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This is such a first world problem, but the fact that lifetime.com has the "Designer Exit Interview" thumbnail right next to the "Full Episode" thumbnail really grinds my gears. I can't not be spoiled when I nerd out at midnight on a Friday after a night out.
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Aug 9, 2014 08:14
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This show has totally lost it's way. The judge choices thus far are awful.
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Aug 10, 2014 06:18
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Maybe the judges like Sandhya because after thirteen seasons they're bored to death and even if her looks are confusing and weird, at least they're visually interesting and different? The sewing on that raincoat-hat ensemble was so, so bad. Angela should have stayed. I feel for the girl, she clearly has an anxiety disorder. Her outfit was better than the other two. Oh well.
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Aug 10, 2014 06:29
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The first time she won I think their internal poll said 87% of fans hated her outfit. Not much different this time. They've poo poo on so many people for making crafty pieces and she is the queen of craft.
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Aug 10, 2014 06:37
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Oh boy, what a horrible episode! I can't wait to go onto TLo and read more about the crack-smoking ju-Tom and Lorenzo posted:So congratulations once again to Sandhya, who is certain to become even more hated by her fellow designers after this one. 
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Propaganda Machine posted:Oh boy, what a horrible episode! I can't wait to go onto TLo and read more about the crack-smoking ju- I've really gone off TLo the last couple of years. They're getting awfully full of themselves as masters of an empire that consists mostly of a blog, which in turn consists mostly of reposted photos with the word "discuss" underneath. They had a post last week (maybe the project runway one, but definitely one very close to it in time) where they prepared this wordy statement on some issue, completely unprompted, and were like "you can quote us on this." Like guys. You have roughly the same level of exposure and access as Tavi Gevinson in middle school. Reel it in a little. All this to say I think their Project Runway reviews of late are less about their genuine responses to the work and more about what they think will position them as fashion insiders.
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Aug 10, 2014 10:37
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Sandhya is like a neo-Patricia from S11, down to the first episode awful dye-job win. I kinda call bullshit on the current-day designs argument, Emily/Samantha/...Fade maybe? were my top designs out of that episode and I don't think you can use the current-day argument on any of them. Plus it seems like the instructions were to straight-up avoid going super-futuristic. How many challenges could you make this video for?
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Aug 10, 2014 10:40
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:All this to say I think their Project Runway reviews of late are less about their genuine responses to the work and more about what they think will position them as fashion insiders. It really doesn't help that they, by their own admission, have become super tired of the Project Runway "brand". I can remember a time when every single gown would get a separate post and discussion. These days, they often can't muster up more than a single "meh". I understand that's in part the shows fault. All these ill-conceived one day challenges often don't lead to interesting results. And I know it's hard to keep motivated after 12+ seasons. Still, it's a shame.
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I also don't think 'DEPARTMENT STORE UGH!' is a valid criticism. The entire point of department stores is to have a huge, classy-ish range and, depending on what tier of department store we're talking about, lots of reputable designers either have product lines or showrooms going on. It's like they expect every contestant to be Christian Siriano or Alexander McQueen.
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Propaganda Machine posted:I also don't think 'DEPARTMENT STORE UGH!' is a valid criticism. The entire point of department stores is to have a huge, classy-ish range and, depending on what tier of department store we're talking about, lots of reputable designers either have product lines or showrooms going on. It's like they expect every contestant to be Christian Siriano or Alexander McQueen. Yeah, although I do think a big part of why the designs were so boring is the designers don't think Marie Claire is a high-fashion magazine and don't respect its customer. Over all the seasons, any time the designers think they're designing for a middle-America customer they churn out lazy crap. It didn't help that the design brief was muddled. Yes there are retro cycles in fashion and yes there will undoubtedly be some elements of 90s fashion in the 2030s (I'm guessing the shrunken crop-top/giant pants silhouette will come back time and again over the next century as much as I personally hate it), but taking a look from today and figuring out what the retro version of it will be is a lot clearer and could have produced more interesting results. I do look forward to seeing what the next generation's version of this era's fashions are - drapey tops with leggings, macro prints, embellished bodysuits, the whole Anthropologie a-billion-layers-piled-atop-a-twee-little-schoolgirl-skirt thing, and the thing with very square, sheer blouses with no darting and heavy moto jackets will probably all inspire the next generation's "turn of the century" retro. I would have loved to see the designers work through the thought process of like "okay, what pieces are likely to make it to thrift shops and survive? What's accessible for teenagers to repurpose as streetwear?" But this show actually tries to avoid real fashion design questions as much as possible.
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Aug 10, 2014 18:26
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Right? Making a couture gown for a red carpet event out of bubble wrap and duct tape is way more interesting than having two days to make sure your silk organza doesn't pucker.
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Aug 10, 2014 18:59
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I think that the word "editorial" has replaced the word "costumey" this season.
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Aug 12, 2014 22:37
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  No? Just me? Okay. edit: Also, I thought Tom and Lorenzo were way off. PR showed the designers pictures of them from 20 years ago, and guess what? They weren't wearing anything all that different from today! How the hell an alternate costume from Moonraker won is beyond me, even if the model wasn't made up like der Furher. hey girl you up fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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Aug 13, 2014 02:08
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I was extremely disappointed with this episode all around. The idea of a future challenge has endless possibilities but most of the designers really didn't meet my expectations.
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Aug 13, 2014 17:55
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Not Today Satan posted:I was extremely disappointed with this episode all around. The idea of a future challenge has endless possibilities but most of the designers really didn't meet my expectations. That's true but I also felt this challenge suffered from having too many elements that the designers got confused. A better challenge would have just been to design a modern look based on what the designers wore 20 years ago, or a challenge where they have to make a future look based on where fashion is going. Forcing a 40 year time gap as the 'twist' for this episode didn't really work for me. Also 1994 was in the middle of the grunge era in fashion, so it was annoying hearing the judges complain about how dark and black some peoples vision of the future was. You didn't ask the designers to just design for the future, you asked the to draw inspiration from the past. Huge difference.
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Yeah, the 1994 stuff was cute but REALLY seemed to wreck the entire future-themed stuff. Definitely needed a Tim Gunn "What the hell are you all designing?" invention like they've occasionally had to do in seasons past. Sandhya's work is all over the place, but at least it pop on the runway. A lot of disappointing looks are going to make for a disappointing season.
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King of Foolians posted:That's true but I also felt this challenge suffered from having too many elements that the designers got confused. A better challenge would have just been to design a modern look based on what the designers wore 20 years ago, or a challenge where they have to make a future look based on where fashion is going. Forcing a 40 year time gap as the 'twist' for this episode didn't really work for me. Also 1994 was in the middle of the grunge era in fashion, so it was annoying hearing the judges complain about how dark and black some peoples vision of the future was. You didn't ask the designers to just design for the future, you asked the to draw inspiration from the past. Huge difference. I fully agree with you. It's almost like the scope was just too broad and left too many openings for a mess on the runway. It's still pretty early on in the competition and I look forward to when it gets down to just 6 or 7 designers. I'm really looking forward to tonight's episode though.
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Hey Amanda did more fringe and the judges loved it. Cool. Also Hernan's dress was absolutely horrible.
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Kini was fuckin robbed Hernan needed to go last week so this is fine, but once again some of the horseshit they waved through with a pass is baffling.
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I hated the proportions on Kini's skirt but he was the only designer to listen to the "inspired by the suit" part of the brief.
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Aug 15, 2014 10:31
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I actually like the beige deconstructed top and skirt. It looked different from everything else up there but very wearable and chic. I guess I have poo poo for taste.
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I have been sans internet and TV for 5 days! Recap coming late today along with opinions on things that I missed
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I'm sorry, but I can't take anything seriously from that guest judge since she wasn't in her baby Mickey Mouse sweater dress. And I agree, Kini was so robbed. That outfit was loving boss and it loses to... fringe. Ugh.
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Fäde's whole outfit was really great, and looked a whole lot better than Amanda's dress, which really felt like "more of the same" coming from her. He really shouldn't be underestimated. While he's not ended up in the top so far, his output has been of reliable quality. The insect look from the unconventional materials challenge was probably the worst, but even that was well constructed. And I'll say it. I thought Sandhya's skirt looked really cool.
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Liked Fade and Sean's stuff (again), hated Amanda's. As usual, I'm 180degrees opposite the judges.
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Kekekela posted:Liked Fade and Sean's stuff (again), hated Amanda's. As usual, I'm 180degrees opposite the judges. I'm genuinely curious... are there large numbers of people who DO agree with the judges? This is one of the most-watched reality shows among people I know and I can't think of a single person who agrees with the judges' decisions often or sees the winners they choose as anything but producer fuckery. Since the producers are so transparently manipulating things to appeal to the audience, who IS that audience?
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Kini was robbed, Fade deserved a solid #2, I really liked Emily's plaid thing too. Re: the preview for next week who do you guys think the indecent exposure thing was about? I'm kinda nervous for Fade since he had a reaction shot, but he's been nailing it so far
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Power of Pecota posted:Kini was robbed, Fade deserved a solid #2, I really liked Emily's plaid thing too. I really didn't love anyone's today (but I'd give the win to Fade probably, even despite my critique). I thought the bottom two who were not eliminated were nowhere near Hernan's; he deserved to go. I think Sean should have found a way to embrace his corduroy, though. It could have been really dramatic. I liked Emily's dress/pants, but Seth Aaron was one of my favorite designers in the history of the show, so I might be biased. Tiny Brontosaurus posted:I hated the proportions on Kini's skirt but he was the only designer to listen to the "inspired by the suit" part of the brief. I disagree. As a dude, Samantha's dress screamed "tuxedo" to me with the shoulder, pocket, and satin stripe accents. She didn't deserve the win, but it was definitely inspired by her suit.
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I love that that loving Red Robin guy advertised putting pineapple or an egg on a burger or a *gasp* veggie burger as examples of their cutting edge culinary perspective.
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This was a good idea for a challenge. It's not menswear, but inspired by. Everyone gets the same amount of material, and they are all different colors, textiles and even some patterns. It's entertaining to see the goofier ones turned completely around. Top Winner Amanda  Why? The fringe just sorta starts halfway down. It's another hippy, 90's throwback and if it were just deemed safe I get it, but winner? No. Kini  Well done! Alexander  Lovely. The Middle Fade  It's Chanel Spring 14 couture (which would have been seen by him before filming the show) but made in grey. Look 2, 3, 8 especially. Korina  She is really into the belt being woven into the garment. Samantha  It's truly inspired by the tuxedo it came from. There are nice little touches and I like it, but there's still nothing exciting about it. Char  Get that bow off your skirt tout de suite! Emily  Not a fan of the high waisted skirt / short pant combo Sandhya  What the What? Mitchell  Oh hell naw! The styling is even more puzzling than the skirt shape Bottom Kristine  Just make a riding pant, don't slap on organza mud flaps! Sean  Sadly the new top was an improvement, the colors he chose were all wrong. Out Herman  I haven't liked anything he's done thus far so I was not sad to see him go. This was awful. It was beige, you can find a ton of colors that coordinate with beige. Get those in actual fabrics! It's like a road map for where pervs should look at her - boobies! … cooch! From the preview: DOUBLE ELIMINATION 
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Ima Giraffe posted:Fade  Huh. Yup, that's their dress. I wonder if they wagged their finger at him behind the scenes but thought it wasn't worth screen time. Ima Giraffe posted:From the preview: DOUBLE ELIMINATION
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I think the make up really sucks this season. It's really dull and I don't think it is the fault of the designers. Maybe I'm just hating everything about this season... I'm annoyed by the lack of screen time for the other designers. They spend so much time on Amanda and Sandhya I don't even know who some of the other people are. It seems like the producers are really trying to stir up as much drama as possible this season. Having Sandhya pick the suits for the designers was just so obvious. I don't think they've ever done anything quite like that before. And this season I don't think they've had a "real" guest judge yet...just a bunch of bloggers? Anyway, I'll probably watch until the day I die and bitch up until that point. I enjoy watching the designers despite all of the bullshit.
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This is completely random but does it bother anyone else as it bothers me when the designers don't match their blacks? I loved Alexander's look but it kinda bothered me that the black tones and textures in his skirt didn't really match the top. While I liked Amanda's dress I really preferred some of the other contestants designs more. I also really wish these designers would stop trying to make the drop crotch happen because it looks stupid imo.
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Panties posted:And this season I don't think they've had a "real" guest judge yet...just a bunch of bloggers? I think Julie Bowen was the guest judge in the first episode.
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Panties posted:And this season I don't think they've had a "real" guest judge yet...just a bunch of bloggers? "youtube sensation" Blah Blah. When I saw this I just panicked asking "Am I old? I don't know this person. Are they on Disney?" Turns out her credits are a bunch of youtube videos, mentions in Teen Vogue and "lines" with JC Penny and Forever 21. She's really on the vanguard of fashion  .
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Not Today Satan posted:This is completely random but does it bother anyone else as it bothers me when the designers don't match their blacks? I loved Alexander's look but it kinda bothered me that the black tones and textures in his skirt didn't really match the top. I think that might be partly a problem of the TV lighting. Definitely something I'd like to think I'd learn to compensate for before auditioning for PR, but it's probably really hard to tell in the workroom if two different fabrics are going to look like the same shade of black on the runway. Ima Giraffe posted:"youtube sensation" Blah Blah. When I saw this I just panicked asking "Am I old? I don't know this person. Are they on Disney?" Which is bizarre because, do teens even watch this show? I thought the demo was pretty solidly 25+
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Winner spoiled for this week's challenge: such come back
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