canoshiz posted:

I know it's a PR move and all but it still sucks that he got canned from an announcing position where it doesn't matter what kinda roids he's pumping into himself. He even formally announced his retirement from competition and everything.

Wonder what this means for his Metamoris appearance.

BlindSite posted:

Chael nooooooo

I don't really get this decision by the Fox or the UFC. The dudes officially retired. Its not as if it was really in disgrace either. He was pretty open and forthright from the beginning about his PED use in the general public, even if behind the scenes he was trying to sell the commission a bridge.

Bubba Smith posted:

Chael might go the Rich Franklin OneFC route where he infiltrates joins another MMA organization and helps them out, but Chael probably has a lot of love for Zuffa since they made him rich & gave him many opportunities to fight for a world title. I wouldn't expect him to help out their biggest competitor.

Then again that describes Randy Couture and that didn't stop Randy from turning his back on the company when Viacom money was put on the table.

John Romero posted:

is cain ever fighting again

1st AD posted:

I'm shocked that an AKA fighter is taking a selfie with George W. Bush.

Aurain posted:

You shouldn't get an instant rematch if you got hosed up for 5 rounds and then knocked out, regardless of how good of a champion you were.

I want TJ to win for that reason more than any other.

Bulging Nipples posted:

Because


That was about as decisive a beating as you can get. It wasn't a Frankie Edgar incredibly close fight situation, and it wasn't an Anderson Silva "was the knockout a fluke? let's find out woops nope, nope it wasnt" situation. It was a complete 5 round domination and then a knockout to cap it off. There's really nothing that TJ needs to prove immediately. I'd love to see them fight down the line, but I'm sick of immediate rematches.

Bubba Smith posted:

Kevin Iole bumped up UFC 174's numbers from 100k to 125k, meaning it is now only the 2nd worst MMA PPV of the year. we did it, congratulations

-Atom- posted:

I've heard several journalists say that Barao was sick for the first fight so I'm just going to latch onto that idea and watch a TAM get killed in Sacramento

Trast posted:

He only has himself to blame given the insane amount of weight he cuts.

Foul Fowl posted:

Penn getting robbed became this weird media narrative in the wake of Doug Crosby's (pretty ludicrous) 50-45 Edgar scorecard and subsequent trolling of the Underground over that fact.

Way I remember it the fight was a really close, 48-47 either way kinda leaning Edgar sort of affair but I haven't rewatched it since.

Bubba Smith posted:

Marc Raimondi @marc_raimondi 35m
Dana White is interested in doing Kid Yamamoto vs. Urijah Faber.

For those of you who didn't watch, Faber said at the press conference he wants to get on that Japan card because it's always been a dream of his to fight in Japan. Looks like that Fight Pass card is going to move a few subscriptions. That's better than most of the cards they've put on Fox Sports 1 this year.

Kurohashi posted:

The saddest part about all of this is if there was a Pulver/Penn rubber match I would have no clue who'd win at this point.

Geno Petralli posted:

Why are they using ceronne and miller on a fight night card when their stupid ufc 176 is apparently in shambles

Bubba Smith posted:

That's what I would like because that card is very very good aside from the no main event. It's a much stronger card than UFC 151 was when they had to cancel that. Mousasi/Jacare is a good rematch with title implications, Makovsky vs Formiga is another potential contender fight, and Bobby Green vs Abel Trujillo & Tony Ferguson vs Danny Castillo are pretty solid for entertaining fights.

So let's hope it either goes to FS1 or Fight Pass cause a cancellation would flat out suck.

LeftistMuslimObama posted:

Have the drug tests from TUF come back yet? Corey Anderson had some hardcore gyno and I didn't see it on the show so I assume he cycled on hard right after and it would be so deliciously schadenfreude for him to piss (or lactate) hot.

budreck posted:

Fatherdog, will Miller dismantle Cerrone?

Two years ago I would have bet my life on it but Jim looked like poo poo against Healy.

John Cena posted:

chuck wasn't actually that big of a PPV draw.

1st AD posted:

that was years ago when the floor wasn't 100k buys

1st AD posted:

I'm not doubting he moved PPV's, but iirc Machida came out of nowhere to win the title at 98 and did like 600k buys. Because there were fewer cards and just a fraction of TV cards, I think it was easier to get people to buy PPV's. UFC 99 was a pretty poo poo card in terms of star power from top to bottom and it got 350k buys.

Bubba Smith posted:

nah that had to be 95% GSP and 5% Machida vs Couture. That was Aldo's first fight in UFC and his WEC PPV did 150k. He didn't add much at all to UFC 129's buyrate. However, it was an immensely cool fight and I genuinely thought it was gonna be the fight to make Aldo a star. But then nothing happened and he got injured a lot.

Lloyd Boner posted:

Reem vs Rothwell on the CT card

Detroit_Dogg posted:

Bubba Smith posted:

Nah it's not just you most people think interim titles are horseshit. however 9 months is a little drastic. Fighters are going to get hurt no matter what and at 9 months you'd see the title stripped after every other defense. I'd pin it between 1 year to 18 months personally. 2 years+ for Cruz was obviously too much.

Bubba Smith posted:

Agreed.

I was looking forward to the Johnson vs Thomson fight a whole lot. I like Bobby Green's potential but I think he's gonna be in over his head against Thomson. Whoever they feed to Abel Trujillo is most likely hosed.

Also, Jose Aldo owns:
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Jack of Hearts posted:

Where will they find a big enough can to feed to Carano? This is all for the purpose of a fraudulent superfight with RR, so how can they be sure of making this convincing, given how far WMMA has moved and how Gina has almost assuredly not been training?

TheJoker138 posted:

So I'm just getting into UFC and I have an important question: Is this Mark Hall guy from UFC 7 a nazi? And if not why does he keep heiling hitler?

fatherdog posted:

Can you imagine how impossibly poo poo the UFC hall of fame would be if it worked the way baseball's does

CommonShore posted:

There's a ton of talk about a non-ufc specific MMA HOF - it makes the rounds on the blogs every six to eight months - but why the hell doesn't someone just loving do it by getting a panel of a few dozen former fighters, coaches, and journalists on an email chain to vote on inductees? Get a website set up to start up and figure out the physical hall and award presentations once the ball gets rolling. Do a kickstarter to get enough money to buy inaugural plaques for Royce, Fedor, and Sakuraba.

The only obstacle I can think of is that the press are scared that the UFC might blacklist them for participating in a "there's more to MMA than just UFC" institution.

fatherdog posted:

Saku fought in the UFC.

Captain Log posted:

Goon hate aside, who other than Saku, Fedor, and...err..yeah that's about it would belong in a HoF?

Fozzy The Bear posted:

That didn't have any/much fights in the UFC? Or just any fighter? First I would look at past champions, Pulver, BJ Penn, GSP, Rich Franklin, Dan Henderson, Wanderlei Silva, Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira

Maybe
Murilo Bustamante, Jeremy Horn, Vitor Belfort, Pedro Rizzo, Bas Rutten, Mirko Filipovic, Maurício Rua


Many of these names will be in the HoF in the coming years.

Detroit_Dogg posted:

You can replace Anderson with Chris Weidman and Royce with Anyone Else too.

ChampRamp posted:

Not really. Wandy could be on everything Chael is on and more. I don't see how what Chael did was worse at all.

ChampRamp posted:

Okay, well if you're combining them, but I was speaking as if they were (theoretical first-time) individual offenses.

1st AD posted:

tl;dr for the following post - Miesha Tate saved Bryan Caraway's asthmatic mom's life by some quick thinking despite Caraway's protest at her methods.

Bean Fried posted:

So, Fox (not FS1), will be airing the later Prelims before the next Fox show, for the first time ever. Obviously, you'd think the UFC would decide to capitalize on this by putting on some truly stacked prelims to capitalize on this extended opportunity to grab some new fans. Unfortunately:

UFC on Fox 12
Anaheim, CA
July 26
Main Card on Fox (8 PM Eastern):
• WW Title Eliminator: Matt Brown vs. Robbie Lawler
• LHW: Anthony Johnson vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
• FW: Dennis Bermudez vs. Clay Guida
• LW: Bobby Green vs. Josh Thomson

Prelims also on Fox (6 PM Eastern):
• LW: Daron Cruickshank vs. Jorge Masvidal
• LHW: Patrick Cummins vs. Kyle Kingsbury
• WW: Tim Means vs. Hernani Perpetuo
• FW: Mike De La Torre vs. Brian Ortega

Prelims on FightPass (about 4 PM Eastern):
• LW: Akbarh Arreola vs. Tiago dos Santos
• FW: Noad Lahat vs. Steven Siler
• LW: Gilbert Burns vs. Andreas Stahl
• WSW: Juliana Carneiro Lima vs. Joanna Jedrzejczyk

Main card's solid, nothing mindblowing.

For the televised prelims though, only Masvisal vs. Cruickshank really makes sense here, and even that is questionable as a lead in to such an important main card. Patrick Cummins vs Kingsbury might be passable as the opener, you're never ever going to get me to care about Tim Means, and I have no idea who the gently caress Mike De La Torre or Brian Ortega are.

Also, as an aside, Jedrzejczyk is pretty loving badass. The only reason she's not ranked by anyone is because she's been fighting at FLW until now. Check out her fight with Rosi Sexton, Jedrzejczyk hits hard as gently caress for her size.