|
aparmenideanmonad posted:The implausible thing here is that the Japanese police are supposed to take orders from these US agents, but this is clearly an intentional plot point. Yeah, this was mostly my beef right here.
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2014 12:23
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 25, 2024 12:58 |
|
|
Kolos posted:Even "evil" fbi would be ok. But going to the airport to stop the bomb, the evil L, or the chess thing... oh the chess thing, is like finding were osama is but instead of sending a team to get the guy you send him love letters to lure him to go on a date to make him fall in your trap Does the letter start with "Dear 'Osa-kun', 'Bin-kun', or 'La-chan'"?
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2014 13:03
|
|
|
Indiana_Krom posted:It makes sense when you realize that the FBI/Americans are complete irredeemable cackling villains in this show. As the final episode comes up, expect the Japanese to save the day and show their superiority over the villainous Americans. So I agree, episode killed the show for American viewers. Eh, I feel ambivalent towards the usual villains being 9/10 cases Americans somehow, someway in anime. I mean, it IS fairly common in many series but it I still find the other parts to be entertaining. Yes, I'm mildly disappointed the plot-line is going all Death Note on us with the chess board reference. Hopefully, the ending will not be too implausible. Side note: I love Five's English.
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2014 20:41
|
|
|
I'm guessing Five is in charge because no one wanted to admit that they couldn't understand a single word that came out of her mouth so they just agreed with everything she said.
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2014 23:46
|
|
|
Indiana_Krom posted:It makes sense when you realize that the FBI/Americans are complete irredeemable cackling villains in this show. As the final episode comes up, expect the Japanese to save the day and show their superiority over the villainous Americans. So I agree, episode killed the show for American viewers.
|
|
#
?
Aug 17, 2014 10:20
|
|
|
Lonely Wizard posted:
You know, I was disappointed by the chess thing and a little confused as to why the FBI wasn't just nabbing the terrorists instead of letting their girl wonder play games with them.. but I was willing to run with the anime. I didn't even notice they'd hosed up the basic rules of chess, now I'm not sure I can continue to suspend my disbelief, this is poo poo.
|
|
#
?
Aug 20, 2014 22:04
|
|
|
Well, we got the team-up we were expecting, but they played it pretty smartly. Shibazaki clearly doesn't like Sphinx OR Five and her FBI Cohorts, and Shibazaki now knows who Nine is by appearance. There's a whole lot of stuff going on in this episode and it's really great overall, I think. There's a pretty nice little dynamic betwee everything.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2014 19:38
|
|
|
Was dumb how Five could just instantly tell Lisa was the culprit just because she was a bit nervous and clumsy in a huge crowd.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2014 19:45
|
|
|
Yeah that's my only real complaint. I mean she did kinda break out into a run immediately afterwards so it's not like she was being sneaky but there really should have been more to it than that.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2014 20:18
|
|
|
This show makes me angry at how stupid it has become. The initial premise was ridiculous, obviously, but they played it straight. The cat and mouse stuff was tense and interesting. Then Five showed up, ugh. Too bad Nine or Shibazaki did not put a bullet in her head when they had the chance.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2014 21:01
|
|
|
"Get Apple Police over here, now!"
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2014 21:16
|
|
|
grrarg posted:This show makes me angry at how stupid it has become. The initial premise was ridiculous, obviously, but they played it straight. The cat and mouse stuff was tense and interesting. Then Five showed up, ugh. Too bad Nine or Shibazaki did not put a bullet in her head when they had the chance. I still love this show so much, but I agree with this too. I do not understand how this woman has so much control and how no one working for her is stopping to think "Wait isn't this poo poo going a little too far?" They're supposedly the FBI but at this point I'm hoping that it's all a sham and that it's actually the secret organization from Iceland pretending to be the FBI.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2014 21:32
|
|
|
the new episode was really exciting and the music was good as always
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2014 23:21
|
|
|
I find the dilemma the last two episodes really dumb because surely everyone would notice that all the previous attacks were accompanied by video announcements with the two and this one wasn't and was anonymous?
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2014 00:21
|
|
|
My complaint is that it didn't end with Shibazaki cuffing Five and saying "You're under arrest for terrorism, illegal use of explosives, and multiple counts of attempted murder." Since, y'know, all the crimes she committed. With all the airport staff as witnesses.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2014 07:07
|
|
|
I think people are giving the FBI too much benefit if the doubt that they have public safety and integrity in mind with these activities. If anything I'm betting they are more concerned with shutting Sphinx up than anything else so they are entirely willing to put people's lives in danger. This is of course assuming that they are actually FBI at all and aren't the organization masquerading as it and pulling one over on the Japanese police.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2014 11:51
|
|
|
Von really cares about blowing up that plant. At this point I'm convinced the punchline was that Von did 9/11.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2014 12:23
|
|
|
Neeksy posted:I think people are giving the FBI too much benefit if the doubt that they have public safety and integrity in mind with these activities. If anything I'm betting they are more concerned with shutting Sphinx up than anything else so they are entirely willing to put people's lives in danger. This is of course assuming that they are actually FBI at all and aren't the organization masquerading as it and pulling one over on the Japanese police. Another reason I think it's not FBI is why the gently caress would the FBI, knowing that This Exact Airport is a target of Sphinx, bring An Actual loving Bomb and not, like, pretend they've got one? Because at the end of the day, Sphinx succeeded in their objective of striking that airport without killing anyone, and it's not like they could've figured out Five was bluffing.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2014 14:26
|
|
|
The writing on this show is pretty terrible. Everything else is still really good though, so I'm probably going to keep watching it.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2014 16:07
|
|
|
While the show has gotten admittedly kinda dumb plot-wise, the show is drat good at pulling its thematic throughlines together. Nine and Twelve reach out to their sole human connections to thwart Five, who is basically just an Evil Mirror-Universe amalgamation of them both. I think the best moment in the whole episode is when Shibazaki shows up in the control tower, prompting a bewildered "Wait, another one?!" look on Five's face. Just Lisa was enough to throw her plans off, but Nine and Twelve also having Shibazaki on hand was totally inconceivable for her, as one who has thrown away her human connections. For what was really just a Power of Shounen Friendship resolution in a Thriller disguise, it was quite effective.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2014 18:20
|
|
|
Monathin posted:
Not really if the aim is simply to reveal corruption, committing terrorism while somehow ensuring no casualties is a whole lot of unnecessary work compared to just airing a half hour documentary detailing the corruption over Sazae-san Anyway the whole show is unfeasible from the get go, the protagonist would be pretty quickly picked up once the cops go through who would happen to have enough high explosive to level a skyscraper and go from there, it's not like you can pick it up at the local 7-11.
|
|
#
?
Aug 23, 2014 09:12
|
|
|
mikemil828 posted:Not really if the aim is simply to reveal corruption, committing terrorism while somehow ensuring no casualties is a whole lot of unnecessary work compared to just airing a half hour documentary detailing the corruption over Sazae-san Didn't they make the bombs out of thermite, which is aluminium and iron oxide. Hardly semtex.
|
|
#
?
Aug 23, 2014 22:17
|
|
|
mikemil828 posted:Anyway the whole show is unfeasible from the get go, the protagonist would be pretty quickly picked up once the cops go through who would happen to have enough high explosive to level a skyscraper and go from there, it's not like you can pick it up at the local 7-11. Yeah, the whole thing is just unbelievable as heck, for many, many reasons so trying to analyze all the ways they could be caught, or how ridiculous/unlikely situation X was is not the point. A show like this depends on how well can they craft the thriller situations, if they are exciting and tense then the show'll be good. Unfortunately it has beem pretty meh in that respect. (And Lisa annoys me). Also, if they managed to steal plutonium of all things they could also have a van full of semtex and a predator drone for all I care.
|
|
#
?
Aug 23, 2014 23:51
|
|
|
Szmitten posted:I find the dilemma the last two episodes really dumb because surely everyone would notice that all the previous attacks were accompanied by video announcements with the two and this one wasn't and was anonymous? And I get that people would find it hard to believe a terrorist group saying "that bombing wasn't us, honest" but couldn't Nine and Twelve put out a video saying "there is a copycat bomber, if there is not a video from us beforehand then it's not us"?
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2014 11:37
|
|
|
For the first 3 episodes I was hopeful that the show wouldn't be completely style-over-substance. I gave up on that as soon as Five appeared. I'm still enjoying it and want to know what happens, but my expectations have changed drastically.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2014 11:55
|
|
|
I'm getting the sense that Five is going to be in this show for the long run and I'm not thrilled about that. Hoping that her involvement becomes more interesting/believable/anything positive.
|
|
#
?
Aug 26, 2014 00:34
|
|
|
a kitten posted:There's a part of the OP song that sounds exactly like a piece of another show's music and it's driving me crazy that I can't remember what it is. Anyone have an idea? I suspect it's another Kanno composition. Speaking about music, what also drives me crazy is when I hear a great piece of music, only to find out that it isn't included in the OST for whatever reason. Specifically the piano/violin track that plays when they walk into the airport.
|
|
#
?
Aug 28, 2014 11:48
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/zankyono_terror/status/499967618883657729 So episode 8 has been delayed until September 4th. Which means episode 9 will be airing on.... September 11th... 
|
|
#
?
Aug 28, 2014 12:54
|
|
|
Commandante posted:Speaking about music, what also drives me crazy is when I hear a great piece of music, only to find out that it isn't included in the OST for whatever reason. Only gotta wait till 10/22 for the second OST.
|
|
#
?
Aug 28, 2014 18:10
|
|
|
Speaking of(a longass time ago), the one song from the OST I remember immediately hating comes on, and it weirdly sort of works?? drat, this sound direction 
|
|
#
?
Sep 5, 2014 05:41
|
|
|
That was the most Yoko Kannoy episode.
|
|
|
#
?
Sep 5, 2014 05:52
|
|
|
Oh just take the loving donut shibazaki, be a sport. e: Awwwwww
Pootybutt fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Sep 5, 2014 |
|
#
?
Sep 5, 2014 06:02
|
|
|
I think everyone predicted that eventually Shibazaki would be taken off the case, but it sucks that it happened because of Five! The parts without Five were enjoyable but man, she really drags everything down when she's involved.
|
|
#
?
Sep 7, 2014 16:57
|
|
|
Srice posted:The parts without Five were enjoyable but man, she really drags everything down when she's involved. And now we get to look forward to her emotionally torturing Lisa for the next few episodes. Bonus points for lesbian undertones. Aren't you excited? Still waiting for them to "pull the trigger on this world".
|
|
#
?
Sep 7, 2014 19:12
|
|
|
Too much rapey gay, not enough terrorist brotherhood gay.
|
|
#
?
Sep 7, 2014 22:50
|
|
|
japan has nuns?
|
|
#
?
Sep 8, 2014 05:01
|
|
|
New episode is up and I think it was really great. I know some goons have been saying the ending would be predictable, but I think they've done a great job of misdirection by making the "team-up" scene happen earlier then expected and not likely to happen again. The U.S I also think, is not quite clear cut as "the bad guys" as people think the show was making them out to be as well.
|
|
#
?
Sep 12, 2014 02:17
|
|
|
I like how this episode addressed how Five is so much less natural and more 'anime' a character than the rest of the cast. The Athena Project was designed to dehumanise its subjects, turning them into tools for the government (the names are a bit of a clue), and whilst Nine and Twelve managed to retain some of their humanity by escaping, Five ended up as the sole completed model. I wouldn't be surprised if that weird pseudo-schoolgirl outfit was designed by a corporation to make her more marketable or something.
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2014 22:25
|
|
|
So did everyone forget about this show once Five showed up? I admit it's not as great as I was expecting from Watanabe but it seems like a lot of anime fans have just written it off now. I still think it's one of the best shows this season (my personal top 3) especially with this latest episode.
|
|
#
?
Sep 14, 2014 03:06
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 25, 2024 12:58 |
|
|
Admoon posted:So did everyone forget about this show once Five showed up? I admit it's not as great as I was expecting from Watanabe but it seems like a lot of anime fans have just written it off now. I still think it's one of the best shows this season (my personal top 3) especially with this latest episode. I think after Five took over a lot of people decided to take a break and hear how it ends. Though even without Five, I can't blame them. It really feels like the sort of show where a poor ending could retroactively ruin a lot.
|
|
#
?
Sep 14, 2014 03:23
|
|