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It's really cute when you see hardcore right wingers shake off the irrational screeching and try their hands at logical arguments. It hardly ever works but, like a kid learning to swim, all you can do is encourage them. Good job, Arkane. Sorry that you're so insecure about being closely associated with entrenched political racism.
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Jul 5, 2014 22:23
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StandardVC10 posted:Is it okay if I can't come up with a clean answer to that? I think it's partially Congress not doing its job. At one point Obama was practically begging them to set up an improved legal framework for this idiotic war on terrorism (the fact that we are prosecuting such a thing is part of the problem, since it's so open-ended, as are the legal mandates given to pursue it.) Certainly if a Republican or another mainstream Democrat was elected in 2008, I think there'd be little different with respect to drone strikes - the advantages are the same for these methods regardless of who's in office. Congress was removed from this equation as far as I know. The timeline is that the Detroit underwear bombing suspect was caught in 2009 and it was connected to Anwar Al-Awlaki...Obama told his counsel to justify the killing of Al-Awlaki (2010) and they did so with a confidential memo. Obama attempted to execute Al-Awlaki twice in 2011. The first time the drone strike killed his 16 year old American son (who was borrowing his cell phone iirc) and the second time it killed Al-Awlaki and another American.
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Jul 5, 2014 22:23
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Arkane posted:And besides that, the idea that a President cannot work with Congress has 250 years worth of evidence to the contrary. When one party now has the idea that working together means they get 100% of everything they want your whole assertion falls apart. I mean Republicans came out and said they were going to make it their mission to oppose anything Obama wanted. Even if it was stuff that they themselves created or supported a few years before.
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Jul 5, 2014 22:25
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Arkane posted:Expanded them, unfortunately. Far worsened atmosphere for journalists, too. quote:That was 6 years ago. U-6 is still at 12%. 0 of the people responsible for said economic crisis were prosecuted, let alone indicted. His handling is a huge shitshow. Fortuitous for him, we've had a gigantic oil boom under his watch. quote:Only ~25% of Americans think the US is on the right track. The average numbers of his Presidency are probably among the lowest ever. quote:Obama had TWO YEARS of bicameral control. Not only control, but they had resounding majorities. The "but only for Congress" meme is bullshit. You've expunged the first two years from your memories apparently. And besides that, the idea that a President cannot work with Congress has 250 years worth of evidence to the contrary. quote:Then you aren't paying attention, because Obama's foreign policy is largely an extension of Bush, and in some cases, more aggressive. The lone exception being Iraq. quote:Boom, a sound byte from 30 years ago from an actual racist. Nice job Colombo. There's no doubt that there are racists. In both parties. Ascribing 50% of the country disliking Obama to his race is made up bullshit, to reassure yourself that the bad President that you guys went gaga over in this forum in 2008 isn't so bad after all. If you want to see actual racism, click on the I/P thread. The baying for Jewish blood is sickening.  Nope, the GOP totally doesn't idolize a man who's policies were almost completely based on appealing to racists from the loving start.
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Jul 5, 2014 22:33
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Popular Thug Drink posted:ITT Arkane starts crying baby tears over the widely held and accurate perception that his political fellow travelers are out of touch racists. We already went through this in the other thread man. Just repeating "they hate him because they're racists" is made up. Full stop. I am sure it's true here or there, but people on D&D use it as a general statement on a constant basis. The closest we came in the other thread, despite all efforts, was some dude saying that he met a few people who didn't like Obama and he was pretty sure they were racists. Kinda funny actually. I bet a lot of money on politics, so I like to stay HONED in my grasp of major topics...there's no point "arguing" with people you agree with as you never learn the other point of view and just end up descending into a myopic and unmalleable view of the world.
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Jul 5, 2014 22:34
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Ankle-biter posted:In a recent interview he was asked if his message was for illegal aliens to go home and he replied something to the effect of, "They should not be sending their children unaccompanied." He never said he was against it in the slightest. Stephanopolous: You mentioned immigration. There's a humanitarian crisis on the border. Some of your critics have said you need to speak out more directly to the people of Central America and say, don't come. If you come, you will be deported. Osama: We actually -- we've done that. The problem is that, under current law, once the kids come across the border, there's a system in which we're supposed to process them, take care of them, until we can send them back. Snuffleupagus: Is your message don't come? Idi Amin: Oh, our message absolutely is don't send your children unaccompanied on trains or through a bunch of smugglers. That is our direct message to families in Central America. Do not send your children to the borders. If they do make it, they'll get sent back. More importantly, they may not make it. I live in silicon valley and there are ads here in English, Spanish and Chinese, and it's cool. Maybe try not being such an uptight dick?
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Jul 5, 2014 22:38
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Arkane posted:Assuming nothing else significant happens either positive or negative, seems kinda obvious that Obama will end up being a consensus poor President. Not sure what the uproar is about. Yes, assuming that the 24 hour news cycle will continue on for the next hundred years blaming everything bad ever on him and saying he's inviting gangbangers and thugs into the white house. Arkane posted:NSA? Economy? Right track/wrong track? Inability to pass legislation? Foreign policy? Arkane posted:Congress had been an obstruction to Presidential proposal for hundreds of years. The idea that Obama has run into some unforeseen problem is a figment of your imagination. More than double the record number of filibusters for a 2 term president by the end of his first term sure is something every President had to face. Except, you know, its more than double what any president ever had to face, just by the end of his first term. Also, other president have certainly had their opposition say publicly that their only goal is to sabotage the President, and the country can go to hell for all they care.
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Jul 5, 2014 22:39
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My coworker told me that he didn't vote for Obama. Not because he's black, but because he's muslim. I agree with Arkane. Nobody hates Obama because of his race. They don't even know what he is.
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Jul 5, 2014 22:39
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crabcakes66 posted:When one party now has the idea that working together means they get 100% of everything they want your whole assertion falls apart. I mean Republicans came out and said they were going to make it their mission to oppose anything Obama wanted. Even if it was stuff that they themselves created or supported a few years before. But every one of the prospective political leaders on-stage rejected the hypothetical proposal. "Compromise" had become a poisoned concept and it had to be publicly disavowed.
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Jul 5, 2014 22:43
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Arkane posted:We already went through this in the other thread man. Just repeating "they hate him because they're racists" is made up. Full stop. I am sure it's true here or there, but people on D&D use it as a general statement on a constant basis. The closest we came in the other thread, despite all efforts, was some dude saying that he met a few people who didn't like Obama and he was pretty sure they were racists. Kinda funny actually. You keep bringing up D&D like it's the only arbiter of people's opinions. Is this where you get most of your political information? My weekend job is blue collar, I spend a lot of time meeting people in the course of my daily life, and I can say that my perception of the heavy correlation between racism and mindless Obama hate is based on IRL experiences that I have, offline. I'm not quite sure the same can be said for you given how much you focus on the internet in general and this subforum in particular. Hell, I was at a house party last night in an extremely youthful and hipster part of my city. It is common among my friends to blame petty problems on Obama. A drunk guy we didn't know stumbled over a chair, fell, and spilled his drink on my friend's leg. A couple of folks said "Thanks, Obama!" in unison and the drunk guy came up pissed, daring us to associate him with that spic lover Obama one more time. This guy had tattoos and rode a bike to this party. Obama is like kryptonite for racists and you cannot understand American politics without understanding that a significant portion of the country hates him because of his race. To deny this is willful ignorance. Arkane posted:I bet a lot of money on politics, so I like to stay HONED in my grasp of major topics...there's no point "arguing" with people you agree with as you never learn the other point of view and just end up descending into a myopic and unmalleable view of the world. Right back at you, buddy. Except you're the one purposely going into a place where you know your views will be rejected offhand to complain about your views being rejected, then getting seemingly upset that you stuck your finger in a wasp nest. Doesn't speak well of your ability to think things through. ChikoDemono posted:My coworker told me that he didn't vote for Obama. Not because he's black, but because he's muslim. You don't need to know what he IS, you just need to know what he ISN'T - white, protestant, all-American, etc. boner confessor fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Jul 5, 2014 |
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Jul 5, 2014 22:43
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Winner is Jew, you've gotta be kidding me that the reason that banking executives that caused a trillion dollar financial crisis weren't prosecuted is because budgets were slashed. I mean seriously, come on. They had whistleblowers coming out of the rear end. 60 Minutes did an almost 30 minute story on this years ago called Prosecuting Wall Street. It's on Youtube. There's also a great documentary called Inside Job which outlined the whole thing. There's 0 doubt that the opportunity to prosecute was there and avoided. Whether you want to ascribe the Obama admin's lack of action to incompetence or corruption is up to you. Meanwhile, Holder came out against HFT approximately 5 minutes after the Michael Lewis book came out. HFT is nefarious, but kid stuff compared to what happened in the lead up to the financial crisis, and STRANGELY ENOUGH has very little to do with any of the big financial firms. Yup, definitely a Justice Department that has its priorities in order.
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Jul 5, 2014 22:45
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Gazpacho posted:I live in silicon valley and there are ads here in English, Spanish and Chinese, and it's cool. Maybe try not being such an uptight dick? poo poo man, I wish I only had to deal with 3 languages. Living in the heart of OC I can drive 15 minutes to areas where every other add is in English and either in Spanish, Vietnamese, Chinese, or Farsi. Of course, I only speak English so it's actually really awesome to be able to get super authentic cuisine from around the world almost any time I want. Arkane posted:Winner is Jew, you've gotta be kidding me that the reason that banking executives that caused a trillion dollar financial crisis weren't prosecuted is because budgets were slashed. I mean seriously, come on. They had whistleblowers coming out of the rear end. So limiting drone usage and prosecution of wall-street. Clearly those things were at the top of the McCain or Romney administrations to-do list. On the whole, I'm not happy with Obama as are a lot of posters here in D&D. But god drat I'd vote for him again in a heart beat over literally anyone from the GOP primaries of 2008 & 2012. And go ahead and put me down for 2016 while you're at it. A Winner is Jew fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jul 5, 2014 |
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Jul 5, 2014 22:45
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You haven't lived until you've gotten a plate full of Persian rice and with two chicken koobideh. Or had shawarma sauce dripping down your sleeves. 
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Jul 5, 2014 22:47
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:You haven't lived until you've gotten a plate full of Persian rice and with two chicken. Or had sauce dripping down your sleeves. It's called Cracker Barrel for the former, and Chipotle for the latter. Proper American meals, git out with that osama poo poo.
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Jul 5, 2014 22:48
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America's on the wrong track to increasingly dark presidents.
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Jul 5, 2014 23:08
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Arkane posted:60 Minutes did an almost 30 minute story on this years ago called Prosecuting Wall Street. It's on Youtube. There's also a great documentary called Inside Job which outlined the whole thing. If they decided to prosecute all of the bad Wall St. folks and your 401k and other investments all tanked and ended up underwater would you also be blaming Obama for taking too much action and destroying the economy in order to appease his supporters and turn America into a socialist paradise?
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Jul 5, 2014 23:15
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Arkane posted:There's 0 doubt that the opportunity to prosecute was there and avoided. Whether you want to ascribe the Obama admin's lack of action to incompetence or corruption is up to you. Yes, that sucked. Obama really dropped the ball on that, Now, on the other hand, I'm pretty sure that McCain/Romney would have persecuted them to the end of the earth. They also would have never followed those nefarious Bush policies, no sir. I'm not defending Obama, he has taken the wrong steps in many areas. But to believe that he hasn't been limited *as gently caress* by all those fuckers in the senate&congress is silly. And thinking that race has nothing to do with the number of people that don't like him is beyond silly, it is downright idiotic. Luckily Hillary is white bread as hell and I'm pretty sure the country can get behind such a man... Oh poo poo!
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Jul 5, 2014 23:23
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motherfucker look like david from roseanne.
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Jul 5, 2014 23:25
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BTW, is LF going to have a temporal re-birth for the 2016 elections? I want to be able to properly enjoy the spectacle.
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Jul 5, 2014 23:26
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Lee Harvey Oswald posted:motherfucker look like david from roseanne. Richard Nixon rats on Pat's pot smoking to her mom. *Becomes President*
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Jul 5, 2014 23:27
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crabcakes66 posted:When one party now has the idea that working together means they get 100% of everything they want your whole assertion falls apart. I mean Republicans came out and said they were going to make it their mission to oppose anything Obama wanted. Even if it was stuff that they themselves created or supported a few years before.  Also Teddy Roosevelt looked quite good when he was young 
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Jul 5, 2014 23:41
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Come on now pick the sexy photo at least
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Jul 5, 2014 23:42
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Ned posted:If they decided to prosecute all of the bad Wall St. folks and your 401k and other investments all tanked and ended up underwater would you also be blaming Obama for taking too much action and destroying the economy in order to appease his supporters and turn America into a socialist paradise? Seriously though, are you convinced that a functioning economy cannot be had without giving free rein to corrupt bastards, instead of prosecuting them as was done after the accounting scandals? E: sorry if I've misunderstood the context of the post Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Jul 5, 2014 |
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Jul 5, 2014 23:43
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Gazpacho posted:If ifs and ands were pots and pans, we'd have no need of tinkers' hands. I'm the type of person that thinks it would be better to send all the folks to jail and let the banks die. But I'm thinking Arkane cares more about his 401k than bankers being thrown in jail and locked up for good and would hate Obama even if Obama did everything he wanted. So I'm asking Arkane if he would accept a world where bankers were prosecuted but his personal investments suffered and be slightly happier with Obama's actions.
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Jul 5, 2014 23:57
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Arkane posted:If you want to see actual racism, click on the I/P thread. The baying for Jewish blood is sickening. Literally Plucky Little Israel.
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Jul 6, 2014 00:03
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Badera posted:Literally Plucky Little Israel. Even better when there are actually reasonable Israeli's in there posting back and forth and the only imbeciles have been guys like Arkane in that thread.
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Jul 6, 2014 00:05
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Arkane posted:NSA? Economy? Right track/wrong track? Inability to pass legislation? Foreign policy? On which of these points do you think Romney/McCain/Bush Jr. could have done a better job, were they president today? Would there be less drone strikes?
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Jul 6, 2014 00:10
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Kajeesus posted:On which of these points do you think Romney/McCain/Bush Jr. could have done a better job, were they president today? Would there be less drone strikes? Even with how much Romney was Anti-Obama on every position, he still talked about how awesome drones were and planned to use the poo poo out of them.
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Jul 6, 2014 00:12
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socialsecurity posted:Even with how much Romney was Anti-Obama on every position, he still talked about how awesome drones were and planned to use the poo poo out of them. And it's not just that. No republican has ever been outspoken when it comes to limiting the use of drones or prosecuting wall street without backpedaling on it immediately.
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Jul 6, 2014 00:15
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A Winner is Jew posted:And it's not just that. No republican has ever been outspoken when it comes to limiting the use of drones or prosecuting wall street without backpedaling on it immediately. To be fair, Rand Paul did. Once. Before clarifying that he didn't want no Gubmint planes watching him in his hot tub, before saying a black youth who robbed a 7/11 being executed immediately via hellfire missile was A OK.
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Arkane posted:Boom, a sound byte from 30 years ago from an actual racist. Nice job Colombo. There's no doubt that there are racists. In both parties. Ascribing 50% of the country disliking Obama to his race is made up bullshit, to reassure yourself that the bad President that you guys went gaga over in this forum in 2008 isn't so bad after all. So did your brain just filter out all the birther poo poo, or...
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Jul 6, 2014 00:21
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Arkane posted:Speaking of foreign policy, you can't leave off the drone strikes. He murdered an American without a trial or due process. Being given an opportunity to argue your innocence, however likely that the person is pure evil and guilty, is a lynchpin right of citizenship. So did Washington
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Jul 6, 2014 00:28
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Fulchrum posted:To be fair, Rand Paul did. Once. Before clarifying that he didn't want no Gubmint planes watching him in his hot tub, before saying a black youth who robbed a 7/11 being executed immediately via hellfire missile was A OK. Before also saying that drones could let the government know who you write letters to or something, because the USPS certainly wouldn't be able to do that.
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Jul 6, 2014 00:33
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Badera posted:Literally Plucky Little Israel. Arkane: Put it all on Israel! Come on, daddy needs a new pair of shoes!
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Jul 6, 2014 00:56
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Arkane posted:That was 6 years ago. U-6 is still at 12%. 0 of the people responsible for said economic crisis were prosecuted, let alone indicted. Are you honestly trying to claim that it would have been better under Republicans? Because if so I'm going to need a lung transplant after how much I'm going to laugh. quote:Only ~25% of Americans think the US is on the right track. The average numbers of his Presidency are probably among the lowest ever. Americans don't know poo poo about poo poo. Many of them thing that Reagan was the best thing since sliced bread after all. quote:Obama had TWO YEARS of bicameral control. Not only control, but they had resounding majorities. The "but only for Congress" meme is bullshit. You've expunged the first two years from your memories apparently. And besides that, the idea that a President cannot work with Congress has 250 years worth of evidence to the contrary. What's a filibuster precious? quote:Boom, a sound byte from 30 years ago from an actual racist. Nice job Colombo. There's no doubt that there are racists. In both parties. Ascribing 50% of the country disliking Obama to his race is made up bullshit, to reassure yourself that the bad President that you guys went gaga over in this forum in 2008 isn't so bad after all. If you want to see actual racism, click on the I/P thread. The baying for Jewish blood is sickening. When the Republican party stops involving people from over 30+ years ago then we'll stop using those soundbytes.
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Just going to quote this again in case the dumbest motherfucker on the forums is still following this thread:Dr. Arbitrary posted:
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Jul 6, 2014 02:04
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McDowell posted:Arkane: Put it all on Israel! Come on, daddy needs a new pair of shoes! The joke's on you, he was betting on Palestine all along   
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Jul 6, 2014 02:08
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Taerkar posted:Are you honestly trying to claim that it would have been better under Republicans? Because if so I'm going to need a lung transplant after how much I'm going to laugh. Well he is Jon Huntsman so yeah I'd say he believes that.
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Arkane, I respond to all of your posts with
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