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Waltzing Along posted:Discworld is a vehicle by which Pratchett satirizes our world. Until he got alzheimers and started writing poop jokes. the recent ones suck but i suspect it's more to do with him having done this poo poo for like 30 years with no breaks, and getting elderly famous man syndrome, than the alzheimers.
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i liked that one book with the elves being all morose and graceful and about halfway through it turns out there was a dragon involved with the bad guys plot
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Jul 5, 2014 11:59
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Are the original Conan the Barbarian stories worth reading?
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Xaris posted:OP, if anyone recommends malazan books to you, sever what why the malazan books are basically just your standard "author writes their D&D campaign into a novel" as literally any other fantasy novel, except he's less retarded about women and doesn't assume the reader is a complete idiot they're pretty okay
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Jul 5, 2014 12:19
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Fonzarelli posted:Are the original Conan the Barbarian stories worth reading? yes if your into that kind of stuff try it, their not long
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i remember the Earth Sea series being pretty good and not at all trashy Harry Potter is good if you still have a bright and unjaded outlook BlueChocolate fucked around with this message at 12:37 on Jul 5, 2014 |
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Jul 5, 2014 12:33
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Neurosis posted:Gene Wolfe's Wizard Knight duology is pretty good and has all the fantasy tropes. It's not as obtuse as most of Gene's work, either. I like you. If you like Dragonlance, try Forgotten Realms books. There are lots of different authors who do them, some good some poor. When your taste matures a bit, try The Wizard of Earthsea books by Ursula Le Guin. Also Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser books by Fritz Leiber.
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boom boom boom posted:Nine Princes in Amber Also I will recommend the Bazil Broketail series by Christopher Rowley. They have sentient dragons that use swords and fight in a knock-off roman army.  I loved them when iwas like 12, and re-read them in highschool and stil lenjoyed them then. It's been at least 10 years since I read one though.
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Jul 5, 2014 12:37
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:what why Undead space velociraptors with swords for arms. They're loving amazing.
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Jul 5, 2014 12:37
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A Canticle for Liebowitz was excellent. I think that counts. It is so hard to find decent fantasy.
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Jul 5, 2014 12:39
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is joe abercrombie any good because i've been recommended his stuff but im not a big fantasy reader
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Jul 5, 2014 12:42
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RedHotKick posted:is joe abercrombie any good because i've been recommended his stuff but im not a big fantasy reader yeah his books are good the first one in the first law trilogy isn't GREAT but it picks up from there and the standalones range from decent to really good (the heroes is the best, but you need to have read the trilogy first)
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Op the correct answer is the malazan books of the fallen, they are loving full of dragons, red ones, black ones, one made of anti magic dust, undead ones, chained ones, ones that change into other things, it's a dragon fest. The first book may be hard to get through but there's definitely a dragon in there too. After that it's just dragons dragons dragons and space raptors with blade arms and magic and flint swords.
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Jul 5, 2014 12:49
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is wheel of time actually good because i've heard stuff about it but when a dude is writing books for 30 years about a single character poo poo tends to be really mary sue and awful
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Jul 5, 2014 12:54
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Robo Reagan posted:is wheel of time actually good because i've heard stuff about it but when a dude is writing books for 30 years about a single character poo poo tends to be really mary sue and awful read it if you want to throw up in your mouth every three pages or so
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HampHamp posted:Op the correct answer is the malazan books of the fallen, they are loving full of dragons, red ones, black ones, one made of anti magic dust, undead ones, chained ones, ones that change into other things, it's a dragon fest. The first book may be hard to get through but there's definitely a dragon in there too. After that it's just dragons dragons dragons and space raptors with blade arms and magic and flint swords. i'm a little more than halfway through the second book and i already have dragon fatigue nobody who knew me as a kid/teenager would even believe this was possible but it's true
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Robo Reagan posted:is wheel of time actually good because i've heard stuff about it but when a dude is writing books for 30 years about a single character poo poo tends to be really mary sue and awful The first book is good. Second is OK. After that there's about 11,000 pages of poo poo. Tuxedo Catfish posted:i'm a little more than halfway through the second book and i already have dragon fatigue I tried reading those books, but I couldn't follow them. It wasn't interesting enough for me to make the effort of keeping all the facts and weird loving names they through at me straight in my head.
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If you liked The Black Company okay, Cook also did a series of fantasy detective noir books collectively called "Garrett P.I." Ogres and elves and wizards and the mafia and dames with murder mysteries, p. much. Imagine John D. MacDonald's Travis McGee books but in magical medieval St. Louis/Chicago instead of Florida. Not epic fantasy, but fantasy nonetheless. There are a buttload of them starting with Sweet Silver Blues and all titled [adjective][metal][noun]. Cliches every paragraph and almost everyone is sassy and/or sarcastic and/or a hot chick who wants to bone the main character. They're great and dumb. I mean his sidekick is a centuries-dead psychic fat thing and his best friend is a psychotic "dark elf" restauranteur with mob ties. You really can't go wrong with that (and with suitably low expectations). And if you want something more non-Tolkienesque Lois McMaster Bujold of SF's Vorkosigan fame did a couple of interesting lightly romantic fantasy series, the better of which starts with The Curse of Chalion then The Paladin of Souls and The Hallowed Hunt. Humans only, but with an active pantheon of beneficent gods and some related magic. It's better if you don't try to make any allegorical connection to real-world religions though. Also occasionally dongs and true love. The other series is less rewarding and replaces the gods thing with cranky magical rangers, plucky mary sues, a weird evil monster plague and more sex. It's called "The Sharing Knife" and you should probably only read them if you really like her writing style. Or kind of creepy romances with a 30-plus-year age difference. ThaGhettoJew fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Jul 5, 2014 |
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The Dregs posted:I tried reading those books, but I couldn't follow them. It wasn't interesting enough for me to make the effort of keeping all the facts and weird loving names they through at me straight in my head. half his character names really are "terrible accident in the alphabet factory" fantasy bullshit. the weird thing is the other half are surprisingly memorable and simple ("Whiskeyjack") and you wonder why he can't just do that all the time he's not actually that hard to follow though. like it's not some Gene Wolfe poo poo where you actually have to work for it, whenever the Malazan books reveal something they've been foreshadowing there's practically a giant blinking neon finger sign saying "LOOK IT'S THAT THING THE SMUG ASCENDANT HINTED AT 300 PAGES AGO"
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Robo Reagan posted:is wheel of time actually good because i've heard stuff about it but when a dude is writing books for 30 years about a single character poo poo tends to be really mary sue and awful they're pretty middling i mean they're not absolutely horrible but they would have been ten times better if he'd had an editor who put his or her foot down about bloating and his lovely writing tics and how all the women except like two are absolute cunts also if he didn't make up lame ways to swear and had just used real profanity it would have been better and nothing happens in books 7-10
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basically Erikson writes like a mystery novel author instead of like a fantasy author, the explanation and exposition dump is at the end instead of the beginning you don't have to figure it out in advance it's just more fun if you do Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Jul 5, 2014 |
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BlueChocolate posted:i remember the Earth Sea series being pretty good and not at all trashy yeah their good
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the children of Hurin by tolkien is really really good. its a tragic tale of revenge in a nordic saga style thing
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Malazan is really good and to be honest I can't get into any other fantasy poo poo after reading it, apart from some classic stuff like Jack Vance I guess I tried reading Locke Lamora and that's the last time I read something based on a loving Book Barn recommendation
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Jul 5, 2014 13:58
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dresden files it's about a goon who can do magic
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Joe Abercrombie's stuff is superb and probably the best and self-aware fantasy around today Robin Hobb's farseer series is also very good if you're not triggered by gays and/or a talking wolf
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the joy of sex
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Anything done by Salvatore is awesome. Especially the books that have Drizzt.
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wheel of time hasnt aged well. it has this really annoying male/female dynamic that makes you just want to punch everyone in the face. this was less noticeable if you started reading the series as a young adult. the first book is ok as a standalone. stop there.
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FAGGY CLAUSE posted:wheel of time hasnt aged well. it has this really annoying male/female dynamic that makes you just want to punch everyone in the face. this was less noticeable if you started reading the series as a young adult. the first book is ok as a standalone. stop there. Basically if you learn who the interesting characters are and skip all the other characters chapters ( about 3/4 of them) you get a pretty neat fantasy book where after 3000 years in writing the fat bastard author decides to die before the last one or two books are finished.
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Brandon Sanderson did a decent job tying it all together at the end. I got sick of it around book 7 or 8 and skipped to listening to his last 2 on recording. I didn't really feel like I missed anything. Maybe they can give Sanderson a call when old GRRM chokes to death on a honeyed locust.
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ohsosad posted:Basically if you learn who the interesting characters are and skip all the other characters chapters ( about 3/4 of them) you get a pretty neat fantasy book where after 3000 years in writing the fat bastard author decides to die before the last one or two books are finished. Mat Cauthon, cut everything else out.
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I liked Gregory Maguire's Wicked, but that may not be the trashy fantasy you're looking for. Also War of the Flowers by Tad Williams.
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psyopmonkey posted:Theyre rather childish, but REDWALL!!!! This is a good post and I second it. I really like China Mieville, he does very new-age urban fantasy stuff, lots of sweet body horror and awesome monsters.
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The Dregs posted:Brandon Sanderson did a decent job tying it all together at the end. I got sick of it around book 7 or 8 and skipped to listening to his last 2 on recording. I didn't really feel like I missed anything. No it should be abercrombie that finishes that
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Everybody Poops
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sether01 posted:NYT Best selling series!!!!1 I sorta want to go back and reread them, but I'm afraid that I will be disappointed in my younger self I feel exactly the same way bro. I loved the poo poo out of Dragonlance with cheesiness and all. I don't know if I could do it at this point in my life though.
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Abercrombie is good and doesn't have too much wizard and dragon high fantasy bullshit, and the characters are terrible people but likeable + funny. Lies of Locke Lamora's 1st book was great, then rapidly went to poo poo. Mieville owns, The Scar is great and Iron Council is the LFest fantasy novel. Plus his kinda not-fantasy stuff like The City&The City and Embassytown are also great. In fact none of his books are bad, even Kraken was entertaining albeit dumb.
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the epic of gilgamesh the theogony the mabinogion le morte d'arthur the faerie queen paradise lost prometheus unbound
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