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Concerning the meaning of Nobitsura Kage I did a quick search and immediatly turned up a forum post with a couple of dudes who at least seem like they know what their talking about. According to them Nobitsura Kage could mean something like "Shadows even burn" or "Even shadows burn" or even something like "This sword burns shadows like wildfire burns fields". That's assuming the developer cared about the translation though.
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Judging by the fact that they called enemies in a Japanese setting 'Trolls' and failed to call birdmen 'Tengu' I don't think the devs cared that much about specific translations.
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Aug 12, 2014 23:21
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It's still an improvement over the original game, where they didn't seem quite sure whether it took place in China or Japan.
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Aug 13, 2014 00:22
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This is skirting around spoiler territory a bit, but burning shadows is a pretty accurate description of what the sword does. I agree that the devs played their mythology fast and loose (and even the China/Japan confusion is present - Gozu, for example, is based on a Chinese demon) but they do seem to have thought their plot through.
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Aug 13, 2014 07:41
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Oh yeah they've put enough work in to get the job done, but it's clear they havn't gone the extra mile either. The game is great, the story is not full of ovbious plot holes and is generally well written, but it's not one of those games where the devs have extensively researched the mythology and minor details of the setting so as to snag the 'extra' opportunities so to speak. To use another example than the odd choice of enemy names; when Wang walked into the 'Cherry blossoms and koi ponds' area and commented about it being stereotypical I was hoping he'd ask why there's no thing that goes doink, or that there would be a thing that goes doink, but the devs missed that opportunity.
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Aug 13, 2014 08:52
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Yeah, the enemies are generic videogame demons but vaguely Asian themed and it does make it bland at times. They really should have pulled some stuff out of Japanese mythology because man there are some freaky looking monsters in there.
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Aug 13, 2014 18:24
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They should have just given them more colour for starters. Grey/flesh-coloured bird men is not exactly eye-catching.
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Aug 13, 2014 18:28
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That might be deliberate since they gain a fair bit more color when they enrage - this way it's easier to pick out the larger threats in a crowd.
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Aug 13, 2014 18:31
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I overlooked this LP until recently for pretty much the same reasons I overlooked the game--I wasn't excepting anything worthwhile. But wow this really looks like a lot of fun and now I'm sad I ever felt otherwise. Wasn't there an LP of Hard Reset going at one point? I don't see it in the LP archives.
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Aug 18, 2014 01:51
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Oblivion4568238 posted:Nope, they are both Trolls, and the concepts for the tall shield and round shield guys are right next to each other. Looking closely at the shield guys in the video they are actually pretty ovbiously Oni, the big frowny glaring faces on their shields are Oni faces too. I can only conclude they deliberately misnamed some of these guys because I can't imagine how they could have accidentally made something that looks like an Oni in a Shadow Warrior game and then call it a Troll.
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Aug 18, 2014 14:08
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Lotish posted:I overlooked this LP until recently for pretty much the same reasons I overlooked the game--I wasn't excepting anything worthwhile. But wow this really looks like a lot of fun and now I'm sad I ever felt otherwise. there was one but it got abandoned halfway (?) through. IIRC it was Jossirossi and someone else
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Aug 18, 2014 15:38
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double nine posted:there was one but it got abandoned halfway (?) through. IIRC it was Jossirossi and someone else Yeah it was Jossirossi and ChocolateDonuts, sadly their sleeping dogs lp seems to have gone the same way.
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Aug 18, 2014 18:26
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Neruz posted:Looking closely at the shield guys in the video they are actually pretty ovbiously Oni, the big frowny glaring faces on their shields are Oni faces too. Maybe it's a meta-joke? Like you'd expect them to be called Oni, but instead...
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Schnedwob posted:Maybe it's a meta-joke? Like you'd expect them to be called Oni, but instead... Yeah that's what I mean, the artists clearly knew what an Oni is so calling it a 'Troll' instead has to have been deliberate, especially as Oni is more accurately translated as Ogre or Demon-Ogre, not Troll 
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If I'm understanding right, since there's several varieties of what I would call Oni, I think calling different varieties by other names makes a certain sense.
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Eh as mythical creatures go Oni are fairly consistent in depiction; you can come across some really wild ones but usually they are depicted as hideous gigantic ogre-like creatures with sharp claws, wild hair, two horns growing from their heads and exaggerated facial features. They are also generally depicted wearing tiger-skin loincloths and carrying big iron clubs that they wield with incredible strength which leads to an expression about being like an Oni with an iron club; aka undefeatable. The details usually vary, skin colour is typically red or blue but can be almost any colour, facial hair varies etc etc. But the overall image of 'a large horned ogre with an iron club' is pretty common across almost all depictions of Oni. As translations go 'Troll' isn't really wrong or anything, its just unusual. Oni is usually translated as Demon, Ogre or Demon-Ogre, the Troll translation is pretty uncommon. Neruz fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Aug 19, 2014 |
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Nekomimi-Maiden posted:...and they decided that Orochi wasn't evil and monstrous and destructive enough, and they appended "zilla", as in Godzilla. So his boss was basically named Lucifer Satandemon. Zilla is in keeping with the plot of the original Shadow Warrior, where that Lo Wang had spent his whole career as an assassin for "Master Zilla," who ends up as the final boss of the main campaign. This Lo Wang is a lot younger, and with a few exceptions this reboot could just be explaining the same Lo Wang's early life.
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J.theYellow posted:Zilla is in keeping with the plot of the original Shadow Warrior, where that Lo Wang had spent his whole career as an assassin for "Master Zilla," who ends up as the final boss of the main campaign. This Lo Wang is a lot younger, and with a few exceptions this reboot could just be explaining the same Lo Wang's early life. I think the whole thing is really so that at some point, someone can accuse him of playing god.
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J.theYellow posted:Zilla is in keeping with the plot of the original Shadow Warrior, where that Lo Wang had spent his whole career as an assassin for "Master Zilla," who ends up as the final boss of the main campaign. This Lo Wang is a lot younger, and with a few exceptions this reboot could just be explaining the same Lo Wang's early life. Not really but we'll get into that much later on in the game. In other news, I'm back, so the next update should come on schedule on Tuesday. Spoilers: I die. edit: It strikes me that I should've named the thread something along the lines of "No, really, it's actually pretty drat good". anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Aug 22, 2014 |
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The general consensus on the web seems to be that Shadow Warrior 2013 is a good remake that successfully manages to capture the style and impression of the original but at the same time updates the gameplay and graphics to a modern state. So far from what I've seen in this LP I concur.
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double nine posted:there was one but it got abandoned halfway (?) through. IIRC it was Jossirossi and someone else poo poo got called out. We both had a lot of life drop on us. I'd love to still finish it at some point. Flying Wild Hog make some really just fun games where everything is blowing up all the time. anilEhilated is doing a great job showing off that fact here too. One thing he missed is that in the first level you can avoid getting in your car and just walk down the road. It takes like a full minute to get to the end and when you do the skybox is revealed to be a sheet and behind it are the robots you see in the next level (themselves a Hard Reset reference) but placed in the Hard Reset city setting. Not sure if he wants to show that off but I thought it was cute.
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JossiRossi posted:poo poo got called out. We both had a lot of life drop on us. I'd love to still finish it at some point. Flying Wild Hog make some really just fun games where everything is blowing up all the time. anilEhilated is doing a great job showing off that fact here too. I actually put it in a separate video but probably didn't link to it obviously enough.
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Oh! Sorry about that then. It's not uncommon for me to follow OPs but not the thread, so its easy for me to miss side content sometimes. VVV He recently started some school for programming (I am so proud of him  ) so that may put a damper on things unfortunately, but he's not forgotten it.
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JossiRossi posted:poo poo got called out. We both had a lot of life drop on us. I'd love to still finish it at some point. Know if donut will return to the sleeping dogs lp at some point? I needs me leg breaking. Neruz posted:The general consensus on the web seems to be that Shadow Warrior 2013 is a good remake that successfully manages to capture the style and impression of the original but at the same time updates the gameplay and graphics to a modern state. So far from what I've seen in this LP I concur. Yeah, this is pretty much the best reboot I've seen.
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Youtube is probably still crunching it but we're back on track with Chapter 8: Not Quite A Genie.
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anilEhilated posted:Youtube is probably still crunching it but we're back on track with Chapter 8: Not Quite A Genie. I think this is the shipping company they were referencing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maersk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjD9VvhXJrE
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Good to see that you recovered, AnilEhilated. Probably my favourite episode so far, just for your delivery. Really laughed at the part where you were trying to finish explaining the demon.
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No Gravitas posted:I think this is the shipping company they were referencing. Yes, there's also containers showing "China Shipping" and "Evergreen" who are real shipping companies too, both Asian as a matter of fact. Angry Lobster fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Aug 26, 2014 |
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Aug 26, 2014 23:09
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The "oh my God, Becky" line is from the infamous American pop song "Baby Got Back."
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Angry Lobster posted:Yes, there's also containers showing "China Shipping" and "Evergreen" who are real shipping companies too, both Asian as a matter of fact. China Shipping just sounds so fake that it has to be real.
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Demon Heads were always pretty great to me because they meant, A) You could empty one on a warlord to do some massive damage without wasting too many other bullets because you would get a replacement just for killing it. and B) It was the Slow Down button for my lovely computer. Every other bit of gameplay in this game went pretty smoothly, until I started firing the laggy beam of death at things. It actually got me out of some situations sometimes because I had more time to react! AnilEhilated also demonstrated briefly why I used the shotgun on the fliers, sometimes you kill more then one in a shot! It also sort of showed how it just one shots crawlers more often then not, even if you aren't really aiming at them it can neuter them by cutting off arms and such, and saves on other bullets all around. On the subject of dying, that fight with the multiple harridens and the shaman was probably the first place I actually died playing this game! It should not be understated just how much they jump around and ALWAYS appear behind you, and if they enrage you are in big trouble if there is more then one still. Hella fun to play even then, this game has just the right amount of difficulty on Normal mode, and they really do ramp up fights as the game goes on exceptionally well!
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The secret with an extra fight is one of my favorites. I rather like having more fun in my games.
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"You made armour for the demon invaders. Shut the gently caress up." I am crying from laughter with the delivery of that line, oh man why don't I own this game.
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As "that person with the artbook" I am always happy to help on providing the names of new enemies. They're Warpers. Nothing fancy. Actually, that goes for about every basic enemy, doesn't it? Crawlers crawl across walls and ceilings. Mothers lay explosive eggs. Birdmen are... well, birdmen. And, so, Warpers warp.
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Oblivion4568238 posted:As "that person with the artbook" I am always happy to help on providing the names of new enemies. Honestly thought that they would be called Banshees, the teleporting demons. They really went basic with the naming convention didn't they?
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Great LP. I knew SW2013 was at least decent, but watching the first couple updates convinced me to buy a copy (sale price, fortunately) and play it myself. I'll check out the rest of the updates when I'm finished to see all the blasted secret areas I've missed. The game really reminds me of a more juvenile Jedi Knight, with more fluid combat controls. The katana (lightsaber) is obviously going to be your weapon of choice in most situations, but most of the other weapons aren't useless either. The skill that lets you absorb health from every successful ki move... that one's really nice. Combine that with the Zelda-like spin attack and you'll never need another medpac again. If you don't suck... Sometimes I suck.
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Oblivion4568238 posted:As "that person with the artbook" I am always happy to help on providing the names of new enemies. I'm pretty sure they're another creature out of Japanese mythology; the Onibaba or Demon Hag. This would fit the themes we've seen thus far as most of the enemies have been various different kinds of Oni. While Onibaba aren't known for teleporting or dual-wielding swords they are typically described as having wild white hair, horns etc and are typically depicted wielding a knife and they definitely have the 'Oni Face' Noh Mask like the other Onis. So yeah, probably Onibaba.
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Spudd posted:"You made armour for the demon invaders. Shut the gently caress up." I love all the quips that show just how much of a wannabe Wang is at the whole hero thing, that's a fairly unique approach for an action game. There's one line in particular I've been trying to get Wang to say pretty much since the start and he stubbornly refuses to: if you kill a demon with the dogvolver, he yells something like "Make my day, chump! poo poo, I always get that one wrong!" On the other hand, him mangling some of the references makes it even hard to track them so thanks everyone for pointing them out - it kind of makes me wonder just how far out of their way did the Polish developers have to go in order to make all those jokes that work only in English/the Americans would get...
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anilEhilated posted:I love all the quips that show just how much of a wannabe Wang is at the whole hero thing, that's a fairly unique approach for an action game. There's one line in particular I've been trying to get Wang to say pretty much since the start and he stubbornly refuses to: if you kill a demon with the dogvolver, he yells something like "Make my day, chump! poo poo, I always get that one wrong!" Us Poles have a hell of a hard-on for American culture. Probably a holdover from the Communist days where the USA was seen as that wondrous land of dreams and wealth, or something, I guess? Oh and also I've been following this thread from day one and I really dig it, both the game itself and your commentary. Keep up the good work, man! cis_eraser_420 fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Aug 27, 2014 |
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I was surprised to see Chuck Bloody Norris advertising a bank when I went to Wroclaw a while ago.
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