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Dolphin posted:i bet if you had aborted you'd also say you were glad you did Actually, I think we would have felt miserable and guilty, but who knows if that's post-hoc rationalisation. BUSH 2112 posted:some people don't abort fetuses that are developing without brains and whatnot because they care more about themselves and their stupid ideals than keeping someone from spending a life full of misery and suffering, hth My initial argument was about quality of life, but Downs people have a pretty good quality of life. They are generally happier than the population. mookface posted:Because blessed are the handicapped and disabled, teaching humility and that every life has value Something along those lines, but unironically. On that note: Xaris posted:pretty much because of crazy religious people. the few parents i know of downies are jehova witnesses and mormons. Not everything can and should be measured by economic worth. In our case there were fertility issues and this might be our only child, and that was probably a factor. therattle fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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therattle posted:In our case there were fertility issues and this might be our only child, and that was probably a factor. Haha, I can't decide if not being able to have kids or only being able to have Down's kids is a shittier deal. Actually, I can. Not having kids is loving awesome.
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therattle posted:Actually, I think we would have felt miserable and guilty, but who knows if that's post-hoc rationalisation. holy poo poo don't go into down syndrome abortion threads if you're the parent of a kid with downs, what kind of crazy masochist are you?
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So in this thread we have downs dad desperately trying to rationalize a bad decision because he would rather force a child to live with a debilitating medical condition their entire life, only to be neglected after his parents die, than to adopt a perfectly healthy child that needed a home. What an idiot.
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therattle posted:Actually, I think we would have felt miserable and guilty, but who knows if that's post-hoc rationalisation.
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Hobohemian posted:So in this thread we have downs dad desperately trying to rationalize a bad decision because he would rather force a child to live with a debilitating medical condition their entire life, only to be neglected after his parents die, than to adopt a perfectly healthy child that needed a home. Son, I love you so much that we didn't eliminate you before you could be born with a mental condition and instead let you be born with a mental condition that will cripple you for life. Only a Down's person would get that logic.
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therattle posted:My initial argument was about quality of life, but Downs people have a pretty good quality of life. They are generally happier than the population. Not really the point. Refusing to abort a fetus with a debilitating condition because of some idealistic view of humanity is essentially the same as choosing to give that person the condition (if you live in a state where abortion is actually relatively easy to get.) Quality of life isn't the point, the point is that you're going to be robbing an actual adult human being of agency, rather than terminating an unconscious fetus.
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also why don't we call them downies, that's much quicker
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Dolphin posted:also why don't we call them downies, that's much quicker if they want to have sex with horses can we call them brownies? porkchop_express fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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People need to look on the bright side. Trisomy 21 is the least awful trisomy (other than those involving X and Y).
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I keep rooting my brain around for the Sarah Palin joke that I know can be made in this thread, but I can't seem to find the drat thing. E: Trigger warning for the downs Dad ad anyone else offended by downs syndrome jokes Oswald Kesselpot fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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BUSH 2112 posted:Not really the point. Refusing to abort a fetus with a debilitating condition because of some idealistic view of humanity is essentially the same as choosing to give that person the condition (if you live in a state where abortion is actually relatively easy to get.) Quality of life isn't the point, the point is that you're going to be robbing an actual adult human being of agency, rather than terminating an unconscious fetus. Not everyone with downs has lack of agency, there are some very mild cases i actually had a house inspection done by a guy with very mild downs. Whether or not that was a good decision on my part is another discussion entirely. Dude completely missed the fact that the oven didn't work.
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Sinten posted:holy poo poo don't go into down syndrome abortion threads if you're the parent of a kid with downs, what kind of crazy masochist are you? You make a good point!
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Probably a grand total of two people in this thread who've ever actually interacted with someone with Down syndrome for more than five minutes total.
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dik-dik posted:Probably a grand total of two people in this thread who've ever actually interacted with someone with Down syndrome for more than five minutes total.
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Everyone loves a puppy right? Then the thing grows up and you see another puppy and are like drat those are cute. A downs baby is a puppy forever.
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Chuck Tanner posted:but then we wouldnt have rcman nice try forums user chuck tanner
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The miracle of life! People subjecting other human beings to a life of physical, mental and social hardship because they're too loving selfish to look beyond "yay we're having a baby!". People who wouldn't accept buying a broken car that has no consciousness gleefully birthing a human reject that does. Makes no sense.
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Melchior posted:Not everyone with downs has lack of agency, there are some very mild cases a mild case sound worse because they can be more aware of how deficient they are
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Most people do actually abort down syndrome babies. The few you see are from occasional idiots who think it is a good idea to carry a retard fetus to term. The medical community actually does lots of wise but controversial things on the quiet.
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Like, they don't say this in public, but a lot of terminally ill people go out quietly on a morphine overdose.
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dik-dik posted:Probably a grand total of two people in this thread who've ever actually interacted with someone with Down syndrome for more than five minutes total. when I was a kid the education system was retarded (a little down syndrome joke there for you) and they mixed in kids with mental handicaps into normal schools to teach normal kids a lesson about accepting others? It was loving stupid and failed horribly because people with mental disabilities obviously need very special care. so yea, i found the down syndrome kid in the toilet with his pants down on the floor and he'd shat himself and got poo poo everywhere. e: I didn't personally witness this but my sister, who's 4 years older than me, said in her class the down syndrome kid used to flip her bean in the playground all the time. like constantly. hemale in pain fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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People with disabilities aren't happier than anyone else. They experience the same emotions we do, for the same reasons.
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mucocele posted:People with disabilities aren't happier than anyone else. They experience the same emotions we do, for the same reasons.
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congrats on independently rediscovering nazi eugenics, been there, done that, didn't work out. just remember that every single poster on this forum wouldn't even exist if they had an easy test for autism risk factors in the 80s/90s, everyone except me is seen as unworthy of life by someone, somewhere. god bless 
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Dolphin posted:even people living with lobotomies? Well, maybe not them.
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waitwhatno posted:congrats on independently rediscovering nazi eugenics, been there, done that, didn't work out. just remember that every single poster on this forum wouldn't even exist if they had an easy test for autism risk factors in the 80s/90s, everyone except me is seen as unworthy of life by someone, somewhere. god bless little tiny bit different than aborting alive people friend
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waitwhatno posted:congrats on independently rediscovering nazi eugenics, been there, done that, didn't work out. just remember that every single poster on this forum wouldn't even exist if they had an easy test for autism risk factors in the 80s/90s, everyone except me is seen as unworthy of life by someone, somewhere. god bless Actually, most Downs babies are aborted, to the benefit of everyone involved.
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dontcareaboutname posted:hey now lots of them get work , because lots of states give a tax break for hiring them equal to most of their yearly pay. It's not in their job description but those guys are so tightly knit they know by the size of the other smile that not only didn't they get some but if their mrs shaved her snatch, took it up the arse, gave head and swallowed of just have a hand job.
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therattle posted:Downs people have a pretty good quality of life. They are generally happier than the population. because they're loving retarded
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waitwhatno posted:congrats on independently rediscovering nazi eugenics, been there, done that, didn't work out. just remember that every single poster on this forum wouldn't even exist if they had an easy test for autism risk factors in the 80s/90s, everyone except me is seen as unworthy of life by someone, somewhere. god bless
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:as a german i think im qualified to say that eugenics is good and owns I KNEW IT!!!! i'm watching you, fritz
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dik-dik posted:Probably a grand total of two people in this thread who've ever actually interacted with someone with Down syndrome for more than five minutes total. Yes, mainly due to the miracle of abortion.
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No matter what, I don't think anyone is ever going to say "gee, the world could really use more Down's cases" in response to the whole most Down's fetuses are aborted thing. It would be pretty hosed up to suggest more people should have a mental disability.
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Lazyfire posted:It would be pretty hosed up to suggest more people should have a mental disability. you need to meet more parents of retarded children
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