is the guy who made Cards Against Humanity a rapist y/n

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ilikedirt: Oct 15, 2004; king of posting

Uncle Wemus posted:

Well, the issue with that line of thought is that if we assume at first that he (or anyone accused of rape) is innocent, it has to mean that we assume that she is a liar.

And statistically speaking, a rape that is brought up is way way way way WAY more likely to have occurred than to have been made up in the mind of the accuser.*

Knowingly accusing somebody of rape when they did not commit it is as rare as falsely accusing of murder or falsely accusing of theft. It is crazy how when one guy accuses another guy if stealing, literally no one is going to automatically assume that he's a lying whore and anyways he wears make up and was drunk when it happened soooo let's just drop the case.

And yet, that's exactly what a woman goes through. And god help her if that man is better known or is liked than she is.

* This is used because this is a hypothetical here.

same

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David Copperfield: Mar 14, 2004; im david copperfield

Uncle Wemus posted:

Well, the issue with that line of thought is that if we assume at first that he (or anyone accused of rape) is innocent, it has to mean that we assume that she is a liar.

And statistically speaking, a rape that is brought up is way way way way WAY more likely to have occurred than to have been made up in the mind of the accuser.*

Knowingly accusing somebody of rape when they did not commit it is as rare as falsely accusing of murder or falsely accusing of theft. It is crazy how when one guy accuses another guy if stealing, literally no one is going to automatically assume that he's a lying whore and anyways he wears make up and was drunk when it happened soooo let's just drop the case.

And yet, that's exactly what a woman goes through. And god help her if that man is better known or is liked than she is.

* This is used because this is a hypothetical here.

I'm making fun of the response to his response, not what an actual rape victim should say regarding her rapist years and years later. I have probably a billionth of the emotional maturity to know even what to do in that case. (Probably the only way to 'prove' a rape accusation is false is if the victim has history of false accusations, like what I thought happened with that Connor Oberst guy. Still worth a look into anyway.)

# ? Jul 16, 2014 18:42

Alberto Basalm: Nov 14, 2005

Uncle Wemus posted:

Well, the issue with that line of thought is that if we assume at first that he (or anyone accused of rape) is innocent, it has to mean that we assume that she is a liar.

And statistically speaking, a rape that is brought up is way way way way WAY more likely to have occurred than to have been made up in the mind of the accuser.*

Knowingly accusing somebody of rape when they did not commit it is as rare as falsely accusing of murder or falsely accusing of theft. It is crazy how when one guy accuses another guy if stealing, literally no one is going to automatically assume that he's a lying whore and anyways he wears make up and was drunk when it happened soooo let's just drop the case.

And yet, that's exactly what a woman goes through. And god help her if that man is better known or is liked than she is.

* This is used because this is a hypothetical here.

this line of thinking contradicts the entire western idea of justice

# ? Jul 16, 2014 18:43

Effectronica: May 31, 2011; Fallen Rib

Fandyien posted:

i loving hate cards against humanity. i've never played it and i fuckin hate it

i've played it, and i hate it a whole lot, even more than loving munchkin

# ? Jul 16, 2014 18:44

N. Senada: May 17, 2011; My kidneys are busted

I really hope Anita Sarkeesian never gets sexually assaulted, that would be a horrible thing.

But if it did happen, I think /v/ might explode.

What I'm saying is that games and rape culture go hand-in-hand so this is not a surprise regarding whoever made XXX apples-to-apples

# ? Jul 16, 2014 18:44

StashAugustine: Mar 24, 2013; Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

cah is an amazing game because it lets you simultaneously spot people with terrible taste in games and terrible senses of humor

# ? Jul 16, 2014 18:45

N. Senada: May 17, 2011; My kidneys are busted

Alberto Basalm posted:

this line of thinking contradicts the entire western idea of justice

NOT WESTERN JUSTICE!

# ? Jul 16, 2014 18:45

David Copperfield: Mar 14, 2004; im david copperfield

you can tell how terrible a person is by how creepy their custom cards are

# ? Jul 16, 2014 18:45

solovyov: Feb 23, 2006; LAWYER FIGHT

David Copperfield posted:

Conclusion: no matter how heartfelt or sincere your denial of a rape accusation without proof is, it is obviously a trick taught by the Rapist Society.

It actually highlights a serious problem that occurs when people refuse to believe that miscommunication happens. No Such Thing as an Accidental Rapist is an easier line to hold than Sometimes People Don't Communicate Well, but I don't think it's universally true.

Uncle Wemus posted:

Well, the issue with that line of thought is that if we assume at first that he (or anyone accused of rape) is innocent, it has to mean that we assume that she is a liar.

No, the issue is that it is possible for a victim to feel violated without the perpetrator understanding in the moment that is what is happening. I find it remarkably easy to believe that this woman felt sexually assaulted and that this man was utterly clueless about it and therefore feels innocent. His cluelessness doesn't make her a liar. Particularly since these two did not have intercourse. I don't think she's shared any details but it could be something as simple as him sticking his hands down her pants, her saying stop, and him stopping. It's possible for her to feel violated by that without him feeling like he'd done something wrong. A different woman dealing with the same circumstances might not feel violated at all because he stopped when she asked him to. People have different boundaries.

# ? Jul 16, 2014 18:49

Frog Act: Feb 10, 2012

the kind of dumb immature faglord that would play cards against humanity has no place in civilized society. its not funny, you're not funny, nothing is funny *blows up planet*

# ? Jul 16, 2014 18:50

Uncle Wemus: Mar 4, 2004

Alberto Basalm posted:

this line of thinking contradicts the entire western idea of justice

You mean the RAPE CULTURE made by white male patriarchs????

# ? Jul 16, 2014 18:50

N. Senada: May 17, 2011; My kidneys are busted

David Copperfield posted:

you can tell how terrible a person is by how creepy their custom cards are

I got the christmas pack for a friend for christmas. Because I ordered it, my name was printed on a card my friend owns. Apparently it's big laugh times when they put cum guzzler down with my name or whatever the gently caress.

solovyov posted:

It actually highlights a serious problem that occurs when people refuse to believe that miscommunication happens. No Such Thing as an Accidental Rapist is an easier line to hold than Sometimes People Don't Communicate Well, but I don't think it's universally true.

No, the issue is that it is possible for a victim to feel violated without the perpetrator understanding in the moment that is what is happening. I find it remarkably easy to believe that this woman felt sexually assaulted and that this man was utterly clueless about it and therefore feels innocent. His cluelessness doesn't make her a liar. Particularly since these two did not have intercourse. I don't think she's shared any details but it could be something as simple as him sticking his hands down her pants, her saying stop, and him stopping. It's possible for her to feel violated by that without him feeling like he'd done something wrong. A different woman dealing with the same circumstances might not feel violated at all because he stopped when she asked him to. People have different boundaries.

This is a good argument for not executing autists who don't know they've done something bad.

# ? Jul 16, 2014 18:51

Frog Act: Feb 10, 2012

im the reddit post facetiously using terms like rape culture and privilege because i'm so dumb i eat poo poo and live in a gutter.

# ? Jul 16, 2014 18:51

N. Senada: May 17, 2011; My kidneys are busted

Is Russia part of the Western Justice world, or is it the Orient? tia

# ? Jul 16, 2014 18:53

fuck the ROW: Aug 29, 2008; by zen death robot

Uncle Wemus posted:

Well, the issue with that line of thought is that if we assume at first that he (or anyone accused of rape) is innocent, it has to mean that we assume that she is a liar.

And statistically speaking, a rape that is brought up is way way way way WAY more likely to have occurred than to have been made up in the mind of the accuser.*

Knowingly accusing somebody of rape when they did not commit it is as rare as falsely accusing of murder or falsely accusing of theft. It is crazy how when one guy accuses another guy if stealing, literally no one is going to automatically assume that he's a lying whore and anyways he wears make up and was drunk when it happened soooo let's just drop the case.

And yet, that's exactly what a woman goes through. And god help her if that man is better known or is liked than she is.

* This is used because this is a hypothetical here.

is this real lol

# ? Jul 16, 2014 18:53

David Copperfield: Mar 14, 2004; im david copperfield

RUssia is clearly part of no justice world

# ? Jul 16, 2014 18:54

Alberto Basalm: Nov 14, 2005

N. Senada posted:

NOT WESTERN JUSTICE!

imo if a woman is raped she should just buy a Six Gun and go after the rapist herself, that's how the law should be

# ? Jul 16, 2014 18:55

hemale in pain: Jun 5, 2010

Alberto Basalm posted:

imo if a woman is raped she should just buy a Six Gun and go after the rapist herself, that's how the law should be

agreed, but also for people who park in the bike lane

# ? Jul 16, 2014 18:57

Uncle Wemus: Mar 4, 2004

gently caress the ROW posted:

is this real lol

Yes

# ? Jul 16, 2014 18:59

N. Senada: May 17, 2011; My kidneys are busted

Uncle Wemus, nooooooo

# ? Jul 16, 2014 19:03

Alucard: Mar 11, 2002; Pillbug

hemale in pain posted:

agreed, but also for people who park in the bike lane

But also for bicyclists who want to share the road but ignore stop signs.

# ? Jul 16, 2014 19:03

N. Senada: May 17, 2011; My kidneys are busted

Alucard posted:

But also for bicyclists who want to share the road but ignore stop signs.

hahaha, science says bicycles shouldn't have to stop at signs, stop imposing your patriarchy on my fix-it

# ? Jul 16, 2014 19:06

hemale in pain: Jun 5, 2010

Alucard posted:

But also for bicyclists who want to share the road but ignore stop signs.

what about cars?? is it okay for them to ignore stop signs??

hosed up!

# ? Jul 16, 2014 19:08

KierkegaardsHo: Mar 21, 2004

I've had to bug girls about it for like 20 minutes before they had sex with me, is that rape guys?

# ? Jul 16, 2014 19:11

Squashing Machine: Jul 5, 2005; I mean boning, the wild mambo, the hunka chunka

Lots of rapey people coming to this guy's defense. Probably all men. White too!!!

# ? Jul 16, 2014 19:19

GABA ghoul: Oct 29, 2011

KierkegaardsHo posted:

I've had to bug girls about it for like 20 minutes before they had sex with me, is that rape guys?

everything is rape, and nothing is.

# ? Jul 16, 2014 19:21

pathetic little tramp: Dec 12, 2005; by Hillary Clinton's assassins; Fallen Rib

Here's how cards against humanity works for anyone who is curious:

Person A: "My car won't start. What's the reason?"

Person B: "Monkey cheese!"

Person C: "Richard Nixon!"

Person D: "Blanche from the Golden Girls!"

Person A: "Ha ha, Monkey Cheese is the best answer, Person B you get a point."

Repeat ad infinitum.

All of the questions and "punchlines" are pre-printed on cards so it's basically "you're too loving dull to be witty when you're high so we provided these for you you loving retard" the game.

# ? Jul 16, 2014 19:22

IRQ: Sep 9, 2001; SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

pathetic little tramp posted:

Here's how cards against humanity works for anyone who is curious:

Person A: "My car won't start. What's the reason?"

Person B: "Monkey cheese!"

Person C: "Richard Nixon!"

Person D: "Blanche from the Golden Girls!"

Person A: "Ha ha, Monkey Cheese is the best answer, Person B you get a point."

Repeat ad infinitum.

All of the questions and "punchlines" are pre-printed on cards so it's basically "you're too loving dull to be witty when you're high so we provided these for you you loving retard" the game.

Show me on the bigger blacker dick where cards against humanity raped you.

# ? Jul 16, 2014 19:26

Nigmaetcetera: Nov 17, 2004; borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins

cah is hilarious and great to play at family reunions where everyone is drunk, stoned, and tripping. if you disagree i hope you get turned into soap and lampshades.

it's totally poo poo to play sober though, like all games.

# ? Jul 16, 2014 19:28

solovyov: Feb 23, 2006; LAWYER FIGHT

pathetic little tramp posted:

All of the questions and "punchlines" are pre-printed on cards so it's basically "you're too loving dull to be witty when you're high so we provided these for you you loving retard" the game.

I had no curiosity about the game but enjoyed this description.

# ? Jul 16, 2014 19:30

David Copperfield: Mar 14, 2004; im david copperfield

I like CaH because it gives me a feeling of revenge against everyone I've ever played Apples to Apples against who insisted on playing 'seriously.'

# ? Jul 16, 2014 19:32

ArbitraryC: Jan 28, 2009; Pick a number, any number; Pillbug

David Copperfield posted:

Conclusion: no matter how heartfelt or sincere your denial of a rape accusation without proof is, it is obviously a trick taught by the Rapist Society.

That's pretty much what I read that as. What a dumb response to his comment.

Uncle Wemus posted:

Well, the issue with that line of thought is that if we assume at first that he (or anyone accused of rape) is innocent, it has to mean that we assume that she is a liar.

And statistically speaking, a rape that is brought up is way way way way WAY more likely to have occurred than to have been made up in the mind of the accuser.*

Knowingly accusing somebody of rape when they did not commit it is as rare as falsely accusing of murder or falsely accusing of theft. It is crazy how when one guy accuses another guy if stealing, literally no one is going to automatically assume that he's a lying whore and anyways he wears make up and was drunk when it happened soooo let's just drop the case.

And yet, that's exactly what a woman goes through. And god help her if that man is better known or is liked than she is.

* This is used because this is a hypothetical here.

The issue with that line of thought is it goes completely against our justice system. The thing is she's not even pressing charges so now it's basically making GBS threads on his character with no trial or proof and he's pretty much always going be known as that guy who made cards against humanity and is a rapist.

Statistics with respect to false rape allegations range from ~2% on the low side to closer to 10% on the high side but it's a pretty tricky subject to get stats for. It's obviously a pretty uncommon thing but it's not impossible and it's kind of lovely that there's no middle ground between "she must be a lying whore" or "he must be a rapist".

pathetic little tramp posted:

Here's how cards against humanity works for anyone who is curious:

All of the questions and "punchlines" are pre-printed on cards so it's basically "you're too loving dull to be witty when you're high so we provided these for you you loving retard" the game.

Apples to Apples and CAH get boring pretty fast because of the preprinted nature of the cards but the actual game is more about knowing what kind of humor your friends like. You're not witty for making a dead baby joke but maybe you are clever if you knew that would be the thing bob would like the most.

# ? Jul 16, 2014 19:40

vyst: Aug 25, 2009

Iggy Koopa posted:

everyone who has ever played cards against humanity is now a rapist by proxy

I'm a legit rapist so that's ok

# ? Jul 16, 2014 19:41

JerryLee: Feb 4, 2005; THE RESERVED LIST! THE RESERVED LIST! I CANNOT SHUT UP ABOUT THE RESERVED LIST!

what's the venn diagram of people who don't like CAH vs. those who don't like xkcd

# ? Jul 16, 2014 19:43

ArbitraryC: Jan 28, 2009; Pick a number, any number; Pillbug

Was kinda curious and the OP was too lazy to even provide any links with his rss newsfeed post but here's the post Temkin made in response to allegations on tumblr and facebook.

http://blog.maxistentialism.com/post/91476212698/this-is-a-blog-post-thats-incredibly-confusing

The accuser originally was on social media sites and you'll see snippets of her posts in various news articles and Max's blog that seem largely to focus on trying to boycott the game and using Max as an example of a good alumni, but she also put up a blog post that contains absolutely no details about the attack but does have a lot of motivational sounding fire and fury over the topic of rape.

http://humanityagainstassault.tumblr.com/post/91625206355/truth

# ? Jul 16, 2014 19:53