Return of the Revenge of the July Chat Thread: Guess Who's Back

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frankenfreak: Feb 16, 2007; I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

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Wilde Jagd posted:

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Down With People: Oct 31, 2012; The child delights in violence.

frankenfreak posted:

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Error 404: Jul 17, 2009; MAGE CURES PLOT

frankenfreak posted:

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Infinite Oregano: Dec 31, 2007; I'm going to make my friends eat infinite oregano and they'll have to do it because the recipe says so!

frankenfreak posted:

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Mitama: Feb 28, 2011

So asking for a friend, does anyone have any good examples of game systems with interesting/deep social mechanics?

# ? Jul 20, 2014 03:18

Mors Rattus: Oct 25, 2007; FATAL & Friends
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Ars Magica uses a system of debate combat, but it's expressly unsuited for normal conversation.

The new Chronicle books for nWoD have a social influence system that is...interesting, if nothing else. It involves taking time and using different kinds of influence to try to open Doors, which allows you to get the subject to listen to you/do things. It's usually a fairly longterm effort without special bonuses.

Other than that, off the top of my head...can't think of much else.

# ? Jul 20, 2014 03:35

Ratpick: Oct 9, 2012; And no one ate dinner that night.

TurninTrix posted:

So asking for a friend, does anyone have any good examples of game systems with interesting/deep social mechanics?

Burning Wheel's got the Duel of Wits system, which basically gives argument and debate the same mechanical weight usually given to just physical combat.

Also, Fate's basic conflict system models any conflict whether physical or social through the same mechanics.

There's also Monsterhearts, where the social mechanic is largely based around gaining emotional leverage (Strings) on other people, which can be used for various things, including manipulation. It even allows for PC on PC manipulation without resorting to "social skills as mind control" like some systems do. Basically a player can expend a String to dangle an experience point in front of another player and say "My character would like your character to do something for them" and the targeted player can either do as they're told and take the point or decline and not get the XP. Definitely the most elegant approach to PvP manipulation in my opinion.

# ? Jul 20, 2014 03:43

Ettin: Oct 2, 2010

# ? Jul 20, 2014 03:48

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

At a con I bought the base set for Serpent's Tongue. I saw it in the game room and thought it looked cool. It was pitched to me a a RPG/ARG game. Didn't realize till after I got it it was also a CCG.

Did anyone else get this? I haven't even did a dry run with it, but it looks SO COOL!

# ? Jul 20, 2014 03:51

unzealous: Mar 24, 2009; Die, Die, DIE!

TurninTrix posted:

So asking for a friend, does anyone have any good examples of game systems with interesting/deep social mechanics?

You should check out A Dirty World. Its Stolze's One Roll Engine and an interesting part is physical and social combat work are treated the same way. You can essentially talk people into submission or be talked into an uncontrollable rage. Also it actually handles pvp well to an extent, you can have players attack each other without worrying about combat dude murdering everyone, though guns are still dangerous.

# ? Jul 20, 2014 03:52

Libertad!: Oct 30, 2013; You can have the last word, but I'll have the last laugh!

BigRed0427 posted:

At a con I bought the base set for Serpent's Tongue. I saw it in the game room and thought it looked cool. It was pitched to me a a RPG/ARG game. Didn't realize till after I got it it was also a CCG.

Did anyone else get this? I haven't even did a dry run with it, but it looks SO COOL!

This has nothing to do with Smilin Sammy G.

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Dagon: Apr 16, 2003

Libertad! posted:

This has nothing to do with Smilin Sammy G.

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Ettin: Oct 2, 2010

Libertad! posted:

This has nothing to do with Smilin Sammy G.

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Darwinism: Jan 6, 2008

Libertad! posted:

This has nothing to do with Smilin Sammy G.

Sorry, this implies that Sammy is not with us at all times, smiling benevolently. Gonna have to burn you at the stake.

# ? Jul 20, 2014 04:08

Error 404: Jul 17, 2009; MAGE CURES PLOT

Darwinism posted:

Sorry, this implies that Sammy is not with us at all times, smiling benevolently. Gonna have to burn you at the stake.

BURN THE NON-BELIEVER!

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# ? Jul 20, 2014 07:57

Infinite Oregano: Dec 31, 2007; I'm going to make my friends eat infinite oregano and they'll have to do it because the recipe says so!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUmm-JZM0Js

# ? Jul 20, 2014 11:35

Libertad!: Oct 30, 2013; You can have the last word, but I'll have the last laugh!

Look who's got an ask.fm!

# ? Jul 20, 2014 18:53

Libertad!: Oct 30, 2013; You can have the last word, but I'll have the last laugh!

# ? Jul 20, 2014 20:09

Sloppy Milkshake: Nov 9, 2004; I MAKE YOU HUMBLE

I've been playing through Divinity: Original Sin, and it got me wondering about AP systems. Are there any PnP games that use an actual Action Point system like Fallout or Divinity?

# ? Jul 21, 2014 06:37

Tulul: Oct 23, 2013; THAT SOUND WILL FOLLOW ME TO HELL.

TheSpookyDanger posted:

I've been playing through Divinity: Original Sin, and it got me wondering about AP systems. Are there any PnP games that use an actual Action Point system like Fallout or Divinity?

The Dark Heresy reboot did, before they scrapped it. It was basically just a more granular version of the two Half actions you got in the original; what used to cost a Half action cost 2 AP and you got 4 per turn.

Now that you mention it, I'm kind of surprised that not many more games have tried something like it. The ability to just add or subtract AP seems like it would be a decent endrun around the whole action economy problem that a lot of games have.

# ? Jul 21, 2014 06:58

Lynx Winters: May 1, 2003; Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora

Feng Shui has a form of it, where you determine how many Shots (action points) you get at the start of the turn, then whoever has the most goes first. Most actions cost 3 shots, and when the action has been resolved you check to see who has the most again until everyone's shots are spent and you move on to the next turn.

# ? Jul 21, 2014 07:36

A Catastrophe: Jun 26, 2014

Less granular action economies aren't a bad thing if they fit gameplay. Particularly on the tabletop, it's often better to have simpler 'pieces' of design space, like a move+attack scheme. Easier to understand in play, and easier to balance in development.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 02:12

Spincut: Jan 14, 2008; Oh! OSHA gonna make you serve time!
'Cause you an occupational hazard tonight.

There's a Dragon Age RPG? And Green Ronin just released the third book "completing" the core rules?

I have a sinking feeling that I know the answer to this question already, but...is it any good?

# ? Jul 22, 2014 17:58

Ewen Cluney: May 8, 2012; Ask me about
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Spincut posted:

There's a Dragon Age RPG? And Green Ronin just released the third book "completing" the core rules?

I have a sinking feeling that I know the answer to this question already, but...is it any good?

From what I've seen it's a decent but fairly generic fantasy RPG with a few nifty touches, most notably in the whole "stunt die" thing. (The base resolution system is to roll 2d6, but you roll a third die of a different color, which gives you points you can spend on extra "stunt" stuff for your action.) One thing people have complained about is that in the first boxed set you play general adventurers, and can't actually play a Grey Warden like in the video games.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 18:26

Spincut: Jan 14, 2008; Oh! OSHA gonna make you serve time!
'Cause you an occupational hazard tonight.

Ewen Cluney posted:

From what I've seen it's a decent but fairly generic fantasy RPG with a few nifty touches, most notably in the whole "stunt die" thing. (The base resolution system is to roll 2d6, but you roll a third die of a different color, which gives you points you can spend on extra "stunt" stuff for your action.) One thing people have complained about is that in the first boxed set you play general adventurers, and can't actually play a Grey Warden like in the video games.

That actually sounds kinda cool. I'll check out the quick start stuff at least. Thanks!

In other news, what are people getting in the DTRPG Christmas in July sale? I think I'm going to pick up the Atomic Robo RPG and Double Cross, at least.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 19:39

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
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Lynx Winters posted:

Feng Shui has a form of it, where you determine how many Shots (action points) you get at the start of the turn, then whoever has the most goes first. Most actions cost 3 shots, and when the action has been resolved you check to see who has the most again until everyone's shots are spent and you move on to the next turn.

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