[Mafia] True Detective

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Snooze Cruise: Feb 16, 2013; hey look,
a post

wait guys give me a few posts
i can tell if merk is scum or not

hey merk are you scum?

# ? Jul 22, 2014 00:16

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# ? Apr 26, 2024 07:59

Grandicap: Feb 8, 2006

I find the merk wagon suspect (is it a wagon if it is only 2 people + CPig who since bailed on it). I think it is way more likely that scum are jumping on a perceived opportunity to get a strong player lynched d1.

I think the scum is a mushroom.

##vote LCV

# ? Jul 22, 2014 00:46

Bigup DJ: Nov 8, 2012

poo poo here I am ##vote cpaitalism pig

# ? Jul 22, 2014 00:46

girl dick energy: Sep 30, 2009; You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Bigup DJ posted:

poo poo here I am ##vote cpaitalism pig

Can I ask how you justify the idea of a scum with a dayvig?

merk posted:

Although I disagree that I'm trying beyond even the slightest bit, why is "trying too hard" scummy?

Trying too hard to fit in and look productive, to produce a solid case when there isn't really much room for anything but gut reads yet.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 00:52

Bigup DJ: Nov 8, 2012

how did I vote bigup dj??

# ? Jul 22, 2014 00:52

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

Poison Mushroom posted:

Can I ask how you justify the idea of a scum with a dayvig?

Seen it before. Play enough games and you've seen everything. Don't fall into the trap of clearing people because of your assumptions about the setup.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 00:53

Grandicap: Feb 8, 2006

Bigup DJ posted:

how did I vote bigup dj??

cpaitalism pig isn't a player name, and someone set it to alias to you. You can clear the alias in votefinder if you login. Or you can just revote and spell good this time.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 00:55

Bigup DJ: Nov 8, 2012

Grandicap posted:

cpaitalism pig isn't a player name, and someone set it to alias to you. You can clear the alias in votefinder if you login. Or you can just revote and spell good this time.

is this your idea of a loving joke?

# ? Jul 22, 2014 00:56

Poque: Sep 11, 2003; =^-^=

Grandicap posted:

I think the scum is a mushroom.

##vote LCV

I was thinking the same thing, I didn't like the back-to-back posts even without the phony-seeming pause in the middle to think it over.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 00:57

Grandicap: Feb 8, 2006

Bigup DJ posted:

is this your idea of a loving joke?

Nope, probably Pig's idea of a joke. I am just telling you how to fix it.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 01:02

CapitalistPig: Nov 3, 2005; A Winner is you!

Grandicap posted:

Nope, probably Pig's idea of a joke. I am just telling you how to fix it.

Hey don't blame me, I'd never stoop so low.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 01:12

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

Bigup DJ posted:

is this your idea of a loving joke?

Someone seems a little upset about the whole thing.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 01:13

girl dick energy: Sep 30, 2009; You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Bigup DJ posted:

is this your idea of a loving joke?

It seemed a pretty chaste joke to me.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 01:28

Bigup DJ: Nov 8, 2012

Poison Mushroom posted:

It seemed a pretty chaste joke to me.

i'll gently caress you up poison mushroom - don't even THINK about messing with me

# ? Jul 22, 2014 01:31

CapitalistPig: Nov 3, 2005; A Winner is you!

Poison Mushroom posted:

It seemed a pretty chaste joke to me.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 01:32

Poque: Sep 11, 2003; =^-^=

Bigup DJ posted:

i'll gently caress you up poison mushroom - don't even THINK about messing with me

# ? Jul 22, 2014 01:46

CapitalistPig: Nov 3, 2005; A Winner is you!

I kind of think it's funny when big up is all aggressive like this.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 01:48

merk: May 20, 2003; ##interact

Poison Mushroom posted:

Can I ask how you justify the idea of a scum with a dayvig?

Trying too hard to fit in and look productive, to produce a solid case when there isn't really much room for anything but gut reads yet.

I have a legitimate case based on more than a gut read. Analyzing games under the predisposition that you can't make real cases until some temporal objective has passed is weak sauce.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 02:27

merk: May 20, 2003; ##interact

mr.capps posted:

wait guys give me a few posts
i can tell if merk is scum or not

hey merk are you scum?

no friend

# ? Jul 22, 2014 02:27

Snooze Cruise: Feb 16, 2013; hey look,
a post

merk posted:

no friend

I dunno guys merk doesn't seem scum to me.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 02:42

Meinberg: Oct 9, 2011; inspired by but legally distinct from CATS (2019)

mr.capps posted:

I dunno guys merk doesn't seem scum to me.

But what if he actually was scum?

# ? Jul 22, 2014 03:31

votefinder: Jul 6, 2010; scoop scoop

Votecount for Day 1

Juanito (2): merk, CapitalistPig

merk (2): CapitalistPig, ~~CapitalistPig~~, Meinberg, Poison Mushroom

Bigup DJ (1): Bigup DJ

Poque (1): JakeP

Poison Mushroom (1): Grandicap

Not Voting (6): DGK2000, Hal Incandenza, Juanito, mr.capps, Pander, Poque

With 13 alive, it's 7 votes to lynch. The current deadline is July 23^rd, 2014 at 9 p.m. MDT -- that's in about 1 day, 23 hours.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 04:36

girl dick energy: Sep 30, 2009; You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Meinberg posted:

But what if he actually was scum?

Would anyone really do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?

# ? Jul 22, 2014 07:45

Bigup DJ: Nov 8, 2012

Poison Mushroom posted:

Would anyone really do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?

yeah poison mushroom, would they?? maybe you can enlighten us...

# ? Jul 22, 2014 08:23

Juanito: Jan 20, 2004; I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?; Hell Gem

merk posted:

There is no frustration, outrage, or any negative reaction to what you did emotionally for me. I think you're scum for it. It's that simple.

When I made my vote, I just had an inkling that what you did was scummy. Your reactions, however, sealed the deal. You have completely disregarded what the Op says about not revealing masonry to try to justify your initial position. You reacted rather than tried to think about the situation critically. It looks fake. It looks like you're scum.

Oh yeah, no negative reaction. :rolleyes:

except for the part where you decide I'm scum, and..

merk posted:

Yeah, I'm voting Juanito until he or I is removed from the game. See you in a few days.

That's a positive, very town way to play, merk. Too bad your "big baby gambit" failed and you had to show up and post some more after people reacted negatively to you, instead of jumping on your weak attempted bandwagon on me.

merk posted:

I don't know how to do nested quotes for the last post. Read that in context. Look at his reaction to my initial vote. He has no idea why he outed his mason partner. There is no critical thought into what is happening. He's scrambling to try to explain away what he just did and my vote with it.

That is how scum play. That is the fake content you would expect from a scum player.

Really? That's how scum plays? Wrong. Scum doesn't usually reveal things like that. You said it, "no critical thought into what is happening" .. is that a scum way to play? No. Scum is careful about their responses and what they say/reveal, which obviously isn't how I'm playing.

and "I'm scrambling to explain away" -- huh? I haven't had to scramble to explain anything. I've made it clear I claimed because I didn't care. You've had to scramble to make a case on me, and pretend it most certainly means that I'm scum, even though you know that it doesn't, at all.

##vote merk

# ? Jul 22, 2014 14:23

merk: May 20, 2003; ##interact

You said you claimed because you were no longer concerned about your mason, not because you didn't care. You're also pulling out whatever negative words you can to explain away my vote.

What are we doing here, folks? This dude is scum.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 14:49

JakeP: Apr 27, 2003; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS; Lipstick Apathy

eh im not convinced

last time I saw a merk ultimatum opop got a merk scum bingo

# ? Jul 22, 2014 15:05

Juanito: Jan 20, 2004; I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?; Hell Gem

merk posted:

You said you claimed because you were no longer concerned about your mason, not because you didn't care. You're also pulling out whatever negative words you can to explain away my vote.

What are we doing here, folks? This dude is scum.

You got me there.

"you said you claimed because you were no longer concerned about your mason not because you didn't care"

great case, merk :jerkbag:

# ? Jul 22, 2014 15:21

girl dick energy: Sep 30, 2009; You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Gotta admit this is entertaining, though.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 16:57

merk: May 20, 2003; ##interact

JakeP posted:

eh im not convinced

last time I saw a merk ultimatum opop got a merk scum bingo

Go back and read Juanito and then read my case.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 16:58

Poque: Sep 11, 2003; =^-^=

Poison Mushroom posted:

Gotta admit this is entertaining, though.

you seem very content to just sit back, snipe, and let this happen. ##vote mushroom

# ? Jul 22, 2014 17:05

JakeP: Apr 27, 2003; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS; Lipstick Apathy

merk posted:

Go back and read Juanito and then read my case.

I just reread juanito and I do actually get a scummy vibe from him, but not for the reasons that you jumped on him for initially, and most of the posting that made me think he was scummy came after your ultimatum, so I wonder if this is an aggressive bus?

my mafia MMR is pretty low so I am prolly wrong

# ? Jul 22, 2014 17:14

merk: May 20, 2003; ##interact

Let me carry you through this game. Hop on my shoulders.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 17:20

JakeP: Apr 27, 2003; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS; Lipstick Apathy

Make Soru add ranked matches to votefinder so there is more drama from terrible setups and players

# ? Jul 22, 2014 17:22

girl dick energy: Sep 30, 2009; You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Poque posted:

you seem very content to just sit back, snipe, and let this happen. ##vote mushroom

I already used my vote to express my feelings, though? v :v:

# ? Jul 22, 2014 19:30

Pander: Oct 9, 2007; Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.

##vote juanito

Playing a scum game. You made a bunch of nonsensical moves early trying to seem real casually engaged, double down on whatever defenses are within grasping distance when you ping people, try to make a real-sounding OMGUS to engage in what would hopefully be viewed as a slapfight with the biggest opponent...it's essentially the laundry list of what should have got me lynched in the last game I played.

Poison Mushroom posted:

Confirm.

Just caught up. I'm torn, because this behavior from CPig feels really scummy, but giving a Scum vig powers seems incredibly unbalanced. I have to assume he's town, just because the alternative is terrifying.

The Juanito/merk slapfight isn't looking good for either side, but I'm kind of used to this behavior from merk. Sitting on my vote for now.

Also agree with poque, mushroom's been scummy. Provides a waffle on cpig without saying anything, attempts to dismiss merk/juanito as a slapfight almost immediately, and says he doesn't want to move his vote despite the fact he didn't have a vote on anyone at that time.

# ? Jul 23, 2014 00:09

Juanito: Jan 20, 2004; I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?; Hell Gem

Whatever. Pander, you know I'm not scum, and you won't be surprised when I flip town. But I understand you siding with merk. No surprise there.

# ? Jul 23, 2014 00:15

JakeP: Apr 27, 2003; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS; Lipstick Apathy

Why does Pander know you aren't scum

# ? Jul 23, 2014 00:32

girl dick energy: Sep 30, 2009; You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Sorry I haven't been super-attentive, been doing a lot of phoneposting the last couple days because my modem was being a poo poo. Now that I'm not typing with a lovely touch keyboard, let me elaborate on my feelings in more detail, if only to get a bit of information out there before I'm lynched D1/D2 again.

Juanito: Juanito is taking merk's case and voting of him very personally, and this post continues the trend of raising the same red flags as well. This all despite that he's only at -4, more than a day from deadline. I don't like how he bent over backwards to constantly remind us that his " :siren:

mason partner :siren:

" went killing. Maybe I'd believe it if he'd said something like "confirmed mason partner", but just being masons is absolutely nothing of note in this game. Together, it all stinks of false outrage, pretending to be upset about this horrible unfair behavior he's been getting, while actually contributing nothing but an OMGUS.

Would vote.

merk: While Juanito is being hyper-defensive, merk is being hyper-aggressive. Or rather, that was the read I was getting when I was posting from my phone last night. On a re-read, I still feel he's being quite aggressive, but my conviction is less absolute now. It's not enough to make me unvote him, but it's enough to make me question if he's the only one playing into this.

In fact, the more I think about it, the more I'm getting a feeling like this "slap fight", as I called it, is entirely artificial distancing between two scumbros. Just because Juanito's mason is a CPigDVig (which I'm still 90% sure makes him town), that doesn't mean he couldn't also coordinate through the good old-fashioned scumdoc.

Smaller thoughts: I'm liking Pander's hunting so far, Poque's case has been very "me too", and I'm not sure I buy BigUp's "look how wacky and non-serious I am!" act.

# ? Jul 23, 2014 00:35

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# ? Apr 26, 2024 07:59

Pander: Oct 9, 2007; Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.

Juanito posted:

Whatever. Pander, you know I'm not scum, and you won't be surprised when I flip town. But I understand you siding with merk. No surprise there.

Why do I know you're not scum?

# ? Jul 23, 2014 00:39

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