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Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
This is a good thread to talk about how evil the whole world is yes.

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Black Baby Goku
Apr 2, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Pornographic Memory posted:

I know Spec Ops is a pretentious video game retelling of Apocalypse Now/Heart of Darkness but I still liked it anyway because not enough video games that admit American military intervention turns everything it touches to poo poo with no upside. Like seriously screw the Russians or North Koreans or Chinese or whatever, if you want an evil army to provide random dudes for you to shoot by the truckload, the US military has a track record as good as any for loving up random countries and killing scads of innocent people

Metal Gear Solid? the only game with enough balls to tackle the military industrial complex and also predict (accurately) the future of war? loving noob. Piece of poo poo.

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

Beef Waifu posted:

This is a good thread to talk about how evil the whole world is yes.

its pretty evil

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
When I play video games I definitely want to hear about things like politics and gender.

Stick Figure Mafia
Dec 11, 2004

Pornographic Memory posted:

I know Spec Ops is a pretentious video game retelling of Apocalypse Now/Heart of Darkness but I still liked it anyway because not enough video games that admit American military intervention turns everything it touches to poo poo with no upside. Like seriously screw the Russians or North Koreans or Chinese or whatever, if you want an evil army to provide random dudes for you to shoot by the truckload, the US military has a track record as good as any for loving up random countries and killing scads of innocent people

please don't encourage the shooting of our military men and women.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

driver san francisco has some cool writing theres this part where you control a car but youre looking through the eyes of a guy driving another car thats chasing it

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

also its a journey of self discovery as tanner comes to terms with almost killing his partner :(

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Stick Figure Mafia posted:

please don't encourage the shooting of our military men and women.

im not encouraging anybody to shoot anybody, only encouraging others to encourage people to shoot the footsoldiers of the great satan

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
What kind of hosed up video games do you have to play to conclude that what's missing from them is a serious discussion on our foreign policy from a hard left-wing perspective

Stick Figure Mafia
Dec 11, 2004

in bioshock infinite you arrived at a racist floating city filled with people who still had slaves and were terrible. but then when you free the slaves you realize "wow, they were right to keep these monsters locked up" as the blacks go on to kill and maim innocents

the real answer is somewhere in the middle

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
well if i want to play as a badass american patriot gunning down poor brown people there's a call of duty for me every year and a bunch of games besides, but where do i get to shoot americans aside from multiplayer?

edit: i forgot about bioshock but then again bioshock is even shittier than spec ops

Stick Figure Mafia
Dec 11, 2004

Pornographic Memory posted:

well if i want to play as a badass american patriot gunning down poor brown people there's a call of duty for me every year and a bunch of games besides, but where do i get to shoot americans aside from multiplayer?

oh so now "poor brown people" aren't americans?

SirDrone
Jul 23, 2013

I am so sick of these star wars
I think Darkseed 2 is the greatest writing achievement ever.

Blackheart
Mar 22, 2013

Stick Figure Mafia posted:

oh so now "poor brown people" aren't americans?

American brown people are incredibly privileged, they're practically white.

Too Shy Guy
Jun 14, 2003


I have destroyed more of your kind than I can count.



Random Stranger posted:

How many scripts for knock-offs of popular action films did you have rejected by movie studios until you finally retreated to writing for games?

Please, don't insult me. I worked my rear end off in QA to get such a prestigious position.

mabels big day posted:

What games have you worked on?

MapleStory.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Stick Figure Mafia posted:

oh so now "poor brown people" aren't americans?

well poo poo you got me im trippin all over myself here trying to hit bingo

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
What is an American? A miserable pile of bullllllllllllshit!

Protocol 5
Sep 23, 2004

"I can't wait until cancer inevitably chokes the life out of Curt Schilling."
A conversation on writing by men with personal libraries consisting solely of books with covers depicting a man brandishing a gun and/or sword in front of a dragon and/or spaceship.

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010
Spec Ops the Line is a great game because it made me think, whoa! War is bad. Pretty epic for a game.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

Fag Boy Jim posted:

Anyway the best writing in video games these days is probably in Corruption of Champions or something like that.

Which DOTA clone is that?

psymonkey
May 22, 2006

This post is full of pretty awesome holes. I like all the holes in this post.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

Dan Didio posted:

Which DOTA clone is that?

The best one.

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Dan Didio posted:

Which DOTA clone is that?

Ahahahahahahah.

You should Google it. Please don't.

Angrymantium
Jul 19, 2007
Resistant to everything
I stumbled onto CoC once and all I can say is that it didn't have what I wanted. Lousy incomplete game that would nonetheless appeal to most goons.

Rob Filter
Jan 19, 2009

League of laughs.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

focus on character - league of legends lead writer

'character'

LordHippoman
May 30, 2013

I, frankly, want this smug Jagen to be my avatar on all forms of social media immediately.
My favorite MOBA lore is still the dota one where a man is made of space and the lore is "Dunno what the gently caress he is, but he shits black holes". I also like the LoL character who is a giant bear. He shoots lightning and roars.

quote:

focus on character - league of legends lead writer

'character'

She said this, then proceeded to cut up all the biographies to remove any references to the actual League Of Legends, because that's ruining her creative vision. Also responsible for the Mass Effect Space Baby.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

Callick posted:

I think the writing in L.A. Noire is very good and is one of the only cinematic style modern games that I thought was really engaging and had me suspending my disbelief multiple times.

It's bad.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
LA Noire was a game I played recently and I was like "Man, this is really boring and Cole seems like a loving sociopath."

clone on the phone
Aug 5, 2003

Beef Waifu posted:

LA Noire was a game I played recently and I was like "Man, this is really boring and Cole seems like a loving sociopath."

My friend was one of the writers for LA Noire. I'll have to ask her about it sometime, since I never played it.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

I played LA Noire and thought 'This would make a good film but as a game it loving sucks.'

So I don't break the OP's rules; the interrogation options don't always line up with what the character says, it's linear as gently caress despite it's boasts about free roaming investigations, and the main character is revealed to have been having an affair for absolutely no loving reason halfway through.

Plus it's by Rockstar, so it's full of bullshit mission failure criteria all over the place.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Beef Waifu posted:

LA Noire was a game I played recently and I was like "Man, this is really boring and Cole seems like a loving sociopath."

the best part of LA Noire is how you select something like 'question' and the detective dude gets all YOU STUPID BITCH HOW ABOUT YOU TELL ME THE TRUTH AND STOP ACTING LIKE I'M AN IDIOT OR DO YOU WANT TO END BEHIND BARS?!

even to some traumatised teenage girl. owns.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

Bobby Deluxe posted:

So I don't break the OP's rules;

lol

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Bobby Deluxe posted:

I played LA Noire and thought 'This would make a good film but as a game it loving sucks.'

So I don't break the OP's rules; the interrogation options don't always line up with what the character says, it's linear as gently caress despite it's boasts about free roaming investigations, and the main character is revealed to have been having an affair for absolutely no loving reason halfway through.

Plus it's by Rockstar, so it's full of bullshit mission failure criteria all over the place.

It's a good example of how decent gameplay and writing and didn't mesh. The story is more or less a mash-up of L.A Confidential, Chinatown, and the Black Dahlia murders. When I first started playing it my roommate was really impressed with how good the characters looked, but when it go to the interrogation, the facial expressions/signs of guilt were so exaggerated it was like clown mode was turned on. Plus the "hunt for clues" part was just tedious.

The story wasn't half bad; corrupt LA men of power doing what they want, dogged police detectives trying to solve mysterious crimes. The Arson investigation was one of my favorite game stories ever. It just really suffered from trying to be open-world 1940s LA with nothing exciting to do aside from the main quest. The entire city was more or less traffic blocking you from the next objective, and the random street crime you had to chase down because you couldn't shoot the criminal.

Rockstar probably knows they dropped the ball on that one and made no plans for a sequel. Red Dead Redemption 2 on the other hand will probably be amazing.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

look if we don't have rules we are no better than animals

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Banner Saga and Gunpoint were well written. They provided great dialogue while informing the player on gameplay mechanics and advancing the story. I can't recall any other games with "good writing."

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008


MGS2 is the best written video game.

tupac holocron
Apr 23, 2008
The son of Maryam is about to descend amongst you as a correct ruler, he will break the cross and kill the pig!








Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012
Can't wait for the Homestuck game...the first real art game.

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A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008

Rasmussen posted:

My friend was one of the writers for LA Noire. I'll have to ask her about it sometime, since I never played it.

Ask her why for a mystery game with such intense focus on the story, it made god drat Encyclopedia Brown look intellectually challenging.

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