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Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
Can't mercenaries pretty much just be killed if they're caught on a battlefield?

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Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Tatum Girlparts posted:

Hm it's weird how they never did this math for the last guy.

I remember U6 looking like it was gonna go to 20% under Bush for a little bit. Good times.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Samurai Quack posted:

Have there ever been historical examples of a group blatantly supporting traitors and criminals as openly as the right does with Reagan et all?

Like I know it's all relative but all Ollie ever did was sell missiles to enemy forces. Why is he still well received by the right

There's still a bunch of Spanish dudes who want Franco back.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
I remember just after Obama's speech at the '04 telling a friend that we'd just watched the next President speak. Hadn't heard of the guy at the time, but goddamn can he give speeches.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Taerkar posted:

Now I want to see a book that was written in response to Atlas Shrugged. Have it be about how less than a few years after the Gulch was founded it was overrun and conquered by the rest of the world who then used the free energy machine to make everything better for everyone. And of course the "Invisible Gulch" would be located because the TITANS OF INDUSTRY dumped a bunch of pollutants out in the surrounding area and that was used to find the Gulch.

John Galt becomes known as humanity's biggest rear end in a top hat.

Brad Hicks, who most of you probably remember as the guy who wrote that series of blog posts about how right-wing Christianity is indistinguishable from Satan worship, wrote a great bit about the two sequels Rand wrote to Atlas Shrugged- the one she wrote, and the one she didn't.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Joementum posted:

Jody Hice has some thoughts he'd like to share with you before his July 22 primary runoff election.


This is the district that elected Paul "Lies From the Pit of Hell" Broun.

But even if that were true, political views are just as protected by the First Amendment as any other.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

quote:

"You want clean air... Well, screw you.”

Vermin.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
Members of Congress Declare "Immunity" from Insider Trading Probe

TFA posted:

The U.S. House Ways and Means Committee is refusing to cooperate with an insider trading investigation, saying its employees are “absolutely immune” from having to comply with subpoenas from the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).

U.S. District Court Judge Paul Gardephe ordered the committee last week to explain why it hadn’t responded to the SEC’s year-long request for documents, phone records and the testimony of staff director Brian Sutter, as part of a probe into whether he or other House members leaked private information about health care policy to insurance companies.

Rather than turning over the information, top House lawyer Kerry W. Kircher answered the order by requesting that the case be dismissed.

Kircher claimed that the request for documents violates the Speech or Debate Clause of the Constitution, which protects members of Congress from outside inquiry into “legislative acts” during their time in office.

“What the SEC has done is embark on a remarkable fishing expedition for congressional records -- core legislative records,” Kircher said in a court filing.

William Pittard, House deputy general counsel, also sent the SEC a letter claiming that the subpoenas are “vague, confusing, overbroad, unduly burdensome, unlikely to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence, and otherwise improper."

Pittard called the subpoenas “repugnant to public policy.”

However, history has shown both Kircher's and Pittard's claims to be questionable. The Supreme Court first found in 1966 that the Speech or Debate Clause can interfere with prosecutions of political corruption. A later case also ruled that while legislative acts are protected by the clause, political acts are still subject to investigation, which could include “errands” for constituents and assistance with government contracts.

Despite this, it is still unclear if Sutter committed a crime, because laws that prohibit insider trading among private companies are murkier in government, where the regulations are more flexible. A staff member is allowed to share an impending policy change with a lobbyist or policy expert before it is announced to the public, for example.

But Congress passed legislation like the Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge (STOCK) Act to combat just that grey area — and prevent its members from taking advantage of it to illegally share insider information.

Adopted in April 2012, the law (PDF) ensures that Congress is not “exempt from the insider trading prohibitions arising under the securities law,” as part of its duty to maintain a “relationship of trust and confidence owed by each Member of Congress and each employee of Congress.”


The SEC began its investigation after a series of red flags in April 2013, a year after Congress adopted the STOCK Act. According to the filings, Sutter spoke with a lobbyist for law firm Greenberg Traurig just minutes before the lobbyist emailed a brokerage firm with information from “very credible sources” about a change in Medicare policy. The firm then sent out an alert about the upcoming change to clients, including large insurance companies like Humana, and share prices of several immediately jumped.

At the time, Sutter told federal investigators that he did not recall speaking with the lobbyist, but a few days later, a House lawyer said that “time for reflection” may have helped stir Sutter’s memory.

But the committee has since refused to answer the SEC’s requests for information. The closest it has come is asking the commission for a “substantial narrowing” of its demands and a “firm commitment that the Committee’s making available to [the] agency of certain documents would end the Committee’s and Mr. Sutter’s involvement in this matter.”

If the investigation goes to court, it will be the first securities violation case since Congress adopted the STOCK Act.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Spun Dog posted:

My bad, I already have plenty of that.

Like a fish in water, you know?

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

A few hours ago I saw an image macro of Obama in a bar on facebook saying "THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE BETTER THAN THIS GO TO THE BORDER TO FIX THE CRISIS NOW NOBAMA" :sigh:

What's he supposed to do, pilot a drone and just shoot Hellfire missiles at children?

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
Didn't Dinesh D'Souza write a book about how Republicans and Muslims should team up to rid the world of liberals?

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Kitfox88 posted:

Yeah, basically. The fact that Brietbart apparently never even contacted the TSA because they're too stupid to use a website amuses me though.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
Representative Renee Ellmers (R-GA) has advice for men on how to explain political issues so that women can understand them.

internalized misogyny posted:

“Men do tend to talk about things on a much higher level,” Ellmers said. “Many of my male colleagues, when they go to the House floor, you know, they’ve got some pie chart or graph behind them and they’re talking about trillions of dollars and how, you know, the debt is awful and, you know, we all agree with that.

First she’s saying that men (perhaps only Republican men) don’t know how to connect with people. Second, she’s saying people are too stupid to understand pie charts.

Ellmers then said that women mainly want more time in their lives (don’t men as well?) and the first example she gave was that women wanted “more time in the morning to get ready.”

As for connecting to women specifically, Ellmers drove it home with a line that, had there been liberals in the audience, would have made the news.

“We need our male colleagues to understand that if you can bring it down to a woman’s level and what everything that she is balancing in her life — that’s the way to go,” Ellmers said.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Joementum posted:

Several of the mods kept pestering me to change it because it was so obnoxious to look at, so I changed it to Adam Weishaupt

For some reason a picture of George Washington just doesn't seem very you.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Look at how young and dreamy Keith Olbermann used to be :allears:

And how full of gravitas!

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Zero_Grade posted:

I had no idea about this, but it's hilarious.

It's to the point where one of the first questions asked about each new decision is whether or not the judge cited Scalia's dissent.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Armani posted:

...WHY? What's the point?

To keep the GOP base excited for November.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

I bet they keep their mouths mostly shut, since it'll remind people that Obama killed bin Laden.

Nah, remember? They've already worked out a whole narrative around how Obama had nothing to do with it.


ufarn posted:

Booker has probably made some of the most insane pro-Israel remarks of any prominant politician I can remember.

Booker is in way tight with the Chabad-Lubavitchers.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

richardfun posted:

The Times of Israel had a lovely blog post up on their website yesterday titled 'When is genocide permissible?'

Close, it was actually "When Genocide Is Permissible". Slight change of meaning there.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

hobbesmaster posted:

The Times of Israel is online only and was created 2 years ago. It has a blogs section that is similar to the Forbes sites thing - anyone can create one and presumably makes money off the number of hits (ad impressions) they drive just like Forbes sites. I imagine they're rethinking that setup now.

The author of that piece was the founder's son, sooooooooo

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
I'm pretty sure you can't actually sue the President. Sovereign immunity or somesuch.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Xandu posted:

Nope, different newspaper.

Ah, whoops.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Raenir Salazar posted:

True!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgi96F6VwaM

He's a cool dude it seems to have put time aside to speak as a guest for Extra Credits about how to get your voice heard in politics.

Edit:


Don't we have a secret handshake or shibboleth we use to identify each other in public?

No. Jesus, no.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
The GOP's got a good shot at the Senate in 2014, but aren't the first wave of Tea Party Senators coming up en masse for reelection in 2016? That could be a bloodbath if the Democrats can- hahahaha, sorry! Forgot who I was talking about!

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Zombie Samurai posted:

Someone bring back Amergin.

Where the hell did he get off to, anyway?

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Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Chantilly Say posted:

drat.

Also, people, Amergin was just posting, like, days ago. Maybe they have a life?

Occam's Razor suggests otherwise.

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