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Peaceful protest accomplish nothing.
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Jul 20, 2014 22:19
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Big Beef City posted:You know that whole Arab Spring thing really died out quick I wonder what happened to that lol prolly nothin'. And it also failed.
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Jul 20, 2014 22:30
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Negative Entropy posted:The Arab Spring wasn't peaceful. algeria lowered its food prices 
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Jul 20, 2014 22:31
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Arri posted:depends on the type of protest The Tea Party protests worked. A handful of white morons standing on the corners with misspelled signs changed the national political dialog and forced one of the two major political parties to swing hard to the right.
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Jul 20, 2014 22:35
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Nope. that bullshit is for sanctimonious middle-class liberals, a protest is a big COMPLETELY inoffensive way to tell people you are "standing" for x cause. It is the real life equivalent of talking real loud about your loving political opinions to impress people. Anyone who goes to protests are either bragging about it at parties (right after stories about loving vacations) or they're bragging about it in their loving squat/college dorm. I've got no love for protestors.
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Jul 20, 2014 22:40
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Chris Awful posted:Peaceful protest accomplish nothing. Yeah, a bunch of limp-wristed human being anarchists breaking working-class people's cars and causing the world's gayest ruckus will REALLY make america less of a hard place to live for so many - not for the goddam anarchists of course, they're all too busy living off their parent's trustfunds, gentrifying neighborhoods, and trying their hardest to be a bunch of obnoxious effeminate idiots.
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Jul 20, 2014 22:47
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basically positive change is impossible at this point and when the revolution comes it will probably be some theocratic buttholes who got sick of representative democracy kayfabe. whatever, gently caress it, smoke em if you got em america.
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Jul 20, 2014 22:50
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Negative Entropy posted:The Arab Spring wasn't peaceful. tunisia is doing great op
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Jul 20, 2014 22:52
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NotWearingPants posted:The Tea Party protests worked. A handful of white morons standing on the corners with misspelled signs changed the national political dialog and forced one of the two major political parties to swing hard to the right.
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Jul 20, 2014 22:53
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Smoking Crow posted:tunisia is doing great op 14 soldiers just got killed in militant attacks in Tunisia
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Jul 20, 2014 22:54
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Filippo Corridoni posted:Nope. that bullshit is for sanctimonious middle-class liberals, a protest is a big COMPLETELY inoffensive way to tell people you are "standing" for x cause. It is the real life equivalent of talking real loud about your loving political opinions to impress people. Says a guy who's mad his pet perspective never got protested for or against.
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Jul 20, 2014 22:55
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paranoid randroid posted:basically positive change is impossible at this point and when the revolution comes it will probably be some theocratic buttholes who got sick of representative democracy kayfabe. whatever, gently caress it, smoke em if you got em america.
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Jul 20, 2014 22:55
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Madcosby posted:True. this without a shred of irony
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Jul 20, 2014 22:55
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Filippo Corridoni posted:Yeah, a bunch of limp-wristed human being anarchists breaking working-class people's cars and causing the world's gayest ruckus will REALLY make america less of a hard place to live for so many - not for the goddam anarchists of course, they're all too busy living off their parent's trustfunds, gentrifying neighborhoods, and trying their hardest to be a bunch of obnoxious effeminate idiots. my thoughts exactly.
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Jul 20, 2014 22:57
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quote:It is the real life equivalent of talking real loud about your loving political opinions to impress people. Like I just want to single this out, print it off, and mount it some where so people can look at it and be like "Yes, that IS the point actually, lol".
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Jul 20, 2014 22:57
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Alberto Basalm posted:14 soldiers just got killed in militant attacks in Tunisia in my history and poli sci classes tunisia is the good revolution more ppl died in shay's rebellion
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Jul 20, 2014 22:59
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WHAT HAVE THE ROMANS EVER DONE FOR US?
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Jul 20, 2014 23:01
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Remember the bankers standing on the balcony drinking champagne and smoking cigars over looking occupy lmao
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Jul 20, 2014 23:01
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Fog Tripper posted:WHAT HAVE THE ROMANS EVER DONE FOR US? funnily enough, the romans actually took down the aquilias (aquilii?) from the temple of solomon due to jewish protests collective action... works?? *record scratch* e. of course then the next governor had em put right back up again and triggered bloody riots but eh details
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Jul 20, 2014 23:04
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paranoid randroid posted:funnily enough, the romans actually took down the aquilias (aquilii?) from the temple of solomon due to jewish protests yes but beside that, WHAT HAVE THE ROMANS EVER DONE FOR US? edit: sweet Fog Tripper fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Jul 20, 2014 |
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Jul 20, 2014 23:06
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i get the reference, bub.
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Jul 20, 2014 23:14
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peaceful protests work when the establishment sees acquiescing to them as the preferred alternative to mass riots therefore a credible threat of sustained violence is the sine qua non of peaceful revolution IMGO (in my gay opinion)
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Jul 20, 2014 23:15
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gleep gloop posted:Remember the bankers standing on the balcony drinking champagne and smoking cigars over looking occupy lmao
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Jul 20, 2014 23:16
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they succeed in shutting down traffic and making me late loving dicks. if i cared about whales or poor people or whatever the gently caress i'd already be doing something about them
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Jul 20, 2014 23:18
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Nope. I always get depressed when I see black people protesting.
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Jul 20, 2014 23:22
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During the bush admin you had protesters willing to subject themselves to public water boarding by ex special forces even under the windows of the congressional offices, that was p hardcore
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Jul 20, 2014 23:23
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Gazpacho posted:During the bush admin you had protesters willing to subject themselves to public water boarding by ex special forces even under the windows of the congressional offices, that was p hardcore im impressed by how little a gently caress the administration gave about protests. like even nixon had a long dark night of the soul where he went out to talk to protestors in the capital.
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Jul 20, 2014 23:25
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Just ask Brendan Eich.
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Jul 20, 2014 23:29
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Gazpacho posted:No, please post the ppic I can do you one better! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PiXDTK_CBY WARNING this video is actually pretty boring.
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Jul 20, 2014 23:42
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The Taint Reaper posted:The longer Occupy went on it separated into two camps you had the general filth camp and the gated camp. The gated camp was filled with angry white people looking to get stuff done and overthrow the establishment. Filth camp was all minorities and homeless and the people who were decribed as leeches and freeloaded by the people in the gated camp. This is loving beautiful. This post deserves to be in a goddam mueseum, right next to the statistic that over 90% of the occupiers were middle-class whiners from well-off families.
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Jul 20, 2014 23:54
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Give you a good day out.
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Jul 20, 2014 23:56
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Negative Entropy posted:I don't think you need to be this fatalistic. The whole point of revolution is to do that which has not been done before. Occupy tried to use methods that had been used before and that had failed. Madness is doing the same thing over and over again when it doesn't work hoping that this time it will. things have to become so much loving worse than they are now for anything resembling change. a lot of horrible situations on this planet are perfectly sustainable because the people on top have the amount of misery they can safely inflict down to a science
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Jul 20, 2014 23:56
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lol i dont think the fbi had to bring cointelpro back to deal with ows. cointelpro did poo poo like pay off people to drug radical figureheads so they could be machinegunned with minimal trouble.
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Jul 20, 2014 23:59
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occupy was nowhere near competent enough to get to that point. besides, some local pds were just gonna snipe them and skip the drugs part entirely the end of cointelpro involved such reforms as "not using the name" and "not leaving paper trails". it never, ever went away our government emerged from the scandals and soul-searching of the 1970s as a much more repressive regime
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Jul 21, 2014 00:09
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Any positive impression of occupy I might have had evaporated the first time I saw the "human megaphone" Then when chompers said he'd "never seen anything like it" that just made things worse
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Jul 21, 2014 00:11
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The occupy poo poo sucked because it was completely leaderless and directionless. It also completely rejected any help from the established authority. It's like, MLK was the de facto leader of the Black civil rights movement and he wouldn't have been successful if he told LBJ or the other white people willing to help to go suck a dick. Occupy was just a feel good circle-jerk that was more of a contest to see who could be the most insufferable leftist than it was a cohesive political movement.
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Jul 21, 2014 00:13
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Occupy Wall Street squatted public parks for weeks on end without permits and people still act like the police response needs some extraordinary explanation
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Jul 21, 2014 00:15
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it does when you have police dragging protesters into their own tents so they could be safely beaten off-camera
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Jul 21, 2014 00:18
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papa_november posted:it does when you have police dragging protesters into their own tents so they could be safely beaten off-camera i sure as poo poo hope so. im not paying those lazy poo poo pigs to keep those clubs in their holsters.
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Jul 21, 2014 00:27
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papa_november posted:it does when you have police dragging protesters into their own tents so they could be safely beaten off-camera insufferable leftists who say silly things really get my goat a lot, a ton in fact
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