could be economically independent the US did not have a hand in the fall of the government, but the american embassy in tokyo did urge that the US soften its stance towards manchuria so that the politicians could have more leverage to prevent the military coup. whether or not this is would have made a difference is open to speculation. the important thing is that this military coup is what put general hideki tojo into power
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baw posted:also of note is that by 1940 the situation in china had become a quagmire which toppled the government (the third in two years) the military took it upon themselves to install an army-dominated government which then tried to expedite the war so that japan could be economically independent ok you are sick in the head or are so self hating that the deaths of millions of people are pawns in this desparate narrative of yours. also at "open for speculation" just stfu lol
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