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LifeSizePotato
Mar 3, 2005

Germstore posted:

I don't see what's disrespectful about that scene.

the point is, i don't remember them doing anything for phil hartman except i think a "1955-1998" or whatever thing at the credits

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coolskull
Nov 11, 2007

Absalom Baird posted:

I'm engaged in a project to deduce which state(s) Springfield could possibly be in. But wait! I have a novel approach. Instead of looking for clues to CONFIRM, I instead look for clues to eliminate.

For instance, in the episode "Bart's Comet", Bart says, "Race you to Utah, Milhouse". And in "They Saved Lisa's Brain", Dr Hibbert says "Maybe I should go back to Alabama". Thus, Springfield is not in Utah or Alabama.

Of course there is a distinct possibility that I will be able to use this method to eliminate EVERY state eventually...and I'm ok with that.

In one of the Simpsons comics Groening said they lived in "North Tacoma" so I'm happy with that answer

Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!

Germstore posted:

I don't see what's disrespectful about that scene.

By the way character/actress is dead haw haw.


Although now that a little time has passed since seeing it, it's not so bad. It's not like they could so easily just drop her from future episodes without explanation.

LifeSizePotato
Mar 3, 2005

huh, i didn't know this

quote:

At the time of his death, Hartman was preparing to voice Zapp Brannigan, a character written specifically for him on Groening's second animated series Futurama.[59] After Hartman's death, Futurama's lead character Philip J. Fry was named in his honor, and Billy West took over the role of Brannigan.[59] West later said that he purposely tweaked Zapp's voice to better match Hartman's intended portrayal.[59]

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



LifeSizePotato posted:

huh, i didn't know this

'At the time of his death' ...

Shot whilst doing Zapp lines, what a way to go.

J-Spot
May 7, 2002

The Monkey Man posted:

The jockey trolls was when I decided that I'd have to give up watching the show, although I didn't actually stop watching until that season was over.

Marathon any of the recent seasons and then watch the jockey troll episode and marvel at how much better it is. At least the voice actors and animation directors were still putting in a solid effort at that point.

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.


There's something weird about the Simpsons going to a super clean line art, just makes them look... weird, brings out the worst of the design which worked because it was so "scruffy", so to speak

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

Based on the pay scale listed on wikipedia, if you're one of the top voice actors on the show, like Harry Shearer guess how much money you've made since 1990?


If you said $92,305,000 you'd be close.

Roger Tangerines
Apr 15, 2013

by Debbie Metallica

LifeSizePotato posted:

the point is, i don't remember them doing anything for phil hartman except i think a "1955-1998" or whatever thing at the credits

exactly what send-off would you have liked them to give Phil Hartman's characters, sleazebag lawyer and washed-up actor? they weren't emotionally important to the show, didn't connect to any other characters and didn't need to be written out, unlike Flanders' wife.

it's weird to me that anyone could misunderstand that. That little farewell was entirely appropriate and nice. Just a shame that it came as a post-script to a ridiculous terrible episode.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine
The new opening is so bad. It's just references to old episodes.

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!

Big Beef City posted:

Based on the pay scale listed on wikipedia, if you're one of the top voice actors on the show, like Harry Shearer guess how much money you've made since 1990?


If you said $92,305,000 you'd be close.

Which is why I've said many times The Simpsons will end once the voice actors get too expensive (or if one of the major ones dies).

LifeSizePotato
Mar 3, 2005

Roger Tangerines posted:

exactly what send-off would you have liked them to give Phil Hartman's characters, sleazebag lawyer and washed-up actor? they weren't emotionally important to the show, didn't connect to any other characters and didn't need to be written out, unlike Flanders' wife.

it's weird to me that anyone could misunderstand that. That little farewell was entirely appropriate and nice. Just a shame that it came as a post-script to a ridiculous terrible episode.

Gutcruncher posted:

Remember when they treated Troy Mclure and Lionel Hutz with this sort of respect?

i was just interpreting what gutcruncher said, i don't care much one way or the other what they did for phil hartman, and i think marcia wallace's thing was nice

stratdax
Sep 14, 2006

Absalom Baird posted:

I'm engaged in a project to deduce which state(s) Springfield could possibly be in. But wait! I have a novel approach. Instead of looking for clues to CONFIRM, I instead look for clues to eliminate.

For instance, in the episode "Bart's Comet", Bart says, "Race you to Utah, Milhouse". And in "They Saved Lisa's Brain", Dr Hibbert says "Maybe I should go back to Alabama". Thus, Springfield is not in Utah or Alabama.

Of course there is a distinct possibility that I will be able to use this method to eliminate EVERY state eventually...and I'm ok with that.

West Springfield is three times the size of Texas. That should help narrow it down.

Shasta Orange Soda
Apr 25, 2007

literally the only simpsons thing in at least the last 5 years that's made me feel any emotion at all besides "gently caress you"

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
gently caress that, the Nelson I know wouldn't give a gently caress about Ms. Krabappel dying.

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.


So they killed Ned's wife and also Edna? haha, gently caress you Ned Flanders

Rambling Robot
Sep 13, 2011
Duggar Fan Club Superstar #1 LOL

Don Tacorleone posted:

So they killed Ned's wife and also Edna? haha, gently caress you Ned Flanders

Edna - The voice actor died from cancer at age 70.

It is time to end it when the teacher is voiced by a 70 year old.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

Don Tacorleone posted:

So they killed Ned's wife and also Edna? haha, gently caress you Ned Flanders

They should just make it a running joke now.

Irradiation
Sep 14, 2005

I understand your frustration.

Rambling Robot posted:

Edna - The voice actor died from cancer at age 70.

It is time to end it when the teacher is voiced by a 70 year old.

You never had a teacher in their 70s?

It's time to end it when a 10 year old is voiced by a 56 year old.

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

Justin Godscock posted:

Which is why I've said many times The Simpsons will end once the voice actors get too expensive (or if one of the major ones dies).

It'll be when they get too expensive. Harry Shearer has already started talking to the press about how much he'd be willing to give up for some of the syndication and DVD money, which they will never budge on, and given his periodic complaints about the declining quality and his failure to participate in some of the outside merchandising stuff, clear he's getting tired of it. Most long-running popular shows in which the actors still enjoy doing it only cancel because of the ballooning cast salaries and the Simpsons has only been immune because the actors have voluntarily accepted some pay cuts. There's going to be a point when Shearer is tired of doing that, and it will be Shearer, and from there, it will depend on how long it takes a second voice actor to jump off before it gets the axe.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine
If Shearer leaves the show is over. He's not just Homer, he's Mr. Burns, Smithers, Lovejoy, Flanders, and a bunch more.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

HJB posted:

i kinda wonder if kids love the new seasons and think they're as amazing as our generation considered seasons 3-8

also if they watch episodes from old seasons and wonder why the gently caress anyone would like that poo poo

no

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

latin american simpsons are the best simpsons matt groening said so

LifeSizePotato
Mar 3, 2005

have you guys ever watched the simpsons in another language

the voices sound so wrong and weird at first but you eventually get used to it. german homer sounds pretty right to me now. the spanish ones do a good job of sounding like the american voices mostly

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

babypolis posted:

latin american simpsons are the best simpsons matt groening said so

Was it before they fired the entire cast and hired awful soundalikes or after?

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

boom boom boom posted:

If Shearer leaves the show is over. He's not just Homer, he's Mr. Burns, Smithers, Lovejoy, Flanders, and a bunch more.

Shearer isn't Homer. He does play a ton of roles on the show, but none of them are actually in the Simpsons family and network executives would have zero compunctions about running the show without him if they felt like they could get two more seasons of decent Nielsens out of it. It depends on whether other members of the cast would drop or whether they've come to rely on the money.

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

Calaveron posted:

Was it before they fired the entire cast and hired awful soundalikes or after?

og cast of course. as if later day simpsons needed more reasons to be unwatchable

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

Remember when they made that cartoon dinosaur movie for kids like right after Jurassic Park and Yeardley Smith was in it and even children immediately went "That's Lisa Simpson, what is she doing in this dinosaur cartoon?" Someone put this in a Buzzfeed article about growing up in the 90s. Bangarang.

LifeSizePotato
Mar 3, 2005

i always felt bad for yeardley, her real voice is basically lisa simpson. she has to live with that.

pants in my pants
Aug 18, 2009

by Smythe
Yeardley Smith was also in Maximum Overdrive, which is a great horrible movie.

It costs almost $300k to air a 30-second ad during a new Simpsons episode.

I hope these two facts enlighten you all.

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

LifeSizePotato posted:

i always felt bad for yeardley, her real voice is basically lisa simpson. she has to live with that.

i'm sure she can console herself in the giant pile of money she has tho

Frostwerks
Sep 24, 2007

by Lowtax

Irradiation posted:

You never had a teacher in their 70s?

It's time to end it when a 10 year old is voiced by a 56 year old.

ĦAy, caramba!

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

SUCH IMPROVEMENT!

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Uncle Wemus posted:

SUCH IMPROVEMENT!



The difference in Marge's head turn alone is ridiculous and the new clean style really loses something of its personality

Facepalm Ranger
Jan 17, 2012

SOME PEOPLE FIND HOME APPLIANCES SEXUALLY AROUSING! ZORDS ARE NOT APPLIANCES, DAMMIT!

Uncle Wemus posted:

SUCH IMPROVEMENT!



This is the perfect example of the show's quality both in animation and writing.

Then: hand drawn, effort and personality injected into both the animation and models. Ie: even the shopping cart has personality!

Now: stiff, boring to look at, bad flash style animation. No bounce of springiness to the movements. Looks dead.

I'm watching treehouse of horror IV right now and it's got so many gems in it.

Skinner: "I heard a child is using his imagination and I've come to put a stop to it."

And in the Dracula segment

Homer: "oh Lisa, vampires are just make believe, like elves, gremlins and Eskimos!"

Lisa: "ew dad! This is blood!"
Homer: "correction, free blood!"

Ahhh good times, how did it all go wrong :unsmith:

Facepalm Ranger fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Jul 1, 2014

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
I always like Simpsons threads for the people who call themselves big fans of the show but have only seen ~40% of the episodes. It's almost as bad as Star Trek fans and their idea of "personal canon". Except worse because at least Star Trek fans never missed entire seasons.

Facepalm Ranger
Jan 17, 2012

SOME PEOPLE FIND HOME APPLIANCES SEXUALLY AROUSING! ZORDS ARE NOT APPLIANCES, DAMMIT!
Lisa becomes enamoured with a new girl at school who is sporty, athletic but also brainy. When Marge finds out she purposely sets up dates with boys for Lisa out of fear of never getting grandchildren. Mean while Bart becomes addicted to pornography and becomes a new visionary pornographer.

Guest starring Ellen page and Ron Jeremy.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

ok thx

Roger Tangerines
Apr 15, 2013

by Debbie Metallica

cheerfullydrab posted:

I always like Simpsons threads for the people who call themselves big fans of the show but have only seen ~40% of the episodes.

:goonsay:

there's no gate and you're not the gatekeeper

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MyronGognitti
Jun 15, 2008

by zen death robot

cheerfullydrab posted:

I always like Simpsons threads for the people who call themselves big fans of the show but have only seen ~40% of the episodes. It's almost as bad as Star Trek fans and their idea of "personal canon". Except worse because at least Star Trek fans never missed entire seasons.

it's kind of hard to be a "true fan" of the simpsons when there's more bad than good episodes at this point

Star Trek TNG had one bad season and few a sporadicly bad episodes here and there after it got good. It was never completely lopsided like the simpsons is

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