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Jul 31, 2014 14:58
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Boston is also getting a competitive balance pick. Oakland is getting cash.
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Jul 31, 2014 15:00
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I posted this in the other thread too, but I like the deal. Cespedes has crazy talent and is really fun to watch, but he wasn't hitting in Oakland. He can't lay off bad pitches. Maybe the Monster will help him, but he's still never learned how to take a walk. Lester gives them another legit top of the rotation guy (maybe their only one since Kazmir could turn back into a pumpkin any day and Gray has never pitched this many innings), and Gomes fits in well with their team philosophy. I would guess he doesn't see more than a tiny handful of at bats against righties the rest of the year, and he can still crush lefties.
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Jul 31, 2014 15:04
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This is a pretty cool deal. It obviously helps both teams. Cespedes will hit a bunch of bombs in Fenway, and a Cespedes/Bradley/Betts OF could be pretty dangerous if they all live up to their potential. The As are now clearly WS favorites. Deadline rules, y'all.
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Jul 31, 2014 15:07
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Billy never fucks around trying to get 10 cents on the dollar in his trades. If there's something he wants he just goes for it.
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Jul 31, 2014 15:08
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I'm surprised he didn't try to get a low minors player back in the deal. There's got to be somebody in Boston's system the A's had their eyes on when he was drafted. E: BBREF has Cespedes at 3 WAR already this season and 114 OPS+ in spite of the .303 OBP. Are we going through that bad of a power shortage in baseball right now?
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Jul 31, 2014 15:10
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tadashi posted:I'm surprised he didn't try to get a low minors player back in the deal. There's got to be somebody in Boston's system the A's had their eyes on when he was drafted. He pretty clearly does not give a gently caress about prospects this year
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Jul 31, 2014 15:12
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tadashi posted:I'm surprised he didn't try to get a low minors player back in the deal. There's got to be somebody in Boston's system the A's had their eyes on when he was drafted. Yes But also they got Lester not Lackey
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Jul 31, 2014 15:13
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Jesus Christ, Gomes has a sub-.500 OPS against righties this year and an .831 OPS against lefties. Why does anyone deploy this man against righties. Also, Cespedes rules and I love him. I hope the As win the World Series because that's a huge price to pay for such a cool dude.
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Jul 31, 2014 15:14
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tadashi posted:E: BBREF has Cespedes at 3 WAR already this season and 114 OPS+ in spite of the .303 OBP. Are we going through that bad of a power shortage in baseball right now? Cespedes is going to love hitting in Fenway; I could easily see him putting up a 130 OPS+ there, despite his awful plate discipline. That said, a lot of his value is clearly rooted in his potential (core strength! athleticism! etc.). They're not necessarily paying for the player Cespedes is now.
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Jul 31, 2014 15:15
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tadashi posted:I'm surprised he didn't try to get a low minors player back in the deal. There's got to be somebody in Boston's system the A's had their eyes on when he was drafted. A decent chunk of the WAR is defensive I think. Groucho Marxist posted:He pretty clearly does not give a gently caress about prospects this year Yuuup. Proving that his poo poo can work in the playoffs and that he can win it all in Oakland is pretty much the only thing he hasn't done. He's going all in this year (correctly I think, since I can't imagine them having a chance like this again anytime soon)
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Jul 31, 2014 15:21
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Cespedes is clearly a hope he hits some babby flyball doubles off the wall and flip him next year/in the offseason move for the Red Sox.
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Jul 31, 2014 15:22
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Professor Funk posted:Cespedes is going to love hitting in Fenway; I could easily see him putting up a 130 OPS+ there, despite his awful plate discipline. That said, a lot of his value is clearly rooted in his potential (core strength! athleticism! etc.). They're not necessarily paying for the player Cespedes is now.
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Jul 31, 2014 15:28
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That Cespedes contract is still a good deal. It's under-market for an average player under 30 in free agency.
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Jul 31, 2014 15:29
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Let's go A's
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Jul 31, 2014 15:36
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I dare someone to make a crazier trade than what the A's have done so far. It just seems like it's all downhill from here (a thing we said a few weeks ago, I guess).
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Jul 31, 2014 15:36
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tadashi posted:I dare someone to make a crazier trade than what the A's have done so far. It just seems like it's all downhill from here (a thing we said a few weeks ago, I guess). How are any of these trades crazy? Both have seemed fair for everyone.
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Jul 31, 2014 15:39
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Groucho Marxist posted:How are any of these trades crazy? Both have seemed fair for everyone. Not bad just different from the standard prospects for major league player or small adjustment trades.
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Jul 31, 2014 15:52
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Rosenthal reporting Milone to the Twins
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Jul 31, 2014 15:55
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I could see (and hope) they get Willingham and maybe something else in return. That Cespedes hole immediately plugged.
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Jul 31, 2014 15:57
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Dunno if Boston can handle all that Core Strength I will be shocked if Cespedes stays with the Sox longer than next year's trade deadline.
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Jul 31, 2014 15:59
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Poonerman posted:Rosenthal reporting Milone to the Twins Its gonna ve for willingham isnt it
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Jul 31, 2014 16:02
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MassaShowtime posted:Its gonna ve for willingham isnt it Sam Fuld 
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Jul 31, 2014 16:03
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Poonerman posted:Sam Fuld  I just heard this on the radio. We got Fuld off of waivers from Oakland like three months ago.
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Jul 31, 2014 16:05
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Jul 31, 2014 16:07
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I was wondering why the Twins didn't try to get Milone after Oakland got
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Jul 31, 2014 16:21
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IcePhoenix posted:
Yeah, I think they wanted him back. Milone wanted out so it seems like a good fit. The A's have Gentry and Blanks coming back soon, too. It's going to be a crowded outfield again. The A's have Griffin coming back next season, assuming he doesn't hit any major setbacks, so they still have a good amount of pitching depth.
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Jul 31, 2014 16:25
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What the gently caress? That's a terrible deal for Oakland. Sam Fuld, while fun and intelligent, is a bad baseball player. Tommy Milone is thoroughly mediocre, but he is a cost-controlled thoroughly mediocre player.
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Jul 31, 2014 16:28
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FairGame posted:What the gently caress? That's a terrible deal for Oakland. Milone was pretty much demanding a trade from what has been reported lately. This seems like a personnel move more than a baseball move.
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Jul 31, 2014 16:29
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That's seriously a video game trade.
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Jul 31, 2014 16:31
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Milone is a defense/park-dependent pitcher whose career ERA is like 1.7 points higher away from Oakland. He's like all the other Twins pitchers.
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Jul 31, 2014 16:34
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Milone is not good, this is a video game trade if you are bad at video games. He just got assigned to Rochester.
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Jul 31, 2014 16:42
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leokitty posted:Milone is not good, this is a video game trade if you are bad at video games. He just got assigned to Rochester. To be fair that's because he pitched two days ago and will almost certainly get called up for his next start. Not that Milone isn't a very bad pitcher outside of Oakland.
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Jul 31, 2014 16:47
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lil kenny says price and zobrist to tigers edit or not real lil kenny says its fake
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Jul 31, 2014 16:51
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Scob posted:lil kenny says price and zobrist to tigers that was a fake twitter account
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Jul 31, 2014 16:52
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Scob posted:lil kenny says price and zobrist to tigers Looks like a fake Rosenthal twitter account. But at least it fooled MLB Network.
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Jul 31, 2014 16:52
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Tavarin posted:Looks like a fake Rosenthal twitter account. yeah thats where i seen it, and loving lil kenny is sitting right there lol
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Jul 31, 2014 16:53
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Trust no one Except Assman22
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Jul 31, 2014 16:55
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Scob posted:yeah thats where i seen it, and loving lil kenny is sitting right there lol 
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apparently Rosenthal never bothered to make twitter give him @KenRosenthal and uses @Ken_Rosenthal which is kind of funny
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