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CobiWann posted:With regard to the Network, there's a Logan's Run "RENEW" joke somewhere, but damned if I can find it. Vince McMahon has a pitch-black crystal in the palm of his hand and everybody is constantly complimenting him on how blue it is.
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Jul 15, 2014 11:23
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They shouldn't make Lesnar invincible. A hot enough face (notably D-Bry) could pull the strap without hurting Lesnar, who's hard to hurt in general due to how purely intimidating the guy is and the quality of his non-chairfest matches.
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Carver Crisis posted:Cena is honestly an extreme carny freak disguising himself as a stand-up guy. His interview on Howard Stern where he admits to loving a 280 lb woman because he was dared to is eye opening to me. I'm not sure he actually has a soul. Which is a perfect fit for this company, because Vince McMahon doesn't have one either. He can wrestle though. Don't say he can't wrestle. John Cena can wrestle, but he what he can't do is empathize or feel emotion. John Cena is ether a robot or a psychopath. I'm leaning towards robot due to quick repair time and difficulty changing programing.
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Jul 15, 2014 11:29
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Gonzo McFee posted:John Cena is ether a robot or a psychopath. He is the prototype, Roman Reigns is the first mass-produced model.
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Basic Chunnel posted:They shouldn't make Lesnar invincible. A hot enough face (notably D-Bry) could pull the strap without hurting Lesnar, who's hard to hurt in general due to how purely intimidating the guy is and the quality of his non-chairfest matches. If Daniel Bryan beats Lesnar for the title at any point in the next year that will be far far dumber than the way they booked Bryan for the last year. 
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I'm holding out hope for Damien Sandow dressed as Goldberg (Goldow, or possibly Sandberg) to be the one to beat Lesnar.
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Jul 15, 2014 12:04
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I much prefer the idea of Lesnar showing up once in a blue moon and never being beaten. He's the guy everyone knows is legitimately the toughest person on the roster, he's been a monster in WWE since his first day and he's the guy who beat The Undertaker at WrestleMania, cleanly and definitively. It is absurd to have him lose ever again, other than perhaps to a multi-person beatdown with chairs and tables. And I like the idea of there continuing to be some sort of above-the-belt, omnipresent force now that The Undertaker is gone. Before, no matter who had the belt, no matter how good they were, they were always #2 behind The Undertaker at WrestleMania. Now they're #2 behind Brock Lesnar, whenever he shows up. That constant threat, the knowledge that there is always that bigger fish, is much more effective than the <4 weeks of moderate boasting that would result from someone like Daniel Bryan or John Cena pinning him.
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Jul 15, 2014 12:06
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Lesnar should absolutely not lose,or even look the least bit vulnerable until next Wrestlemania at the very least.
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fariz posted:He cashes it in against Reigns, who beat Lesnar at Mania for the title. Ambrose stops it. Asks if he had forgotten. Shield Triple Threat Um, this would own actually. Good post.
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Jul 15, 2014 13:13
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pressedbunny posted:I much prefer the idea of Lesnar showing up once in a blue moon and never being beaten. He's the guy everyone knows is legitimately the toughest person on the roster, he's been a monster in WWE since his first day and he's the guy who beat The Undertaker at WrestleMania, cleanly and definitively. It is absurd to have him lose ever again, other than perhaps to a multi-person beatdown with chairs and tables. So this is totally resulting in Cena beating him again. Cole: John Cena really is the best sports entertainer ever! Goodnight everyone!
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Jul 15, 2014 13:39
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I actually turned off Raw last night after the Wyatt/Jericho segment (which was actually pretty good), and I don't normally do that. I thought the end would be totally predictable with Ambrose running off Rollins, and the rest of the 4 squaring off and brawling to end the show. But it sounds like it was a giant confusing clusterfuck with legit injuries. Also, I see it's back to business as usual with jobber Cesaro. I imagine he'll take yet another loss on Smackdown, win the IC title and proceed to never win another match for the next 6 months. Cromulent fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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Jul 15, 2014 13:45
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Coming out of Wrestlemania, Cesaro was hot and on the cusp of a face turn where everyone would cheer him for big swinging people. Now, months later, he's cold as ice and was dumped by his manager off camera and his former partner, loving JACK SWAGGER, is getting huge pops and turning face. I never would have called that one. I also really like The Miz Titantron thing because not only does it get him booed for turning off the giant glowing rectangle, but it seemed to actually force people to pay attention to the match in the ring if they wanted to know what was going on. There was actual crowd heat in a Miz/Sheamus match and it was fun! Favorite moment of the night was Lawler's pleading "Just sign up for the network!"
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Jul 15, 2014 13:46
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Has it been posted yet that Seth's injury was actually a work? How weird is that.
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Daniel Bryan posted:Has it been posted yet that Seth's injury was actually a work? How weird is that. First thing I thought of last night was if Rollins is "injured" he can't cash in. Thus necessitating the presence of BRRROCKK LESSNAARR and requiring the authority to turn to Heyman to get the title off Cena. Assuming Rollins isn't actually injured. It could also keep building up Ambrose vs Rollins for Summerslam and they could try and pull in more network subscribers.
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Tato posted:Coming out of Wrestlemania, Cesaro was hot and on the cusp of a face turn where everyone would cheer him for big swinging people. Now, months later, he's cold as ice and was dumped by his manager off camera and his former partner, loving JACK SWAGGER, is getting huge pops and turning face. I never would have called that one. I actually have enjoyed Miz's return, for what it's worth. He's still pretty shoddy in the ring, but he's gotten better, and he is so much more natural as a heel. Daniel Bryan posted:Has it been posted yet that Seth's injury was actually a work? How weird is that. Are there actual reports of this?
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Professor Funk posted:I actually have enjoyed Miz's return, for what it's worth. He's still pretty shoddy in the ring, but he's gotten better, and he is so much more natural as a heel. Meltzer.
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Daniel Bryan posted:Meltzer. Well that's great news then! 
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Tato posted:I also really like The Miz Titantron thing because not only does it get him booed for turning off the giant glowing rectangle, but it seemed to actually force people to pay attention to the match in the ring if they wanted to know what was going on. There was actual crowd heat in a Miz/Sheamus match and it was fun! It was almost hard to boo Miz for that one. The guy is a really natural, really fun heel, and I just love heel tactics like that. I do feel bad for anyone with a poor view of the ring, though. I hope they liked staring at Miz's face the whole time. How did the Eva Marie vs. AJ Lee match come across on television? From where I was sitting, it seemed pretty heatless.
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sunsweet posted:How did the Eva Marie vs. AJ Lee match come across on television? From where I was sitting, it seemed pretty heatless. It came across, in a word, bad.
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sunsweet posted:It was almost hard to boo Miz for that one. The guy is a really natural, really fun heel, and I just love heel tactics like that. I do feel bad for anyone with a poor view of the ring, though. I hope they liked staring at Miz's face the whole time. Crowd was dead, match was bad. Nikki actually did get some face pops though
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sunsweet posted:How did the Eva Marie vs. AJ Lee match come across on television? From where I was sitting, it seemed pretty heatless. Yeah I was kind of sad that AJ was clearly working hard but the crowd wasn't buying it. What did the 'frenemy' angle at the announce table look like from your POV without being able to hear much of it, presumably? Also why didn't you help Dean Ambrose
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I can only assume that they're jobbing Cesaro out thinking "oh well he's going to win the IC title so that will make him legitimate again!" You'd think eventually they would realize that their midcard titles don't give anyone any kind of rub, but here we are with the same booking we've had for ages.
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oatgan posted:Crowd was dead, match was bad. Nikki actually did get some face pops though I know that once I saw Paige go sit next to JBL that I couldn't begin to care about what happened next. There were a few "let's go Nikki" chants throughout her match, but they were relatively quiet. Also, I felt like the only person trying to boo Cameron and Alicia Fox, hahah. flashy_mcflash posted:Yeah I was kind of sad that AJ was clearly working hard but the crowd wasn't buying it. What did the 'frenemy' angle at the announce table look like from your POV without being able to hear much of it, presumably? AJ was absolutely trying and I felt bad for not screaming for her, but at the same time it was with Eva Marie and nobody cared. AJ at least got a pop for her entrance. The announce table bit at the end looked like nothing because we couldn't hear a drat word of it. We only got audio for backstage segments and ads. We wanted to help Dean.  When the beatdown started, Cena and Reigns actually ran to the back, so I was expecting them to show up and help Ambrose. Typical Cena, never helping his friends.
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Jul 15, 2014 14:14
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I hope the two belt problem was solved last night with Flair stealing the big gold belt.
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triplexpac posted:I can only assume that they're jobbing Cesaro out thinking "oh well he's going to win the IC title so that will make him legitimate again!" Cesaro, King of Swing, Winner of Battle Royals Edit: Why wasn't Heyman with Cesaro last night?
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If Rollins' injury really is a work, can we just declare him the greatest seller of all time now? Also I don't get the AJ/Paige angle, if they're going for insincere friends who secretly hate each other but are hiding it behind over the top civility, then why have paige declare that they're frenemies repeatedly? Isn't that kinda defeating the point of pretending to be friends if you just straight up admit that's not the case? Blasmeister fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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Blasmeister posted:If Rollins' injury really is a work, can we just declare him the greatest seller of all time now? Nope, still Foley. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUw_ZIDOK30
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Blasmeister posted:If Rollins' injury really is a work, can we just declare him the greatest seller of all time now? Because Paige stinks at anything that requires talking.
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Professor Funk posted:I actually have enjoyed Miz's return, for what it's worth. He's still pretty shoddy in the ring, but he's gotten better, and he is so much more natural as a heel. That DDT he hit looked legit great, his promo work has been excellent, and he is in better shape than his WWE championship run. The guy is really trying.
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Sigma posted:That DDT he hit looked legit great, his promo work has been excellent, and he is in better shape than his WWE championship run. The Miz would be a good guy to throw the IC title on for a bit, I think. He's definitely one of the several guys on the roster who could actually benefit from holding a midcard title. Throwing midcard titles on guys like Sheamus or Cesaro or whatever is pretty pointless. And I've always liked that DDT. Professor Funk fucked around with this message at 14:29 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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Daniel Bryan posted:Meltzer. I'd be thrilled if he's not really injured but I don't buy that yet. This was "Kevin Nash quad tear on Raw" without the scream. Also, it accomplishes nothing.
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Auron posted:Because Paige stinks at anything that requires talking. No she stinks at wwe's overly scripted non sense. In NXT she did some really decent to good segments where she talked. I think this story line might just be really stupid.
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The_Rob posted:No she stinks at wwe's overly scripted non sense. In NXT she did some really decent to good segments where she talked. I think this story line might just be really stupid. I liked her sit-down interview vignettes on NXT but I found a lot of her backstage stuff to be pretty lousy.
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Professor Funk posted:Cesaro, King of Swing, Winner of Battle Royals There was literally a single line of commentary that was basically "Heyman has bigger fish to fry than some jobber with an accent. They're done." That's right, instead of making a feud of it, they're just done and Cesaro is going to be strapped with the jobber title on Sunday probably.
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The Sting promo and reaction was great. While last night may not have been meant to be a tease for him coming back necessarily, I'm hoping with that reaction both sides realize it should happen for at least one retirement match. Seeing how well done the promo package was, I can only imagine how insane his Wrestlemania entrance would be. The pyro and lighting effects that would go into a mania match with he and Taker would probably cause the power to go out in Santa Clara.
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triplexpac posted:I can only assume that they're jobbing Cesaro out thinking "oh well he's going to win the IC title so that will make him legitimate again!" easy solution is to merge the IC and the US, bring back the US title gives a World Title shot rule. Now you have a reason for people to want the title.
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fart blood posted:I'd be thrilled if he's not really injured but I don't buy that yet. This was "Kevin Nash quad tear on Raw" without the scream. Also, it accomplishes nothing. It accomplished Rollins getting out of the ring without Ambrose having to come out and stealing all the pop.
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