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BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

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It occurs to me that war perpetuates because human beings are transfixed by their own memory of the past and prediction of the future, capabilities unique to them and fundamental to the great intelligence that they hold with such pride. This is how war can continue for decades and generations, because memory inspires vengeance and vengeance inspires retribution, but there is no memory of conflict for the wolf or the bear.

Is the natural world a more peaceful one or does nature respond to the absence of prediction by engaging in war perpetual, an ongoing and endless conflict which mankind can and has elevated itself from?

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Smoking Crow
Feb 13, 2012



i hope a dolphin rapes u

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007


man is a part of nature. what the one is the other must be.

im pooping!
Nov 17, 2006


i think if aliens came and started blasting our poo poo we'd stop killing each other long enough to fight the aliens and the aliens would eventually win but we'd gently caress them up real bad

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



war is the pinnicle of human endevor. humans, the lords of the earth. War is the purest expression of nature itself, war is god

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTseSi0Qgow

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011
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PS: Time for a 39th Fojar, we can do better than this

nature is really really fuckin violent hope that helps op

Effectronica
May 31, 2011


Leave it to Michel to take care of the job! Uuurh, I'm the best around!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLhld_PI2zg

Yaos
Feb 22, 2003

She is a cat of significant gravy.

War is necessary for people to realize not to use their world ending weapons when somebody invents them.

ilikedirt
Oct 15, 2004

king of posting


ya nature is v peaceful

*watches wolf eat baby caribou alive as it screams in agony*

cis white male
Jul 5, 2014

i'm a fag i'm a lesbian


wolfs only eat as much as they need

the burden of humans is the knowledge of their own mortality and it makes them act out in hosed up ways

Corey Plumper
Nov 22, 2008



Nature strives for balance OP

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Corey Plumper posted:

Nature strives for balance OP

this is a loving lie! nature knows no reason its all a gently caress death orgy

Corey Plumper
Nov 22, 2008



SniperWoreConverse posted:

this is a loving lie! nature knows no reason its all a gently caress death orgy

It finds balance through death

cis white male
Jul 5, 2014

i'm a fag i'm a lesbian


Corey Plumper posted:

Nature strives for balance OP

yep which is why there's going to be a pretty horrific die-off of humans just like any other species that gets too big for it's britches population-wise

HoboZero
Apr 19, 2008

MORON


I, too, am smoking a bowl and marathoning GoT.

naem
May 29, 2011



Kitten thinks of nothing but murder all day

poopzilla
Nov 23, 2004

Relaxing after a hard scrap



OBEY THE ORDERS OF NATURE

mookface
Jun 7, 2009

Diane! I'm holding in my hand a box of small chocolate bunnies.


Many animals eat their young and it ain't no thang

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011
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Ocean Book
Sep 27, 2010

- hi

animcals (excepting chimps and such) dont concieve of the world in terms of spatially arraigned objects and symbols, but rather respond to sense inputs without cognitive filtering.

mookface
Jun 7, 2009

Diane! I'm holding in my hand a box of small chocolate bunnies.


Ocean Book posted:

animcals (excepting chimps and such) dont concieve of the world in terms of spatially arraigned objects and symbols, but rather respond to sense inputs without cognitive filtering.

So their murder dances are less elaborate and sophisticated

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007


i know nature is nothing but predation and random destruction, but irl im quite upbeat about stuff

Stoic Commie
Aug 29, 2005

G's up
Hoes down


anmals are my friends

sluggo is mad
Jan 14, 2012



"Infanticide is a common practice in most mammals. Male lions use infanticide to get rid of offspring in a newly acquired pride that are not genetically related to the male coalition."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZRw0IYdf3g

SirEvelynTremble
Dec 25, 2013

MY GRENADE ONLY COST 5 BUCKS

Whilst recently in Japan ...


Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010



no op

Azerban
Oct 28, 2003

...it's only gonna make you love me more...


im pooping! posted:

i think if aliens came and started blasting our poo poo we'd stop killing each other long enough to fight the aliens and the aliens would eventually win but we'd gently caress them up real bad

on the other hand you're an idiot if you think this, it'd be like me schooling my bitch rear end high school friends at LAN parties in rise of nations

oh wow, knights with lances? get your poo poo strafed by a jet wait why are you quitting no you can come back

Tom Gorman
Apr 30, 2004


i dont even know what to think about plants anymore. personally i figure they want to gently caress us up more than anything. i'm a scientist.

Azerban
Oct 28, 2003

...it's only gonna make you love me more...


also if you've ever played a video game its shameful as hell you don't need to say it

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011
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Ocean Book posted:

animcals (excepting chimps and such) dont concieve of the world in terms of spatially arraigned objects and symbols, but rather respond to sense inputs without cognitive filtering.

most animals are basically automatons that obey their evolutionary code and thats it

there are some exceptions like dolphins and elephants but they are only exceptional if you grade them on a curve

blondcockerel
Feb 28, 2014



OP the only difference between man and pleasure are its goals. Man seeks pleasure and nature seeks only survival.

When we've extinguished our raison d'etre and scoured the earth, nature will continue on and survive around the scars we've left behind.

Both are violent as poo poo, though, 2/5 for naturalistic fallacy.

Tsinava
Nov 15, 2009


nature is lifeforms brutally devouring other lifeforms constantly. it isn't peaceful at all. it may be peaceful to you but in truth it is a quite violent thing.

mookface
Jun 7, 2009

Diane! I'm holding in my hand a box of small chocolate bunnies.


Tsinava posted:

nature is lifeforms brutally devouring other lifeforms constantly. it isn't peaceful at all. it may be peaceful to you but in truth it is a quite violent thing.

Its cool to murder and consume creatures weaker than you

Tsinava
Nov 15, 2009


the cool thing about being human is that we can examine how nature works as a whole and come to the conclusion that a system that mimics evolution or "the strongest survive" is ineffecient and the fact that it generated sentient beings such as us that became so relatively powerful is uncanny. despite how nature actually works, we have projected our own psychotic ideas onto the universe. some of them work pretty well.

Tsinava
Nov 15, 2009


to be fair there are some better examples in nature that come closer to collectivism/socialism when you examine trees and plants.

plants and trees in cultivated or old forests communicate with each other through complex systems of fungus called mycorrhiza. trees will even aid plants that are beneficial to them but are of another species through the mycorrhiza in the soil. they will do the same thing, but to a greater effect to their own saplings which don't get enough sunlight.




nature isn't a balance. it's a dynamic equilibrium. a system of constantly fluctuating, but ultimately cyclical and reversible patterns.

The Tao Jones
Oct 9, 2007

What's a hole doing in my TARDIS?

I have it on good authority that chaos reigns.

carrion kit
Mar 19, 2005

'lapse!


surprisingly, this and the dynamics of homosexual sex was already figured out by a fictional Gorilla named Ishmael. Basically there are 'Givers' and there are 'Takers', I highly recommend you read this book OP. it will change the way you look not only about the 'nature' of man but also the nature of your own hole and dick

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

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carrion kit posted:

surprisingly, this and the dynamics of homosexual sex was already figured out by a fictional Gorilla named Ishmael. Basically there are 'Givers' and there are 'Takers', I highly recommend you read this book OP. it will change the way you look not only about the 'nature' of man but also the nature of your own hole and dick

I don't have a dick or hole.

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cis white male
Jul 5, 2014

i'm a fag i'm a lesbian


Fojar38 posted:

most animals are basically automatons that obey their evolutionary code and thats it

there are some exceptions like dolphins and elephants but they are only exceptional if you grade them on a curve

humans are the same

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