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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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Christoff posted:

I don't know what's worse being barked at by an old Filipino CS or cleaning up after nobles or personally delivering their laundry

We made sure the guys up in the wardroom were taken care of. They typically got off earlier than anyone else, as well, because we didn't serve dinner upstairs in port.

The chiefs would talk up cranking in the mess as the best, but most hated it because you had the galley right next to you so the CSes had their claws in you so much easier. That and a bunch of the chiefs were entitled fucks. The wardroom cranks didn't have to clean our staterooms, but the chief's cranks had to clean the chief's berthings.

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Fart Sandwiches
Apr 4, 2006

i never asked for this
Gotta instill that hatred of chiefs early.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Ok I got this. Historically they use to be called stewards and the rating was usually all black until right after ww2. This all makes sense now.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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LingcodKilla posted:

Ok I got this. Historically they use to be called stewards and the rating was usually all black until right after ww2. This all makes sense now.

Yeah, basically. Some of that job is now done by two rates - CS (cooks) and SH (laundry, snack machines, ship's store, and barbershop).

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Mr. Nice! posted:

Yeah, basically. Some of that job is now done by two rates - CS (cooks) and SH (laundry, snack machines, ship's store, and barbershop).

Oh right. I met a guy at MEPS who actually signed up specifically to get SH so he could get his barber license. Planes on opening a shop after getting out.

I suppose it's no worse than my plan but goddamn aim a little higher dude.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

LingcodKilla posted:

Oh right. I met a guy at MEPS who actually signed up specifically to get SH so he could get his barber license. Planes on opening a shop after getting out.

I suppose it's no worse than my plan but goddamn aim a little higher dude.

I'm not gonna bag on anyone who thinks that being a self-employed barber is a good life.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Yeah but I mean SH is so broad there's a chance he'll never cut hair? They get a license out of that?

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Christoff posted:

Yeah but I mean SH is so broad there's a chance he'll never cut hair? They get a license out of that?

Yeah, there is that chance but only the dumbest senior leadership doesn't try to get an enthusiastic (non-retarded) guy an NEC, especially if it has direct CO visibility like haircuts or captain's mess.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


So it was never brought up during my recruiting process but is it possible to go boot without being assigned a rating or is it something you earn by failing your A school? I'm guessing being a paint scraper and sludge cleaner isn't an actual rating.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Yes a lot of people still fall for going in as an undesignated seaman or airman. I think there's also some kind of "open" contract were you'll get one of a handful of jobs decided for you at boot camp.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Christoff posted:

Yes a lot of people still fall for going in as an undesignated seaman or airman. I think there's also some kind of "open" contract were you'll get one of a handful of jobs decided for you at boot camp.

And only the dumbest of that group decide to strike BM because they just love paint scraping and sludge cleaning that much.

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.
Yeah I used to laugh when chiefs would say that guys "loved" cranking in the Chief's Mess because they "tipped" down there. Especially when those same cranks would tell me how much they hated it. The guys up in the wardroom were on easy street. Mostly we just BSed with them about football, movies, and beautiful women all day and left them alone. Despite what everyone says about nobles, most of really do understand how bad it sucks to be a junior enlisted sailor. Especially one sent to crank.

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.
In other news, I just got back from an Irish Catholic wedding with an open bar and I am drunk posting like a mother fucker. I think that's still cool in the lounge threads.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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ManMythLegend posted:

In other news, I just got back from an Irish Catholic wedding with an open bar and I am drunk posting like a mother fucker. I think that's still cool in the lounge threads.

:redhammer:

Octopode
Sep 2, 2009

No. I work here. I manage operations for this and integration for this, while making sure that their stuff keeps working in here.

ManMythLegend posted:

In other news, I just got back from an Irish Catholic wedding with an open bar and I am drunk posting like a mother fucker. I think that's still cool in the lounge threads.

Take that, Right Spirit campaign!

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

Shhhhhiiiiii....

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.
The good news for you proles is that I didn't drink and drive. A shuttle bus was set up between the reception and the hotel. Use alcohol responsibly ladies and gentlemen.

If for no other reason then I don't want to potentially have to do the paperwork for you because I am lazy.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

ManMythLegend posted:

In other news, I just got back from an Irish Catholic wedding with an open bar and I am drunk posting like a mother fucker. I think that's still cool in the lounge threads.

department of redundancy department

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp

ManMythLegend posted:

Shhhhhiiiiii....

Don't listen to him. As someone also dunk posting from his sister's high school graduation party.

So many 17 year olds.

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

Stultus Maximus posted:

department of redundancy department

I'm not Catholic, but if there's one thing I've learned about them it's that these mother fuckers love to party.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Catholic parties are pretty lame compared to black baptist parties. It's the Irish part of your party were all the fun is coming from.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

ManMythLegend posted:

I'm not Catholic, but if there's one thing I've learned about them it's that these mother fuckers love to party.

If you ever go to a Catholic wedding without an open bar, tell the assholes to just go Methodist or something already.

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

Stultus Maximus posted:

If you ever go to a Catholic wedding without an open bar, tell the assholes to just go Methodist or something already.

As a Methodist I can confirm that most of our weddings are lame.

I was told afterwards that mine was pretty kickin. The fact that one of my buddies woke up half naked, and up to his nipples in the St Johns River the next day gives me empirical evidence that it was.

Vriess
Apr 30, 2013

Select the items of interest in the scene.

Returned with Honor.

Christoff posted:

I don't know what's worse being barked at by an old Filipino CS or cleaning up after nobles or personally delivering their laundry

I did a few months of cranking in S-2, picking up Noble laundry and taking out the trash.

I ruined someone's relationship and read an awful lot of porn that was poorly hidden in wardrooms.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



LingcodKilla posted:

Ok I got this. Historically they use to be called stewards and the rating was usually all black until right after ww2. This all makes sense now.

It has improved, now they are black/filipino.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Vriess posted:

I ruined someone's relationship and read an awful lot of porn that was poorly hidden in wardrooms.

AMA about catching a married JO boning the MWR rep on the Enterprise.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


orange juche posted:

It has improved, now they are black/filipino.

gently caress. He was Filipino. Poor kid.

Geizkragen
Dec 29, 2006

Get that booze monkey off my back!

orange juche posted:

AMA about catching a married JO boning the MWR rep on the Enterprise.

Um ok. Having spent three years attached to said ship: details? I'm dying to hear about this.

Octopode
Sep 2, 2009

No. I work here. I manage operations for this and integration for this, while making sure that their stuff keeps working in here.

Geizkragen posted:

Um ok. Having spent three years attached to said ship: details? I'm dying to hear about this.

Most importantly, was the MWR rep at least good looking?

poopkitty
Oct 16, 2013

WE ARE ALL ONE

orange juche posted:

AMA about catching a married JO boning the MWR rep on the Enterprise.

Were they both dudes? Otherwise no biggie.

Seqenenra
Oct 11, 2005
Secret

Cerekk posted:

What in the hell is a mess decks master at arms

It used to be a place where you dumped your PO1 that you wanted out of the division, but recently most ships are sending their #1 EPs to make sure that the salad bar stays stocked.

Sir Lucius
Aug 3, 2003
the regulation says "shall" and not "will" so I don't have to do it

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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Uh, no? Shall is a required thing. Can or may are optional terms. Shall, must, will, and the ilk are mandatory actions.

Sir Lucius
Aug 3, 2003
I shall consider that

LordNad
Nov 18, 2002

HEY BAD GUYS, THIS IS THE VICE PRESIDENT, PLEASE DON'T KILL HIM!

Mr. Nice! posted:

Uh, no? Shall is a required thing. Can or may are optional terms. Shall, must, will, and the ilk are mandatory actions.

Actually, will indicates futurity.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Selling leave is never worth it, right? I have about 60 days of leave saved and get out soonish. Not sure if they're going to let me do terminal leave or not. It's 50/50 at this point.

And no one has an answer if you can take over 30. Some say you can take 30 come back for a week then take 30 again. I think my units policy is 30 days max I know some commands people take large amounts


Forgot to add I'd like to get out early but not much going on at work since I'm getting out and have been skating a lot more so if I don't get terminal I won't be too bummed.

What date is the use it or lose it for leave days? Sometime in November?

Nostalgia4Dogges fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Jul 7, 2014

Fart Cannon
Oct 12, 2008

College Slice

Christoff posted:

Selling leave is never worth it, right? I have about 60 days of leave saved and get out soonish. Not sure if they're going to let me do terminal leave or not. It's 50/50 at this point.

And no one has an answer if you can take over 30. Some say you can take 30 come back for a week then take 30 again. I think my units policy is 30 days max I know some commands people take large amounts


Forgot to add I'd like to get out early but not much going on at work since I'm getting out and have been skating a lot more so if I don't get terminal I won't be too bummed.

What date is the use it or lose it for leave days? Sometime in November?

Wasn't it you who asked about the leave time frame deal a few weeks ago?

The 30-60 day policies are command dependent. If their max is 30 days then you take 30 days, come back for a day, take 30 of terminal. Put your chits in now - if they don't want you to take leave like that then you need to start taking your leave now. You earned your vacation days and selling them back is a dumb idea.

Have you started looking at college for spring semester?

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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You can use 100% of your leave left for terminal based upon your command's discretion. You may also be eligible for permissive TAD for a few days of free leave. If you can take it as terminal, take it versus selling it. If you're using it as terminal you get bah and bas still. If you sell it back you just get the basic pay rate.

Pandasmores
May 8, 2009

Received the Navy COOL-paid test for my NEC civilian equivalent cert and holy poo poo, I thought it would likely be worthless but drat this isn't even going to be worth wiping my rear end hahahaha. I'm practically writing the prompt the essay questions.

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Moral_Hazard
Aug 21, 2012

Rich Kid of Insurancegram
Here's some more Navy nobility for the OP: Henry C. Mustin. I served with his (great?)grandson, John Mustin, who despite being Navy nobility was a good officer.

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