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Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

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:siren: NEW THREAD - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3657252 :siren:












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Welcome to the Destiny beta withdrawal syndrome thread. A new thread will replace this one just ahead of the retail release on the ninth of September.
Click this link to go to the second post for commonly sought-for in-game information, such as goon clan information and how to play with us.



Currently in progress: Section per section write-ups, fleshing out, completing information. // Coming up after that: Images and visual design.

If you have any input about the construction of the OP, additions or want something put into the second post, PM or please preface your post with @DestinyThreadOP and I will get right to it. This thread is rather barebones in favour of having one with proper information up and running for the beta, as desired by the community. If you think you can take over thread duties in time for retail, present a sample OP in September and let us all check it out.






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Activision presents - A Bungie production - DESTINY - To be released September 9th 2014
Genre: Phantasy Star Online FPS MMO CO-OP MULTIPLAYER-ACTION RACER NUDE-MAILBOXDANCER
http://www.destinythegame.com Twitter: @DestinyTheGame @Bungie
First public unveiling February 17th 2013: http://destiny.wikia.com/wiki/Reveal_Press_Conference
IGN's first look: http://me.ign.com/m/en/feature/7968/bungie-s-destiny-a-land-of-hope-and-dreams/
Official Youtube account with what you need: https://www.youtube.com/user/destinygame/videos

Once upon a time posted:

In the fascinating universe that Destiny takes place in, it was present day when mankind decided that it was a best to be nice to each other and co-operate, a giant leap for mankind took them all the way planet Mars where came upon a city-sized sphere, making the first official contact with alien life. This mysterious existence that came to be known as The Traveller blessed mankind with science and technology from afar, tripling the average lifespan and presenting cures for everything but bad videogames. The greatest Golden Age of mankind had begun, and humans soon spread out to colonize all the heavenly bodies in the solar system.

However, as if its awakening had attracted the attention of its only natural predator, a force of evil known only as The Darkness swept over the planets with nothing but conquering and genocide on their minds. Facing a last stand on planet Earth, The Traveler fought them off and there was peace, but at the cost of just about everything. The last colony ships left, leaving only handfuls of natural humans to see safety under The Traveller.

Centuries later with the Traveller hovering silent and dormant over the last city on earth, small drones called Ghosts pour from its badly damaged body to seek out and revive those they find suitable to serve as Guardians. It is 700 years in the future when Humans, Exo and Awoken set out to defend what light that remains, and to uncover the history that was lost.

That is the fancier back-story. The time is indeed 700 years from now and all that our freshly created characters know is that there is a mysterious globe hovering over the one remaining city on planet earth and the entire system is littered in ruins of the golden age. They feel a sense of protection from The Traveler, they also know how to kill the alien bastards threatening the original inhabitants of the solar system. The strange little flying thing that brought them back to life is an irritating little bastard, they also know.

Bungie posted:

One of the most ambitious games ever created, Destiny features a rich universe populated with colourful characters and fantastic worlds that are grounded in our solar system.

Destiny aspires to be defined not just as a ground-breaking video game, but as an epic entertainment property. The ambition is to create a universe that is as deep, tangible, and relatable as that of the Star Wars franchise.

Centered around adventure and fun, the game is designed to be highly social while also allowing for open exploration.

[Game versions and system differences] (art needed)http://www.destinythegame.com/wheretobuy/editions

quote:

Ghost Edition $149.99 - Steelbook case and physical disc copy of the game. Field manual. Star-chart. Folio. Postcards. Seasonpass ($35 value, expansion 1 and 2). Collectors Edition digital content. Golden Age relics. Replica of the Ghost. (99.9% sold out worldwide)
Limited Edition $99.99 - Everything of the Ghost Edition, barring the Ghost replica and Golden Age relics. CE content is an in-game Ghost skin, player emblem and ship skin.
Digital Guardian Edition $89.99 - Digital download. Early access to Vanguard armoury. Player-emblem bonus. Season-pass. Collectors Edition digital content.

Version differences (art demonstrating differences, a gif or two?)

quote:

Bungie decided on a 30fps framerate for all systems past and present in order to provide the same gaming experience, while there is no cross-play you will be able to bring your PS3 or Xbox 360 character to the PS4 or Xbox One version of the game respectively. Both current-generation consoles run at 1080p. The last generation consoles run a bit below 720p with pared back everything, but the good texture, model and environmental design makes the game shine.

Sony PlayStation exclusive content (art, banner of the stuff)

quote:

- Exclusive co-op Strike mission on Mars, The Dust Palace, fought against Cabal.
- Exclusive PvP map, Exodus Blue, a mid-size arena mainly for Control and Skirmish modes.
- Armour sets, Manifold Seeker for the Warlock, Vanir for the Titan, Argus for the Hunter.
- Weapons, The Monte Carlo exotic assault rifle and the hand cannon Hawkmoon
- Ships, Aurora Wake for Warlocks, Crypt Hammer for Titans, Outrageous Fortune for Hunters.

The official Destiny app is on the iOS and Android Google Play store, nothing for Windows Phone unfortunately. Remote play is possible using the Sony PlayStation Vita along with a Sony PlayStation 4 system, using the front screen for touch-inputs.





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How does it play? posted:

Destiny in function and play is more like Phantasy Star Online than anything else, the main hub is visited in your space-ship and you need to do some work in the story to reach new stellar locations to go to, there is also at least one on-foot hub where you see your character from a third-person perspective and communicate with NPCs, vendors and do account-wide trading.

When down on the ground the entire world-zone is accessible no matter the mode or mission you choose. In open-air areas you come across other players helpful for random events and the times you get more than you bargained for from the enemies, but indoor areas are subject to instancing or phasing, referred to as "bubbles" by Bungie, and you will only see your fire-team or group members in those areas. Be aware, during missions there will be areas where you will not respawn and resume your progress, you will instead start at your most recent checkpoint, bring a friend!

Locations posted:


Planet Earth - Where the game begins.
Moon Moon - Starts off with a level 6 mission.
Venus - Known from early footage to contain a level 10 mission.

Public events cover these worlds, here's a Reddit post from beta http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2bbqs1/public_events_guide/ trying to nail times down.

Game-modes posted:

Missions can be handled alone or with a friend, once you've finished one up you can re-play it as many times as you like, even challenge it in harder difficulty levels.
Strikes are the equivalent of MMO instances for up to three players with open automated match-making and several difficulty levels and special events, open-air bubbles are (sometimes?) shared for extra assistance during harder encounters, unconfirmed is if weather or not three-player striketeams will combine.
Raids are six-player challenges that Bungie regularly assure us that they deserve being manual-matchmaking only. Professional raid-teams from MMORPGs have been said to take a weekend of many hours a day to figure it out, team-play and decision-making, timing and communication being essential, along with problem-solving and just maybe having the right temper and comradery.
Explorationprovides random missions picked up from probes sent from the various factions in the game, this is an often more relaxed and peaceful way to gain their gratitude. See the below image for what the icon of the mission on offer requires from you:


The competitive modes carry heavy traces of Bungie's FPS action past in Halo, six modes as seen below were available in beta though only one was playble, along with the Iron Banner special event where level advantages were enabled.


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The Grimoire: Exploration, Golden Chests and Dead Ghosts posted:

Much like the true story of Dark Souls was found in its item descriptions, Destiny uses the Grimoire to answer questions of curious players. Cards that expand its data are had from playing and exploring the game, from killing specific amounts of enemies, getting certain amounts of kills, finishing missions and strikes, reviving dead ghosts, everything earns and unlocks more cards. Get a head-start and enter these seventeen codes from press preview events at http://www.bungie.net/en/User/coderedemption.
code:
YKA-RJG-MH9	3DA-P4X-F6A	MVD-4N3-NKH	TCN-HCD-TGY	HDX-ALM-V4K	473-MXR-3X9
JMR-LFN-4A3	HC3-H44-DKC	69P-KRM-JJA	69P-VCH-337	69R-CKD-X7L	69R-DDD-FCP
69R-F99-AXG	69R-VL7-J6A	69X-DJN-74V	6A7-7NP-3X7	6A9-DTG-YGN

Each planet (current knowledge) hides five golden chests, the final one rewarding the player with a grand reward. On planet earth the player gains an uncommon S-20 series personal vehicle, see this video for details.

Dead ghosts are scattered all over the world, often hiding in plain sight but escaping your eyes each ghost tells a story. Use the Android/iOS Destiny app to read these on the go![/quote]

Four of the enemy species you will face posted:

The Fallen are the first enemies you encounter in the game, a race of four-armed bio-mechanically modified space-pirates making the most of the de-populated earth they have come a little too close to the survivors for their own best. Fallen society is a caste system; the lowest Fallen have one set of arms removed and carry only blades for weapons, whereas the higher standing have been enhanced to stand many heads larger than the others and given powerful shielded armour.

The Hive are the closest to The Darkness, that is what is known so far.

The Vex are time, space and dimension travelling robots. Not encountered in alpha nor beta.

The Cabal are basically huge Klingon. Not encountered in alpha nor beta.





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[Characters and classes, levels and attributes] New section, to be indicated in art

(Races)(artwork coming) (preliminary writings, coming during beta)
There are no differences with your choice besides the sounds your character makes, and what he or she looks like with the helmet off in a no-combat area.


Grimoire data on EXO posted:

Built for a long-forgotten struggle, Exos are self-aware war machines so advanced that nothing short of a Ghost can understand their inner functions. They remain ciphers, even to themselves: their origins and purpose lost to time.

Whoever built the Exos fashioned them in humanity's image, gifting them with diversity of mind and body. Many of the City's Exo citizens live and work alongside their organic brethren. But others fight again, re-forged in the Light of the Traveler to serve as Guardians

Grimoire data on Human posted:

Humans are survivors, tough and resilient, descended from those who built a Golden Age only to see it ripped away. Now, after an age of retreat and desperate struggle, they fight to take back their solar system and claim a new future.

There are those who believe the Traveler chose Earth for a reason. Now it is humanity's obligation to prove itself worthy of the Traveler's faith.

Grimoire data on Awoken posted:

It is said that the Awoken were born in the Collapse, descended from those who tried to flee its wrath. Something happened to them out on the edge of the deep black, and they were forever changed.

Today many Awoken live in the distant Reef, aloof and mysterious. But others returned to Earth, where their descendants now fight for the City.

Earthborn Awoken sometimes venture out to the Reef, hoping to learn its secrets — but they find no special welcome from the reclusive Queen.

(classes and their abilities)(artwork coming) (preliminary writings for all classes, beta info required) Until a good solution is figured out or flat out programmed, these links of class and subclass information is recommended. The first subclass opens up at level 15, the game may ship with only one subclass with a third opening up later. More detailed information on Titan classes, Hunter classes, Warlock classes.

Hunter - Solar power (To be given art) (Primary class, two subclasses exist)

quote:

While there is no holy trinity in Destiny, the Hunter is the most agile of the three, something like the rogue out of WoW with just about everything focused on the ability to deal damage directly or over-time rather than heal, boost or protect. This is the DPS class with what we know at the moment.
Sub-classes and supers Solar - Golden Gun.
Class equipment Hunter cloak
Grenades DoT solar damage, Swarm grenade, Tripmine
Melee Throwing knives
Jumps Double-jump (upgradable to triple)
Titan - (missing art) (Primary class, two subclasses exist)

quote:

History says that the Titan were the ones who built the Wall during the Fall of the golden age and the invasion of the Darkness. In PvE they are the stronger and more tank-like of the classes, consider them the Paladin of Destiny.
Sub-classes and supers Fist of Havoc
Class equipment Wallet chain
Grenades Flashbang, pulse grenade, lightning grenade
Melee Storm fist, a charged punch.
Jumps Lift (jetpack, upgradable to air control, greater heights, burst-lift)
Warlock - Void power (hitting art) (Primary class, two subclasses exist)

quote:

The warlocks studied the Traveler and gained the power of magic, trenchcoats and cyclopean helmet designs.
Sub-classes and supers Void - Nova Bomb.
Class equipment Trenchcoat
Grenades Vortex, Scatter, Axion bolt
Melee Energy Drain
Jumps Glide

quote:

The maximum level you can reach raw is 20, deliberately set low in order to be reachable at a decent pace. After hitting level 20 you are rewarded with Motes of Light rather than new levels, and through equipment with the Light attribute your level will increase past 20, enabling you to take on higher level enemies. As your character grows more accustomed to wearing equipment carrying the Light attribute the amount of Light you can use to increase your level will increase even further.

(Attributes and what they do) (nab theorycrafting from elsewhere about the stats, how classes prefer this, what does what)





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(weapons)(to get fancy useful art)(of course its preliminary writing)
hand cannon - triggerpulling, revolvertype
machine gun - heavy weapon duh
pulse rifle - burst firing thing
rocket laun - duh
scout rifle - one click per shot, rewards precision
shotgun - close combat, Halo strong
sniper rifl - camping edges of maps
auto rifle - hold down fire and aim, but respectable
fusion rifl - charges up before it fires, cannot hold charge

(armour etc if at all necessary? Maybe cover NPC rewarding and a bit about sets, looks, defense VS armour? )

(Vehicles, spacecraft)
Your forms of transportation are unlocked by playing the game, consider your first five six levels on planet Earth the tutorial. First you get your space-ship just as the Ghost wakes you from your once eternal sleep, a few missions later the Ghost hacks you into the Sparrow grid, enabling summoning of that. Not long afterwards obtaining a warp drive becomes your goal, enabling your ship to actually escape the atmosphere and head to your next target - The Moon!

The space-ships come in various forms and rarities, but currently seem to do nothing but provide the player with a more or less unique looking craft. It is unknown weather or not the final game will make a 9500 Glimmer rare space-ship have any advantage over the one you get free from the game. There are just short of a hundred different ones to get.

The personal land-vehicles and come with different durability and speed ratings, the starter one is slow and lacks features but later models feature boosts, improved handling and vastly improved speed and agility.

Ghosts n Gopniks fucked around with this message at 11:47 on Aug 12, 2014

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Reserved for more Post#2 content. Here there will be frequently asked questions, things that are good to know, submit them for my reading by prefacing your post with @DestinyThreadOP

Official website: http://www.destinythegame.com
Database, character builder etc: http://www.destinydb.com
Handy goonmade stuff: https://destiny.ndarville.com/

PGS clan thread and how to enter http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3644857 Due to a clan size limit of 75 there will be several smaller but all operating under the flag of the group of the goons, sub-clans are listed in that thread!

quote:

DO NOT POST THAT YOU JOINED OR SIGNED UP IN THIS THREAD. You can do so on IRC (#desintygoons on synirc) or I will cross reference your Authed join to the primary group.
Come group up with goons! IRC channel #destinygoons on synIRC
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Q: The PvP sucks
Halo professionals playing Destiny say:

quote:

#1 - Use the highest sensitivity so that you can turn the fastest. It's quick to tune down for when you switch back to PvE
#2 - When you shoot you want to be in ADS, aiming down sight, for precision with the speed your view moves at.
#3 - Watch the radar. WATCH THE RADAR. WATCH THE RADAR.
#4 - Learn the classes so you know what you face and how to deal with it.
#5 - Let your rage out but not on these forums, see #4
#6 - Practice practice practice

Also read this > http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3651139&userid=125714
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http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2bjjzb/which_gun_is_best_for_you_a_more_in_depth_look_at/ damage theorycrafting 1
http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2brx1s/some_mechanics_behind_the_damage_calculations_in/ damage theorycrafting 2
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Q: Which class is the best/for me?
PvE? All should be fine solo, the hunter is more about damage and boosting that, the warlock about AE nukes and leeching, the titan about taking damage and protecting with a divine shield like ability. PvP? The hunter is about long range or close range damage of an insane level, depending on your subclass. The Warlock has access to a self-resurrect or a nuke depending on sub, when it comes to the titan we only know about a great big ground punch that is very risky but quite effective.
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PvE pro-tip: Carry weapons able to deal various kinds of damage, some enemies can be very strong, nearly immune to certain kinds. Shields quickly become an issue if you do not have the required weapon to bring them down.
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Ghosts n Gopniks fucked around with this message at 11:18 on Jul 29, 2014

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limaCAT posted:

To stop listening to the moon joke! :downsrim:

Oh :drat:
I will buy a Three Ghost Moon shirt if they make it though.



Daric posted:

Ugh, I've never gotten an email from Bungie. Not for the Alpha and not so far for this. I've tried getting them to send verification emails and, even though my email address is correct, they're not coming through. And now I've had them send the verification so many times that it says I need to cool off before they'll send another one. This sucks. I just want to put in all those codes for the grimoire.

Weird. Using a special email service? No way to put @bungie in your filters?

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Triggsz posted:

Should we start using a Destiny-spreadsheet to find other goons instead of using the PSN one? Or will the Bnet group help organize things ingame?

I think that would make a very handy PGS thread rather than big systemwide ones.

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Voice modulated Dinklage sounds pretty great as the Ghost, but did they mention the level limit of the beta?


e: Alliances of clans to be a thing in the final game, PvP modes and descriptions http://imgur.com/a/BKqju , in-game bonuses from grimoire grinding

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Confirmed 1080p for Xbox One, beta version is not of the June SDK branch so will be 900p or whatever it is now, IGN to provide 1080p Xbox One footage before beta.

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Unconfirmed: Level cap for is 8 until it resumes on the 23rd. Supposedly said at one point on the IGN stream by Deej.

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I'm kinda looking forward to seeing what the PS3 version looks and plays like. Some engines handle PS3 far better than 360 like Source. Any peeps here with HDMI capturing equipment and HDCP circumvention stuff ready for it?


suddenlyissoon posted:

Level 8 will be accomplished in a few hours after release.

It was sped up for alpha, it'll be more realistic now.

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C2C - 2.0 posted:

Also, glimmer accumulating slower & spinmetal being rarer are kinda' neat changes too.

Less gambling with cyber-Gheed, more grinding :smith:

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Skeleton King posted:

never seen an op rush so hard to be the first to make a thread that they left out 90% of the content

Oh you mean the copy pasted content from 2012 leaks and outdated 2013 presentations and articles written up by other sites like the previous one which long had people crying for a new thread with beta information and the majority being okay with a barebones OP as long as it had the most important information in it?

Yeah, that's the one. Nobody else lifted a finger on making a new thread, I even improvised what you see in it after a shift-delete accident, the game is changing and Bungie are secretive so the OP is in progress together with the game and grows as we figure things out.

e: There, I added a link to the old thread OP.


I want to add a clever Halo + Borderlands (+ ThirdGame) screenshot-combo in the OP to make it more understandable what the game is though, maybe even in bandwidth-friendly gif format. Taking suggestions and contributions.

And I decided to not go with the FROM THE MOON meme when making the thread title. Three people gave suggestions though.

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That loving Sned posted:

I'm a huge nerd and have this already set up, so I should try some amateur Digital Foundry poo poo. Do the PS3 and PS4 versions have separate codes?

Excellent!
Enter code > Chose platform, but supposedly they are region locked.

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If the balance remains like alpha, shotguns for close combat, if you can aim reliably use a scout rifle, if you want to feel good when you do well work with the fusion rifle, beware of lagged players and the coolest faction is:

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I think that's the client download. You won't be flagged for entry unless you carry the pre-order.

Once you have different timezones and regions of sub-clans sorted out I'll add them to the OP (added Euro1), going through the past pages again.



And what is up with the non-predownloading of the North American PSN? We've had that in Europe for quite a while, even before the GTA5 pre-load was cracked open. You guys are the ones who need it the most.

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After GTA Online got up on its feet and Destiny had been presented, Bungie came out and stated it as an example of why they wanted the most testing they could get, Kutaragi-like talks of millions of testers pushing their systems.

PSN Store (Scandinavia) seems under maintenance again.

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Confirming PSN pre-orders are just about waiting until your account gets flagged and ready. I'll update the thread bit by bit as time goes on, now it's time to have a good session.

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Alright, the story has me interested bigtime. If it was a 600+ page scifi book I'd read the heck outta it.

Had a good few missions with limaCAT despite the in-game music deafening our voices, a welcome break from doing them solo which is a good fun challenge though it makes you feel that the stronger targets are bulletsponges. What a rush they were, too!

Noticing a bit of an improvement of graphical bling in exchange for some framedrops, also noticing the bad AF even more. Sony need to help developers since they are the only ones who know how to get more than paltry AF running.

Overall - pumped and pleased. Gonna head to 8 and then work on thread material.

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a cop posted:

Is the opening cutscene supposed to look like utter poo poo with artifacting all over the place? I can't believe how bad it looks, ps4.

Nope. It was as clear as if it could have been realtime engine footage here.

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The PS3 version looks better than I thought, considering the age of the console of course: http://guymelef.minus.com/mwPLR8yE37Pmm


The largest difference can be seen outdoors, indoors it's real good, though everything that's missing from the PS4 version is clear as day in a face-punching way. Is it 30fps? Does it feel the same? Then it doesn't matter much, design-wise beautiful game.

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Feels like shotguns were made reasonable for this (branched off the main path because it was stable) build instead of being have it or die in close range, really enjoyable fight on Venus, great map too, truly feels like it was designed by people who did their job in the 90's rather than trying to modernize and do what the children and focus groups want for maps. COD mappers should learn from them, and the original IW.

I think earth to Crucible is the tutorial, teaching you all you need to know to really get going in the game, then the next step is the Moon, because you got the inter-planetary drive. They should be opening it up if anything as the beta is about twice the size of the alpha.


Any impressions from PS3 testers? How does it play and feel?

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SlippyFists posted:

Game is okay. I haven't been paying much attention to it, so I didn't know what the pvp was going to be like. I thought it would be more battlefield-like, but it's just more like halo (obviously). If that's the case, then I guess I'll be skipping this one. The titan class just doesn't feel right either, definitely the weakest of the three classes..

Well, at least one game mode will take care of that

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Join in progress for Strikes :woop: No more scrapping the run if somebody leaves

Aishan posted:

A little something people might want to know: If you find all five of the Golden Chests on the Russia map, you get an upgraded speeder bike.

Here's the locations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eakRwAUprY0

Thank you, added it to the OP as a clickable image link of the three Sparrows like this



(In doing so I learned that just hitting the screenshot button in Hauppauge Capture gives a terrible jpeg, but capturing from a 14mbps recording is much better. Gonna dump the HDPVR2 before the year is over for a better unit)



e: Theory: If they find they do not need to wipe data ahead of going into retail, we can start off with our characters at the first moon mission, provided we've taken the necessary steps to get there in beta.

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FishBulb posted:

I really hope there are more weapon types in the full game. Where are the fun Halo weapons like the needler and the sword? I'm sure there will be more I mean there are only 2 types of heavy weapons right now.

Yeah, been thinking about submitting a question to their mailbag asking if these are all the weapon types we're going to get, or if there will be something more exotic and interesting once we get to Mars, Venus and the Reef. I'd like the stuff used by the enemies.

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Static Rook posted:

Also, um, did anybody go down those steps in that small garage? Were the crazy high level Exalted Knight and Exalted Acolyte down there in the Alpha? That was a suprise one shot death.

After bingeing for another 4 hours, yeah, the handcannons and shotguns just weren't doing it for me. The Scout Rifles do everything a Handcannon can do, but better. And the shotguns just don't seem that powerful. Those charge rifles aren't great either, or I just haven't figured out how to use them well. I guess I'm sticking with a sniper rifle as my special weapon. I just unlocked heavy weapons though so I'll be trying some full autos tonight.

Yup! Getting past them led to a dead Ghost and Grimoire card unlock as well as a random loot chest, but now it's come clear that higher level enemies are so much harder to get past. One used to be able to buzz past high ones with ease and even dodge their attacks in the Alpha but now they shoot harder and more accurate.

Handcannons feel downtuned from alpha, slower and not really worth bothering with. Like they had more of a punch. Shotguns are still fine for close range PvP but less of the have-it-or-lose weapon they were, and good. Fusion (Charge) rifles are tricky with their charge time and not in everyones taste, but can lead to great success in the field especially on maps with choke points and longer ranges.

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limaCAT posted:

The first is the actual race description, the other three cards are just terrible exo erotica.

The Lusty Exonian Maid.
Opens-Her-Ports: Certainly not, kind sir! I am here but to beep beep boop.

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Going to jump in and work on Hunter and Warlock and new framegrabs, if you have anything you think is a frequently asked question of in-game stuff, or something that just would suit being in second post, please quote this with what you'd like added.

e: I'll do as much as the unreliable Hauppauge HDPVR2 and associated software lets me do, jesus.

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Cutscenes confirmed unskippable, at least for now. Maybe they're using some scripting or loading while they're running to half-mask loading times? Urgh.

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Crucible PvP access is account-wide after completing it on one character, so one mission and you can start the PvP grind. At least they got that right.

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Depending on location they mess with your voice, I can now confirm. Try one in the hangar, one in the main area of the Tower and see. Exo players get a robotic filter in addition to that.


MickRaider posted:

Also doesn't the UI feel like it's designed for KB/M?

Not to me. I felt like it was designed to make an original new thing for a console shooter and not get stuck doing what they have been doing for so long. Would be a bit better if we could use the touchpad on the DS4 but otherwise digging it. Would not switch to a d-pad/analogue-stick like mad to do things system.


MickRaider posted:

In other thoughts, why the hell can't PS3 players play vs PS4 players? It's never a problem on the PC to have different system capabilities play against each other.

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2014/07/17/bungie-explains-why-destiny-cross-platform-play-isnt-happening/#/slide/1

quote:

I’ll speak for the hypothetical player. I have a disadvantage sniping across the map because [my opponent with a new-gen console] is only two pixels on my screen and I’m four pixels on his. You see that in the world of PC gaming, where people are always racing to the best video card to give themselves the advantage.

Regardless of where the reality is, there’s definitely a perception among gamers that better hardware means you have an advantage. We don’t want to have to enter that fray, so to create the best, most level playing field, both actually and perceptually, we separated it by platform.

also this bombshell

quote:

Let’s say Destiny 2 [and] Destiny 3 are out, and we have new players joining the fun. [They] want to play those new games alongside those who have been playing Destiny from the beginning. [We want to ensure] they won’t feel like they’re four years behind. And then, if they want to, they’ll be able to go back and pick up the old content on their same character.

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It's hard to figure out a good comparative table-like solution comparing classes and subclasses. The jumps so far are all the same between them, melee supers and grenades are what's different but Warlock and Hunter share many of the grenade types and effects. Maybe just beta stuff, maybe the Titan gets something not unique in the third subclass.

I'd like to just slap an tarted up excel table in there but settled for reddit links until then.



a cop posted:

I recommend experimenting and using whatever you gel with in multiplayer. Some people swear by other stuff but I almost exclusively use...uh..whichever sort of secondary weapon you have to charge for every shot, and I absolutely dominate people 1shotting them one after the next. You have to stick in areas with midrange-to-close sightlines for it to work though.

Fusion rifles, they feel so much better this time around, I swear the projectiles are larger as to make up for the charge time that previously made them very unforgiving on the user. They served me well on Venus.

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If the Ghost voice-acting really was written and direct to be that "alive" in its commentary, I take that as a sign that the Traveler is more biological than mechanical.

Bungie have a twenty year history of writing great AI. (and it's too early to say if it has continued)

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GeauxSteve posted:

Where are the rest of them?

The OP.

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If you know where the RAS-2 bunker entrance was in alpha, get back there, they've changed some things around in a cool way. Forgot to get caps.



Jolo posted:

How do equipped item skill unlocks work? I'll find a pair of gloves that increase how quickly my character reloads pulse rifles, but it'll take a short while before the skill unlocks. I thought it was just time equipped, but then I got a gun with a skill that unlocked after turning in a mission.

Will each class eventually learn all of their skills? I kept expecting a level up to result in an either/or decision as far as advancement is concerned, but it seems like skills are just unlocked one by one. I must be misinterpreting the skill screen though, right? I'm still not sure how the experience that fills up towards a new skill is determined. Is it based on use? Throwing more grenades increases your grenade skill more quickly? I figure some of you that played the alpha may be able to clarify some of this.

It feels like mission completion, turning in missions rewards your weapons as well, and it's weird. Not like they were hard to grind up in the first place.

I think yes. But you need to switch between subclases. Not lock them. Nobody can confirm anything about that yet but it would be a pain to have to sit for 15-30 (to get everything) levels before locking the first subclass option before getting to open up another.



Interstellar Owl posted:

Is there a way to prevent people from joining your game and buffing the enemies to the point where they are immune?

Open up Roster, and under Fireteam you want to get the option for Closed. It's per-character, or per-session.

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FishBulb posted:

I didn't get the impression that you were supposed to be a legendary hero as much as the galaxy is so desperate for heros even a nobody like you was super important.

This.

The Titans built the walls, the Hunters were scavengers, the Warlocks studied the Traveler and even before the fall had the powers they do. The player characters were special people before their death.



I've worn out the rubber on my left DS4 stick to this. Not like I'll be playing anything between the beta going down on the 27th and the retail release.

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quote:

Will anything in the Beta change after the two days of maintenance or the dates of the Beta after the 22nd?

Yes - especially on the 26th. You want to be there for that day. Report for Beta testing duty at 2PM Pacific. Your rewards will be handsome and permanent.
and http://www.bungie.net/7_Bungie-Weekly-Update---07182014/en/News/News?aid=11938 for an event on the 19th etc



General Battuta posted:

Where are you getting this? Particularly Warlocks existing pre-Collapse or the identity of Guardians pre-resurrection?

I read reddit and the links posted therein :v:

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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:

Where is this?

If you've done that mission where the Ghost probes the two spots where the Fallen listen to weird Russian radio out by the rusty shipwrecks? The second one has stairs leading down on the other side of the room, keep going down.

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haveblue posted:

What do you do with spinmetal? I think I found this in the alpha once but haven't in the beta.

Turn in 20 to a Vanguard or Crucible NPC, first Android you can interact with in the hangar and the Android (or skinny slim Exo?) on the left as you enter the hall of Vanguards. Glimmer, exp and reputation, I believe badges also as rewards. Handy way to level up, always worth going out of your way to pick the stuff especially now.


a cop posted:

My headcannon is that our ghost is a dumbass and we got the same schpiel he gives every schmuck he brings back from the dead, before they inevitably die again.

Same here, after that comment to the Speaker of chosing the right.



e: Some guy translated the words of a certain AI you run into, it's a return to form for Bungie :unsmith:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=121682218&postcount=16621

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As the event approaches I'll post reminders, for now it's in the OP top together with CET and GMT times. For now I gotta scram though, thunderstorm.


CottonWolf posted:

Good stuff. It was Bungie, so I wasn't too worried.

Once you step into the actual story of the game it doesn't take long until you learn it's true Bungie, 1994 and on Bungie. Safe to say I'm super happy about what tiny little bit we've experienced so far in story (five missions?)

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Was there a rollback? Finished my warlock, got the hunter to six and wrapped the night up with a strike. Today it was like before that session began. Hmm

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Reading places like Kotaku and NeoGAF I've found that many people with a negative impression have played the first mission, hit the tower, entered the free-roam part of the game and that's it. Maybe they should consider this Old Russia part more of a tutorial and actually point people around. "You can do do this for a while, or go here and continue with a story, but there's a bullet-sponge boss waiting so bring a friend or do your best?"


Quinch posted:

Just a question I've got about sharing videos, do people create a fake Facebook account to upload stuff to and then copy the flash so they can render it to youtube? I don't use Facebook much but that's the only way I can see you doing it.

Yep. Or plug a USB stick in.

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