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rotor posted:yes and those people are stupid well yeah, obviously they still believe that poo poo, but the polite, educated, and white way way of dealing with it is to never talk about it in public. their real crime is making it obvious how lovely educated rich
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Jun 29, 2014 23:04
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I'm a white male who makes a lot of money programming computers. I listen to podcasts.
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Jun 29, 2014 23:09
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FMguru posted:next stebe is the worst because a lot of "founders" buy into the myth of stebe, which they interpret to mean being a complete rear end in a top hat to everyone, because stebe was a complete rear end in a top hat to everyone and look at all the success he had! i think that the "founders" who are trying to emulate stebe must have heard him described at one point as an enfant terrible and they just took the meaning literally.
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Jun 29, 2014 23:11
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Gazpacho posted:its me, i;m the real FM guru tell me
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Jun 29, 2014 23:11
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now that is a joke that it takes a formal education to make.
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Gazpacho posted:i don't suppose it matters in your (James) Randian worldview that i don't listen to those particular programs. it's such a terrible thing, if you turn on the radio in the bay you might hear something that (1) isn't top 40 (2) doesn't glorify european culture (3) deviates from the washington PR lines yes but we're talking about pacifica
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Jun 29, 2014 23:15
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phony poser FMguru focused this on pacifica not me
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Jun 29, 2014 23:16
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Sagebrush posted:i think that the "founders" who are trying to emulate stebe must have heard him described at one point as an enfant terrible and they just took the meaning literally. there are a lot of business lessons you can take from stebes life and career (sweat the details, question assumptions, look for new markets instead of crashing into long-settled ones, etc), but the one they chose was "be a unreasonable, demanding, manipulative rear end in a top hat to everyone at all times, and your success will be automatic", not quite realizing that trick doesnt work unless you have all of stebes other virtues running alongside it scott forstall (the irl one, not the yosposter) tried that in stebes absence and he ended up on the street a year later lmfao
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Jun 29, 2014 23:18
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Fabricated posted:
to be fair all those things sound terrible
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Jun 29, 2014 23:23
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Gazpacho posted:phony poser FMguru focused this on pacifica not me why is that?
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Jun 29, 2014 23:23
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because it would be off topic dueder, i'm sure you'd love to see me walk into a probation with rotor right here but nah
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Jun 29, 2014 23:24
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FMguru posted:why is that? yospos bithc
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Jun 29, 2014 23:32
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Fabricated posted:What do you MEAN I don't have 25 $10 cocktail bars to choose from any given night!? lol if you think there are any $10 cocktail bars in sf that or cocktail bars in dc are approaching manhattan levels of pricing faster than sf 
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Jun 29, 2014 23:33
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you can find $10 cocktail bars in sf. not right next to union square or in soma or whatever but there are several i can think of. and some in the $11-12 range that are just fantastic
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Jun 29, 2014 23:35
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theadder posted:yospos bithc
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Jun 29, 2014 23:38
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FMguru posted:p much they also forget that stebe spent a lot of time running companies into the ground when he didn't have proper bases to work from
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Jun 29, 2014 23:42
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mishaq posted:lol if you think there are any $10 cocktail bars in sf
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Jun 29, 2014 23:43
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Gazpacho posted:because it would be off topic dueder, i'm sure you'd love to see me walk into a probation with rotor right here but nah Forums Rules of Conduct
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Jun 29, 2014 23:43
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Post the stations and stop calling other people posers
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Jun 29, 2014 23:44
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NeXT stebe ideology also forgets, or misconstrues, the fact that he once clobbered apples bottom line on purpose while chasing his sexycomputer dream and suffered consequences
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Jun 29, 2014 23:50
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the wilderness years
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Jun 29, 2014 23:54
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i don't have a facebook account is the new i don't have a tv
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Gazpacho posted:NeXT stebe ideology also forgets, or misconstrues, the fact that he once clobbered apples bottom line on purpose while chasing his sexycomputer dream and suffered consequences NeXT was a failed company that would have liquidated if not for the apple acquisition
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Jun 30, 2014 00:01
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I have a magazine cover story about the NeXT rollout w the following tidbits: - he had the factory painting process redone several times because it produced a finish he didn't like - during the press demo he would say thing like "I really like this shade of green" (the screen phosphor color) and his entourage of yes-men would agree that it was, indeed, an ideal shade of green Secrets of success
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Jun 30, 2014 00:09
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the yospos green??????
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Jun 30, 2014 00:10
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This is why yospos gets no venture capital. The background is ever so slightly the wrong shade of black
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Jun 30, 2014 00:13
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Gazpacho posted:- he had the factory painting process redone several times because it produced a finish he didn't like yes, this attitude is why apple products don't look like poo poo and fall apart and all the paint wears off and the metal is just silver painted plastic that breaks after a month like a pc. it is a good thing. Gazpacho posted:- during the press demo he would say thing like "I really like this shade of green" (the screen phosphor color) and his entourage of yes-men would agree that it was, indeed, an ideal shade of green this doesn't reflect poorly on the products, though
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Jun 30, 2014 00:14
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Sagebrush posted:yes, this attitude is why apple products don't look like poo poo and fall apart and all the paint wears off and the metal is just silver painted plastic that breaks after a month like a pc. it is a good thing. except apple products do look like poo poo and do fall apart constantly, to the point that there needs to be a specialized network of stores to fix them
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Jun 30, 2014 00:18
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Sagebrush posted:
yes it does, the products were and are bad
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Nintendo Kid posted:except apple products do look like poo poo and do fall apart constantly, to the point that there needs to be a specialized network of stores to fix them he's on a roll!
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Jun 30, 2014 00:19
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Gazpacho posted:This is why yospos gets no venture capital. The background is ever so slightly the wrong shade of black let us pray to ive that he might alter the css
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Jun 30, 2014 00:33
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Gazpacho posted:Are you using the phrase in some special sense because in the literal sense yes there are, at particular times anyway when i think cocktail bar though i think artisanal places with super specailty cocktails, not bars where i can order a rum and coke for < $10 dc certainly does not have anything like that for under  except maybe happy hour
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Jun 30, 2014 00:34
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well I paid 12bux for a maitai last night in sf and have paid similarly at other downtown places but those are at ticketed music events so perhaps not relevant to what you mean
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Jun 30, 2014 00:41
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If it were not for Apple's success and hero worship it inspired I cannot imagine that the jobs micromanaging rear end in a top hat personality would get you very far with Vcs so in a way Steve is to blame for tech going from being filled with dreamy eyed but partially clueless geeks stumbling upon worth to a honeypot for misanthropic libertarian narcissists backstabbing the poo poo out of anyone in their way. Which is wonderful because it will make the bubble implosion that much more enjoyable to watch.
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Jun 30, 2014 00:43
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mishaq posted:when i think cocktail bar though i think artisanal places with super specailty cocktails, not bars where i can order a rum and coke for < $10 Definitely not less than $10 but have you been to PX in Alexandria? Some serious skill there.
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Jun 30, 2014 00:44
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i dunno what i mean but i always just assume laughably overpriced things in dc are just slightly more laughably overpriced in the bay area who knows maybe we're ahead at this point
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Jun 30, 2014 00:45
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Shifty Pony posted:If it were not for Apple's success and hero worship it inspired I cannot imagine that the jobs micromanaging rear end in a top hat personality would get you very far with Vcs so in a way Steve is to blame for tech going from being filled with dreamy eyed but partially clueless geeks stumbling upon worth to a honeypot for misanthropic libertarian narcissists backstabbing the poo poo out of anyone in their way. Which is wonderful because it will make the bubble implosion that much more enjoyable to watch. my theory is that jobs wasn't especially good at doing whatever tech ceos are supposed to do, but he tried a bunch of times and hit the lottery jackpot once, so everybody decided that he was a genius 
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Jun 30, 2014 00:50
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Libertarianism was a thing in the valley before jobs returned to Apple and before he demonstrated success again, either created or blown up to new proportions by the American dream / "Wall Street is on your side" tropes that dominated during the 90s
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prefect posted:my theory is that jobs wasn't especially good at doing whatever tech ceos are supposed to do, but he tried a bunch of times and hit the lottery jackpot once, so everybody decided that he was a genius Jobs Theorist
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