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Mega64
May 23, 2008





Mother 3 has one of the most interesting developments of any game. Originally slated for the Super Famicom before switching to the Nintendo 64DD (and then the Nintendo 64 itself), it was canceled before coming back to life as a GBA game that eventually came out in Japan in 2006, around ten years or so since it started development. Though there was demand for an official translation, the game never got one. However, it did end up getting probably the highest-quality fan translation we'll likely ever see. Translated by professional translator Tomato, the game ended up getting a strong translation and localization that feels just like playing the next "Earthbound" game. This translation will be what I use to show off the game.

As for the game itself, Mother 3 is the third game of the series that most US and European gamers know as "Earthbound." The series is unique among jRPGs for its modern-day setting, quirky sense of humor, and surprisingly relatable stories. Mother 3 shifts focus from the grander "save the world" focus of the first two games to instead focus on a family and a few other individuals as they deal with certain events too spoilerish to really talk about. It's more of a personal, darker story than previous games. It's also streamlined its simple battle system to be more accessible while adding a couple features here and there. And of course it keeps the series' odd sense of humor and ramps up the weirdness in the characters and the various foes you fight. This game is certainly one-of-a-kind, and between its reputation and it being somewhat inaccessible in English-speaking countries, I definitely aim to show off just how amazing, goofy, and wonderful this game is to an audience who isn't familiar with the game.

Maple Leaf made an excellent narrative LP for the game if you want to check that out. There's also solid LP's for Mother 1 and Earthbound, including a good narrative LP.

NO SPOILERS WHATSOEVER. NO TAGS, NOTHING.

Updates will likely be once, sometimes twice a week. You can follow when I update on Twitter, and generally I don't post other stuff so I won't clog up your feeds with whatever stupid bullshit opinions I have that you disagree with.






























Mega64 fucked around with this message at Dec 14, 2014 around 14:26

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Mega64
May 23, 2008



*Exceptions can be made at my discretion.

SPOILERS: Avatars I've made from GIFs for this Let's Play. (Click the settings wheel on the top-right of the GIF area to download)
Updated 11/28/14 up to end of Chapter 2.

Fan Stuff

Variant_Eris takes the discussion of "Mother 3 is the precursor to Pokemon" to its logical conclusion.

Variant_Eris posted:



Proof that this is not, in fact, Pokemon.

Then Variant_Eris takes the epic "Stone-Sheet-Clippers" face-off to its logical extreme.

Variant_Eris posted:



Not happy with this, but whatever. It was amusing enough to make.

Mega64 fucked around with this message at Dec 4, 2014 around 22:17

Mega64
May 23, 2008













The logo itself symbolizes one of the major themes of this game, what with nature and modern technology clashing together awkwardly and all.

Also, there's 250 songs in the Sound Player. Expect lots and lots of Tindeck links, as this game's got a great soundtrack.





Like the other two games of the series, we'll start off naming a bunch of stuff. I'll use default names for this run, though this is one of those games where it's more encouraged you use names personal to you to help get more involved in the story.



If you select "Don't care" you'll get the default name for a character. Unlike Earthbound, there's only one such name per character.

The blonde boy is Lucas, who most will likely recognize from Super Smash Bros. Brawl. He's pretty timid for a protagonist, something the game likes to constantly remind you of.

When you name a character and move to the next one, you get this little sound clip that I'm sure Earthbound fans will recognize.







The other boy is Claus, who's the more adventurous and outspoken of the two. The twins' names are anagrams of each other, which is neat.







The cowboy-looking guy is Flint, which is a pretty cowboy name.



According to the Earthbound Wiki, Hinawa's name refers to a matchlock gun, with Flint's referring to a flintlock rifle.



And of course it wouldn't be a Mother game without a faithful canine companion.





Mother 3's default food and thing are a bit more intimate and personal than Earthbound's. Earthbound's favorite thing is more of a battle cry, something that fits Ness pretty well (if you ignore the whole "silent protagonist" thing), while Love better fits the timid, introverted Lucas. Omelets also seem more intimate a food than steaks, being something you're more likely to eat everyday with family to start the day. Or at least that's how I interpret it, you're perfectly welcome to tell me I'm full of poo poo on my analyses.

Unlike character names, there's various options for "Don't Care" for favorite food and things. Other food options include Pasta, Gratin, Donuts, Stew, Gelatin, and Rice, all simple staple foods. For favorite thing, there's Home Run, Mach, Top Spec, Mt. Fuji, Camera, and Watering.



Then you get to choose text speed and window color.



The color of your window can significantly affect how you react to this game's story and gameplay. Probably not, though.



And with that, let's begin!







Nowhere Islands



Tazmily Village



Beyond the Sunshine Forest



Home of Alec, Hinawa's Father







Get up so we can play! Get up, already!



Hurry up!



And now we get control of Lucas.



Due to the smaller screen size of the GBA, the menu is more streamlined from previous games. The menu has Goods, Equipment, Status, and Sleep (use the GBA's Sleep mode to put the game on standby).



We have no gear or skills yet, though that of course will change later on.







The A button will check things. No more menus/L button for that kinda stuff. I'll hold off from showing off every mundane thing at this point, though I'm sure there's lots of neat stuff to look at in our future.



Downstairs, we meet our mother.



Claus has been up for a while, playing with the Dragos.





No way!



Mother 3 may be a more serious title than Earthbound, but it still has that same offbeat humor that makes the series so charming.



Anyway, we have to change our clothes to progress in the story.





Alright, time for some fun!





Welcome to Grandpa's farm! Enjoy the nice music here.





It also wouldn't be a Mother game if we couldn't telepathically talk to animals.

These chickens will run away from you until you corner them into a wall, so it takes a bit of effort to talk to them.





And of course we've got sinister pigs because why not.



(All cows, no matter what they're thinking, go, "Moo." It'd be handy to remember that.)

And a helpful cow, to boot!



Memories are remembered with other memories, and in turn become memories themselves. If you don't take care to preserve your memories, you'll forget them. So, please tell us frogs your memories of everything so far... That is what people refer to as "saving". Now, then...







Since our dad isn't some rich executive guy that's always at work and never at home, instead we have to settle with talking to frogs to save our game. We'll manage.





Give my regards to the next frog you meet.

If we try to move south...





Gotta say, that's one of the better ways I've seen a game roadblock you from going somewhere, and that include Earthbound's literal roadblocks.



Well, today's the day you head back home. I'm gonna miss you guys.

This is Hinawa's father and the boys' grandfather, Alec.



Time to see what Claus is up to!



...Welp.





I've been play-fighting with the Dragos all morning.



Pretty sure our choice here doesn't actually change any dialogue.





Lucas still doesn't know how to ram into things yet.



And then hold that B Button for a second, then let go. Doing this will let you "dash". And by using this "dash" ability, you can ram into that Drago there! Claus! Show him an example!





Now it's your turn, Lucas! Give it a try!



That holds true for anything. Just relax!

So our first gameplay challenge of this game is to ram ourselves into a dinosaur.







Gotta say, it's kinda cool how these giant scary-looking creatures are actually very peaceful and docile and actually enjoy kids ramming into them.





We did it!













I'm gonna wipe the floor with all of you! Get in my way and you're in for a world of pain!









Our first battle!



Options are Bash (regular attack), Goods, Guard, and Run Away. Can't run from this fight, so



This game's battle system is pretty much the same as Earthbound's. The main difference is that damage pops up on the battle screen Final Fantasy-style rather than be communicated in text boxes.





The number meter is back, and works the same way as Earthbound's. If you take mortal damage, you've got time until the meter rolls to 0 to heal or end the battle, which will then stop that person from dying. A nice little system that encourages a bit of speed to fix a bad situation.



The one big difference in this game is that by timing A Button presses to the beat of the music, you can do extra damage to enemies. There's plenty of different battle themes to learn the beats to, and it can be tricky to pick up, especially on certain emulators where it doesn't work that well. But it's not a necessary trick needed to beat the game or anything, just a nice little bonus feature that gives you more damage if you learn to master it.







The Mole Cricket's nothing but a tutorial, so you pretty much have to try to lose.





So let's do so!









There's a bit of new dialogue after doing this. Since I did this in an alternate video, this is where I also found out you could ram into people.





Your ram attacks don't work on me, Lucas!



Is that all you got? You whippersnappers still have a long ways to go until you can get the best of me!

I didn't find this out until right before posting this update, but apparently you can also dash into Hinawa at the beginning.





Free bread!

And if we try to leave...



Alright, let's beat this bug up.



But you can challenge me to 100 fights and I'll still kick your butt each and every time!

Note: I didn't bother trying to lose 100 times to see if it actually affects anything.

So let's go back to the part where I kick the cricket's butt.







If you'd like, I could train you personally sometime.



I look forward to seein' you there! ...Bro.







Lunch is ready, everyone. I made you your favorite, boys. Omelets!
Ooh! Lunch, lunch! Omelets!!











It's not too tedious or troublesome, so you should talk to frogs as often as you can. Plus, saving is absolutely free.





You saved me some Omelets too, I hope?!

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Then your favorite is the same as ours? We make a good match!



We have to go through the forest to get back, so we'll need to leave early.
Don't be silly. I bet the kids could make it here on their own, it's that safe.





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quote:

Dear Flint,
Just like you said they would, the children have been running around the mountains and fields tirelessly since the moment we arrived.

Claus is as daring and full of energy as ever, while Lucas is still a bit coddled. But neither one seems tired of playing at all.

My father seems sad to say goodbye to his grandchildren after seeing them for the first time in so long, but we should be home by this evening. I had forgotten how nice and refreshing the mountain air is. You're always covered in the smell of sheep back in Tazmily Village, so I really wish you could have been here to take in this air.

The next time we visit, let's ask one of our neighbors to tend the sheep so we can all come up here as a family.

Claus, Lucas, and I were always thinking about you. When we get home this evening, I'll start cooking some of your favorite Omelets right away.

With love, your dearest Hinawa











Mega64 fucked around with this message at Aug 7, 2014 around 23:06

wokow6
Oct 19, 2013


Always liked the Mother series. Glad to be in on the ground floor for this.

Pixeltendo
Mar 2, 2012



I don't know whats weirder, the mole crickets that talk and everybody is ok with, or the frogs that display deep philosophical thinking.

Hirayuki
Mar 28, 2010


Pixeltendo posted:

I don't know whats weirder, the mole crickets that talk and everybody is ok with, or the frogs that display deep philosophical thinking.
My money's on the tame dinosaurs that like playing rough with human children.

Dragonatrix
Aug 16, 2009

You have offended STRINGIE! You must be punished!


Mother 3 is a fantastic game, though I have only played it the once. Lookin' forward to this one; I'm sure I missed plenty after all.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

i was playing as kirby and jigglypuff was the new challnger approaching and i lost the match bc i was too busy cryig and putting thhem next to each other they are so cute and pink and round


Awww yis, been waiting for a Mother 3 LP.

Let the weird poo poo commence!

masam
May 27, 2010


Prepping to enjoy the acid trip that is any one, of the mother games. I have a number of friends who only know about the series because of my slight obsession with it.

Dr. Fetus
Oct 20, 2012

Nobody loves Dr. Fetus. And that's why Dr. Fetus hates you!

Ah, I really liked this game, and the fan translators did a fantastic job on it. It's definitely a different flavor of game than Earthbound though.

Gyra_Solune
Apr 24, 2014

I wonder what is says of me that I sperg out over giant anime robots?


I never did beat this game (goddamn Steel Mechorilla) and probably missed a bunch of stuff, so yes, I am looking forward to this!

Fredrik1
Jan 22, 2005

Gopherslayer


This game is the best JRPG ever made, and if you haven't you should totally play along using the fan translation.

MachuPikacchu
Oct 15, 2012


New Mega64 LP? Hype.

And it's Mother 3? PK HYPE OMEGA.

frozentreasure
Nov 13, 2012

~



God, that fills me with dread every single time. Like knowing that things are going to go wrong and there's nothing you can do.

Also, thanks for having your screenshots be so optimised! Due to stupid fuckers using up all the Internet in my new place, I'm on barely-more-than-dial-up, yet almost every screenshot and GIF loaded completely, quite quickly.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

I am programed in multiple techniques. A broad variety of pleasuring.



I'm sorry, I'm already crying.

gatz
Oct 19, 2012



Wow, this has a great soundtrack. I will be following this.

Also, this update looks like it took a while to put together, with all the different portraits and tindeck links. From one SSLPer to another, I salute your hard work.



quote:

According to the Earthbound Wiki, Hinawa's name refers to a matchlock gun, with Flint's referring to a flintlock rifle.

I prefer thinking that it's a reference to the city of Flint, Michigan.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Shakin' it at 2345 cm-1.


This game looks great. The music sounds great.

Those gifs are great, please keep doing that.

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

and then we'll have pancakes to celebrate and I'll be like EURGNOMEHREUGN.



sweet a new Mega64 LP, and another Mother 3 LP at that. Maybe this one will go to completion

Mega64
May 23, 2008



frozentreasure posted:

Also, thanks for having your screenshots be so optimised! Due to stupid fuckers using up all the Internet in my new place, I'm on barely-more-than-dial-up, yet almost every screenshot and GIF loaded completely, quite quickly.

Part of that is GBA pics being so nice and small in the first place, though OptiPNG still crushed half a MB off the size. Total size of that update was 1.46MB, though that doesn't include a ton of screenshots which I transcribed dialogue from, and of course most of that was GIFs. Might as well be as efficient as I can with size though.

gatz posted:

Also, this update looks like it took a while to put together, with all the different portraits and tindeck links. From one SSLPer to another, I salute your hard work.

Yeah, considering the 250 songs from a soundtrack I'm not nearly as familiar with (only played through this game once) and a huge variety of NPCs (many of the generic ones are named to boot), there's been a lot more uploading than the usual LP.

frozentreasure
Nov 13, 2012

~


Mega64 posted:

(only played through this game once)

Don't forget to talk to everyone each time you return to town through the game, if you aren't aware. I'll talk more about it when we get there.

ArcadePark
Feb 4, 2011

Damn it, It's all your fault!

The Mother series always had a three-word catchphrase: Strange, Funny, Heartrending.



If Mother 2/Earthbound was closer to the first two words, this game is closer to that last word.



Let's get this started

Yapping Eevee
Nov 12, 2011



Oh boy, I've always wanted to see a full LP of this. Here's hoping this one actually gets there!

I'm also going to have to tell Leave that the very first update used . Good on ya, Mega.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Shakin' it at 2345 cm-1.


Yapping Eevee posted:

I'm also going to have to tell Leave that the very first update used . Good on ya, Mega.

I miss that guy and his LPs. Good to hear there's people who kept in touch with him.

How Ingratiating!
Sep 7, 2011



I played through this game in Japanese years ago, before the fan translation was completed, so I could improve my Japanese skills. And to play the sequel to the game I played ten million times, of course.

Looking forward to the LP.

Grimwit
Nov 3, 2012

Those eyes! That hair! You're like a movie star! I must take your picture!

I have no idea what I'm in store for, but oh lordy, this looks fun!

Of course I've played Earthbound (Mother2) and some of Mother 1 on Emulator.
Everything I know about Mother3 from Clan Of the Grey Wolf's history episode.

curiousCat
Sep 23, 2012

Did she pull a Ffoxface, or is she just stealthed?


Very excited for this.

Inriri
Apr 25, 2014


While my mother doesn't play that many games barring anything on the NES and Animal Crossin), I can happily say Mother 3 was a game that she spent an entire week playing through completion. Definitely a game that can proudly say it has a wide appeal.

I really hope you gif the hell out of this, since Mother 3's animations are top notch. There's two scenes I can think of specifically that show it off the most.

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

Did my posting make you horny? Did it? Did it make you randy? Oh behave!


This game does a lot to improve Earthbound's combat, but it's really frustrating how slooooowly the game's opening goes. It does discourage grinding, which I imagine is part of the point, but you have a couple chapters before you really have a party together and are exploring relatively freely. Once it gets going it gets going really good though.

On a keyboard, I never could get the timed hits right...sorta wish this game gets a VC port to the Wii U sometime soon.

Supersonic Shine
Oct 13, 2012


Is this why you only sorta wish Mother 3 gets a port?

DialTheDude
Jan 12, 2014

You don't have a phone?


Gosh, just listening to this track makes me want to play this game again.

MegaZeroX
Dec 11, 2013

"I'm Jack Frost, ho! Nice to meet ya, hee ho!"



Oh man, this game's soundtrack. I feel like every track in this game is going to be quoted like this by the end of the game. Let's see if my prediction is right!

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

I stabbed you dude!

A massive amount of chopped onions just appeared in my living room.

How Rude
Aug 13, 2012

Kirby, no. Please stop.


I liked Earthbound's lighthearted feel more thank Mother 3's constant making GBS threads on the protagonist. Part of the reason I love Earthbound so much is that it is mostly upbeat and hopeful, while Mother 3 will just be a huge soppy fest from beginning to end and it doesn't ever seem to get better.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

: Okay.
: Thank you very much!


How Rude posted:

I liked Earthbound's lighthearted feel more thank Mother 3's constant making GBS threads on the protagonist. Part of the reason I love Earthbound so much is that it is mostly upbeat and hopeful, while Mother 3 will just be a huge soppy fest from beginning to end and it doesn't ever seem to get better.

This is the reason Doug Dinsdale doesn't like Mother 3 that much; it piles on the sadness so much that it's pretty offputting to the people who loved Earthbound for it's upbeat tone.

How Ingratiating!
Sep 7, 2011



Mega64, I just now noticed you're using the remastered version of the soundtrack. Most excellent! For those who don't know, I mean he's using a version where somebody took the ROM, extracted all the sounds as MIDIs, plus a separate soundfont file from the game, and converted them to MP3s, thus avoiding GBA static clouding the tracks. There's actually a couple more steps than that to this kind of conversion, but hey. Lots of GBA music sounds amazing in converted MIDI form compared to what the GBA does to it. (link leads to a comparison video)

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead.


ChaosArgate posted:

This is the reason Doug Dinsdale doesn't like Mother 3 that much; it piles on the sadness so much that it's pretty offputting to the people who loved Earthbound for it's upbeat tone.
They should have went further with the tears. It was like the grimdark writer was mostly in control and during his break, the one who knows about the other games, and lighten the mood.

Bellmaker
Oct 18, 2008



Scalding Coffee posted:

They should have went further with the tears. It was like the grimdark writer was mostly in control and during his break, the one who knows about the other games, and lighten the mood.

That's because during his "break" he was working on Magical Starsign
(which is Earthbound+Phantasy Star and you should play it)

I've played Earthbound but I haven't played this. From what I've heard that's pretty shameful on my part, so I'll definitely be following along.

Lord_Ventnor
Mar 30, 2010

The Worldwide Deadly Gangster Communist President


I've heard the internet gushing over this game a lot. I suppose I'll get to see why that is now.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

ENEMY SCANNED!
IT'S A SQUIRREL YOU SHITHEAD!


By sheer dumb luck I just happen to look around and find this today. And krakentoot gets used immediately. I most definitely approve. I've never been able to sit down and play through this one, so I'm looking forward to it.

e: Just because it's my favorite emote that doesn't exist, I'll just toss this in here as well:

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Mega64
May 23, 2008



Mother 3 isn't all dark and depressing. It's still pretty goofy and light-hearted a lot of the time too! I'd agree that I prefer the more upbeat Earthbound myself, though another small reason I'm doing this LP is to see if I may end up liking this game more in the end since there were a few things in this game that really impressed me, including one thing I think this game did the best out of any game I've ever played. But more on that when I get to it.

How Ingratiating! posted:

Mega64, I just now noticed you're using the remastered version of the soundtrack. Most excellent! For those who don't know, I mean he's using a version where somebody took the ROM, extracted all the sounds as MIDIs, plus a separate soundfont file from the game, and converted them to MP3s, thus avoiding GBA static clouding the tracks. There's actually a couple more steps than that to this kind of conversion, but hey. Lots of GBA music sounds amazing in converted MIDI form compared to what the GBA does to it. (link leads to a comparison video)

It definitely sounds nicer than the audio in the GBA version, and I appreciate all the work that went into it, so I might as well show it off. There's also a ton of such audio included, from all 250 tracks in the Sound Player to ambient tracks to unusued tracks and a lot more. I'll try to show off as much of it as I can.

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