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That card shouldn't be a PPV if Aldo ain't on it. The best replacement they could hope for Mendes would be either Swanson or a quicker turnaround for the winner of Edgar/Penn, but that still ain't good enough for $60. Mousasi/Jacare is a solid fight but nobody is gonna purchase that. I wonder if they could quickly put together Barao/Dillashaw II.
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-Atom- posted:If they move Lawler vs. Brown I'm going to be loving livid. Nah that wouldn't help out the PPV as much as it would hurt that FOX card.
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Lol glad I waited to buy tickets to that. Also, comparing belts in MMA is dumb because they're not good indicators of grappling skill in MMA. Most likely Ronda will wade in and bully Davis in the clinch, maybe stop her with liver shots. I base this on her overall strength and athleticism and ability to control someone like McMann who is a good and strong wrestler.
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Apparently they are going to try to do Dillashaw/Barao 2 at the end of August, so that fight will most likely not replace Aldo/Mendes
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LobsterMobster posted:I like her and I like her tiny mascot buddy, Chompers, but I still think Ronda's probably got a 80% chance of winning. 
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Ogantai posted:Betting sites are giving Ronda 95% odds of winning, if you think it's only 80% you should definitely.... bet on MMA I'm dumb but I'm not that loving stupid.
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EricHall posted:Apparently they are going to try to do Dillashaw/Barao 2 at the end of August, so that fight will most likely not replace Aldo/Mendes In Sacramento no less! I'm pretty jazzed up for two UFC cards in Nor-Cal within the next few months.
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TAM will be denied their chance for a second shirtless celebration shot.
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How would everyone feel if barao completely whoops tj in the rematch
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can people just stop getting injured my girlfriend planned a surprise romantic trip to new hampshire this weekend without even thinking if two guys would be hugging eachother one night, does anyone know where to watch ufc there
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Dangersim posted:How would everyone feel if barao completely whoops tj in the rematch Not to be a smart rear end but there's 100% chance that won't happen (barring Dillashaw getting caught with a "lucky shot"). Dillashaw is only going to tighten up his defense moving in and out which was his only worry in the first fight, his movement and exiting from exchanges was so on loving point I don't think I've ever seen a better performance from anyone against a top tier opponent. Barao's only avenue to winning would be to get the fight to the ground where he'd be able to exert control from the top. The chances of that happening against a guy who wrestles Mendes, Benevedez and Faber daily are somewhere between slim and loving none though.
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oh no we dont get to see jose aldo fight a guy who stands absolutely no chance and doesnt deserve to fight him
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Bundt Cake posted:oh no we dont get to see jose aldo fight a guy who stands absolutely no chance and doesnt deserve to fight him He stands a chance more than anyone else in the division other than Cub Swanson at this point. If he's improved his striking over the past two years he has more options than he did have which was at the time, get beat up on the feet and then get stuffed shooting from the outside. He's looked good enough to at least be more of a threat than he was before. I wouldn't expect a Dillashaw like performance but to write him off is pretty loving nuts.
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BlindSite posted:Barao's only avenue to winning would be to get the fight to the ground where he'd be able to exert control from the top. The chances of that happening against a guy who wrestles Mendes, Benevedez and Faber daily are somewhere between slim and loving none though. If Barao improves his jab and uses teeps more to keep Dillashaw more at kicking distance, he can do some serious damage to his legs, which is going to take away the thing that made Dillashaw most effective in the first fight. I'd still heavily favor Dillashaw, but there are things Barao can do to make the striking less lopsided.
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John Romero posted:can people just stop getting injured This used to be a staple of UFC GDT OPs: http://bars.ufc.com/
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I dunno if Canada just has a disproportionate number of MMA fans per capita (which honestly I'm starting to think it does), but I get confused when people ask "hey where do I watch fights in ______" because in any Canadian city I've lived in the answer is "at just about any goddamn bar".
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BlindSite posted:He stands a chance more than anyone else in the division other than Cub Swanson at this point. If he's improved his striking over the past two years he has more options than he did have which was at the time, get beat up on the feet and then get stuffed shooting from the outside. He's looked good enough to at least be more of a threat than he was before. How has he improved his striking? KOing lovely fighters then reverting to wrestling as soon as he fought a competent fighter is basically meaningless in terms of improving enough from total death to surviving against aldo. On top of that even wrestling, his main poo poo, he didn't show a great gas tank. Hes as hosed against aldo as he ever was. I dont see any meaning in KOing Cody Mckenzie
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Jul 3, 2014 05:13
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But Chad Mendes has great striking now, he knocked out Cody McKenzie!!!
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Now that he knows how to lunge in from out of range with a wide right to the body, aldo is screwed
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Bundt Cake posted:How has he improved his striking? KOing lovely fighters then reverting to wrestling as soon as he fought a competent fighter is basically meaningless in terms of improving enough from total death to surviving against aldo. On top of that even wrestling, his main poo poo, he didn't show a great gas tank. Hes as hosed against aldo as he ever was. I dont see any meaning in KOing Cody Mckenzie Consider that he only T/KO'd two of his first 11 opponents before he fought Aldo (with only one finish in his six zuffa fights), and he has T/KO'd four of the five he has fought since then. I think that's good evidence of improved striking.
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So, the UFC scheduled another women's strawweight bout, and a goon wrote about it here: http://womensmma.com/ufc/ufc-announces-second-strawweight-match-signs-joanna-jedrzejczyk/ Give it a read, support goon MMA journalism!
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CommonShore posted:Consider that he only T/KO'd two of his first 11 opponents before he fought Aldo (with only one finish in his six zuffa fights), and he has T/KO'd four of the five he has fought since then. I think that's good evidence of improved striking. Cool hes improved to the point where he doesnt have to lay on part time fighters anymore. Thats going to serve him well against Aldo
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fatherdog posted:If Barao improves his jab and uses teeps more to keep Dillashaw more at kicking distance, he can do some serious damage to his legs, which is going to take away the thing that made Dillashaw most effective in the first fight. I'd still heavily favor Dillashaw, but there are things Barao can do to make the striking less lopsided. Barao has always had one of the best jabs in MMA, if he changes levels with it more and changes his consistent pattern of moving to left toward his opponents weaker side like GSP does - by throwing a covering jab i.e. rolling his shoulder and tucking behind it to negate a cross counter and can start to cut dillashaw's movement off and allow himself to throw power shots. He didn't do this at all in their first fight and Dillashaw was able to move around his jab with counters. Aldo and Dillashaw both have that issue where they like to control from the outside and don't have to move too much on their way in and out. They both like to pick their shots outside and hit with power when someone comes inside trying to rush past their jab or leg kicks. I don't think Barao is going to start using more teeps, he might I agree, but there's a good chance that he'll get put down if he tries to. Barao also tends to throw caution to the wind in exchanges and throw from his hips with his chin out rather than staying tight. That's not something that gets fixed in camp. I'm not saying Barao won't be able to do anything, but I don't see him being able to adjust his style, that he's had for the last decade enough to negate the massive strides Dillashaw made. He'd need to have a lot more movement in his game, and a lot better footwork to cut off Dillashaw's movement. TJ came out at the right angles the whole fight so Barao had to re-set in order to hit him, mainly turn his whole body while getting hit and he kept moving. I don't see that in his game or his gas tank to completely change who he is as a fighter in a few months. Bundt Cake posted:How has he improved his striking? KOing lovely fighters then reverting to wrestling as soon as he fought a competent fighter is basically meaningless in terms of improving enough from total death to surviving against aldo. On top of that even wrestling, his main poo poo, he didn't show a great gas tank. Hes as hosed against aldo as he ever was. I dont see any meaning in KOing Cody Mckenzie First of all he didn't "revert to wrestling as soon as he fought a competent fighter" he reverted to wrestling when he was gassing and felt slow because he was legitimately sick http://www.mmamania.com/2013/12/15/5212200/ufc-on-fox-9-results-chad-mendes-slowed-by-sickness-in-victory-over-nik-lentz. He used to stand flat footed in front of people and throw the most rudimentary one two combinations and leg kicks that lacked serious hip torque. At the very least against guida he showed that he can move his head off the centre line and throw three and four punch combinations now, he's also gotten a lot better at not backing straight out in exchanges and instead moving off his opponents centre. Those things alone represent a big jump in ability.
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The new embedded was good as they all are. - Ronda is pretty cool and a lot of the poo poo she said was very true - The wide man is a total frat boy it seems - Machida "When I'm away from my family...I'm...I'm happy."
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Bundt Cake posted:oh no we dont get to see jose aldo fight a guy who stands absolutely no chance and doesnt deserve to fight him I don't disagree with you that the rematch won't go much differently than the first, but I'm also perplexed why you aren't bothered that it's Aldo who's injured and out of the fight instead of Mendes in this scenario. Losing a chance to watch Aldo fight, even a rematch, sucks. If we're lucky it will only be a short injury like Weidman going from May to July, but if it's long then that's Aldo going another full year between title defenses (Mendes 2012 -> Edgar 2013, Lamas 2014 -> ? 2015). That stinks. Bubba Smith fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Jul 3, 2014 |
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I just realized that if BJ beats Frankie, they're probably going to line up an Aldo fight for him. If BJ has anything left in the tank at this point (and if he beats Edgar he clearly does) that sounds really fun.
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Dangersim posted:I just realized that if BJ beats Frankie I stopped here
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BJ no can brah
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Maybe BJ can get a gift decision somehow. It's not like Frankie hasn't been hosed before in a 5 rounder.
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I don't think he will or am I rooting for him. I'm from New Jersey.
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In other news http://instagram.com/p/p9L2_rIWov/
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1st AD posted:Maybe BJ can get a gift decision somehow. It's not like Frankie hasn't been hosed before in a 5 rounder. If BJ can stop the takedowns he has a decent shot at a decision, like he did in the first match, but I think Edgar will always beat him to the punch and that's what's gonna make it difficult for him. This is assuming BJ hasn't slowed down much in the last two years, which he has, gently caress.
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BJ is probably going to get decisioned again, realistically.
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I hope BJ wins. I am setting myself up for endless disappointment. But I hope he wins.
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