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Dusty Baker 2
Jul 8, 2011

Keyboard Inghimasi
Plane crashes are lovely, scary things. Post about 'em here. I'll start off with a few that have stuck with me.


Japan Airlines Flight 123 was a 747 that suffered a tail-strike on landing and subsequently was not repaired properly. During a later flight, an explosive decompression took place, destroying the connections to all the flight controls. The pilots managed to fly the aircraft using nothing but engine thrust control for 32 minutes before the plane crashed, killing all but 4 of the passengers. This crash and another similar one led to the implementation of new systems in airliners that help pilots compensate for total flight surface failure with the engines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_123

Lauda Air Flight 004 was a 767 that crashed after the reverser (reverse-thrust to slow the plane on landing) on one of the engines deployed in flight, ripping the aircraft apart.

quote:

At 23:17, the thrust reverser on the number 1 engine deployed while the plane was over mountainous jungle terrain in the border area between Suphanburi and Uthai Thani provinces in Thailand. Thurner's last recorded words were, "Oh, reverser's deployed!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauda_Air_Flight_004

British Airways Flight 5390 actually didn't crash, but it's still ridiculous. A manufacturing defect caused a cockpit window to blow out mid-flight, sucking the pilot almost all the way out of the plane and plastering him against the nose. The copilot grabbed onto the pilot's belt to hold him from getting sucked out and managed to make an emergency landing. Other than frostbite, several fractures and some scratches, the pilot was okay.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_5390

Air France Flight 447 was an A-330 that disappeared over the Pacific Ocean back in 2009. Most of the wreckage has never been located. The cause of the crash was determined to be a combination of factors. The weather radar on the plane was unable to detect a rather large storm in the path of the flight. It did, however, detect another, smaller storm in the flight path. Unfortunately, that smaller storm blocked the system from detecting the larger, more severe storm. The pitot tube, a small hollow device to gauge aircraft speed, also froze up. Pitot tubes have intense heating devices in them to prevent ice formation. However, the storm created a strange circumstance in which water was cooled to around -30 degrees Fahrenheit. When the water got some air in it/contacted the pitot tube, it immediately froze, blocking the flow of air. The autopilot freaked the gently caress out and the engines were throttled down to idle. The pilots were working frantically to correct the dozens of alarms and warning lights going off all of a sudden, and failed to notice that the aircraft was now falling straight down, parallel to the ocean. The belly impacted the ocean and the aircraft disintegrated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447

A Learjet carrying golfer Payne Stewart was flying over Florida when, for whatever reason, it suffered a decompression. The pilots were unable to get on oxygen fast enough and passed out due to oxygen deprivation. When the aircraft failed to make a scheduled turn or respond to any calls from ATC, a pair of fighter jets in the area were dispatched to investigate. The pilots reported the cabin of the Learjet to be completely dark and condensation/ice on the inside of the cockpit windows. The aircraft continued on until the it ran out of gas and crashed nose-first into a field in South Dakota.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash


And my personal favorite: a small commuter plane operated by Filair, was flying over the DRC when, for reasons unknown, it crashed into the mountains. It is suspected that the crash was caused by a crocodile which was being smuggled in a duffel bag. The crocodile escaped the bag and the passengers panicked, running toward the nose of the aircraft. The sudden shift in weight in the small plane caused it to lose control and crash. All aboard died, except the crocodile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Bandundu_Filair_Let_L-410_crash


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MMOs & Welfare
Jan 24, 2007

by Lowtax
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Air_Lines_Flight_401

This one's a little older but the story behind it is chilling. Basically, this plane is flying over the Florida Everglades when an indicator light goes out. While they are working on it in the cabin, one of the crew accidentally disables the autopilot without noticing. They continue working on it, oblivious to what is going on, until exactly five seconds before the plane impacts the swamp.

CVR Transcript (skip to the end):

http://aviation-safety.net/investigation/cvr/transcripts/cvr_ea401.php

Dusty Baker 2
Jul 8, 2011

Keyboard Inghimasi

MMOs & Welfare posted:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Air_Lines_Flight_401

This one's a little older but the story behind it is chilling. Basically, this plane is flying over the Florida Everglades when an indicator light goes out. While they are working on it in the cabin, one of the crew accidentally disables the autopilot without noticing. They continue working on it, oblivious to what is going on, until exactly five seconds before the plane impacts the swamp.

CVR Transcript (skip to the end):

http://aviation-safety.net/investigation/cvr/transcripts/cvr_ea401.php

I remember reading about that one in a book I had. Apparently the recovery operation was an absolute bitch, too. The CVR is absolutely chilling, like you said.

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Box-Harry-Bosch/dp/0446556726

I found this book a while back. It's a collection of CVR transcripts from plane crashes. It's totally morbid but also fascinating.

Harald
Jul 10, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
TWA 800 is the OG mysterious plane crash

I am Toni Lippi
Aug 16, 2004

MMOs & Welfare posted:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Air_Lines_Flight_401

This one's a little older but the story behind it is chilling. Basically, this plane is flying over the Florida Everglades when an indicator light goes out. While they are working on it in the cabin, one of the crew accidentally disables the autopilot without noticing. They continue working on it, oblivious to what is going on, until exactly five seconds before the plane impacts the swamp.

CVR Transcript (skip to the end):

http://aviation-safety.net/investigation/cvr/transcripts/cvr_ea401.php

Holy poo poo, they crashed because these dummies were too busy trying to get the nose gear indicator light to work? I think that's probably the worst way to go, get a couple hundred people killed and your legacy of stupidity is preserved in audio. loving morons.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Dusty Baker 2 posted:

Plane crashes are witty, hilarious things. Post about 'em here.

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice
I once landed a 737 (no mechanical failures or anything just a routine landing) in MS Flight Simulator X while peaking on 1/8 of :shroom: with the realism cranked and full air traffic control protocol, it really wasn't that difficult and no souls were lost.

I am Toni Lippi
Aug 16, 2004

Mariana Horchata posted:

I once landed a 737 (no mechanical failures or anything just a routine landing) in MS Flight Simulator X while peaking on 1/8 of :shroom: with the realism cranked and full air traffic control protocol, it really wasn't that difficult and no souls were lost.

Good job landing on autopilot.

Dusty Baker 2
Jul 8, 2011

Keyboard Inghimasi

Pretty sure that's not what I said at all. The thread's to discuss air crashes, not to be super edgy.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Mariana Horchata posted:

I once landed a 737 (no mechanical failures or anything just a routine landing) in MS Flight Simulator X while peaking on 1/8 of :shroom: with the realism cranked and full air traffic control protocol, it really wasn't that difficult and no souls were lost.

Your problem was not turning the russian realism meter to full drunk

Panamaniac
Jun 18, 2007

HEROES NEVER DIE
I mean, when you think about it, jet travel is pretty freaking remarkable. You get in a plane, it defies the gravity of a entire planet by exploiting a loophole with air pressure, and it flies across distances that would take months or years to cross by any means of travel that has been significant for more than a century or three. You hurtle above the earth at enough speed to kill you instantly should you bump into something, and you can only breathe because someone built you a really good tin can that seems tight enough to hold in a decent amount of air. Hundreds of millions of man-hours of work and struggle and research, blood, sweat, tears and lives have gone into the history of air travel, and it has totally revolutionized the face of our planet and societies.

But get on any flight in the country, and I absolutely promise you that you will find someone who, in the face of all that incredible achievement, will be willing to complain about the drinks. The drinks, people.

Dusty Baker 2
Jul 8, 2011

Keyboard Inghimasi

Ron Paul Hype Man posted:

I mean, when you think about it, jet travel is pretty freaking remarkable. You get in a plane, it defies the gravity of a entire planet by exploiting a loophole with air pressure, and it flies across distances that would take months or years to cross by any means of travel that has been significant for more than a century or three. You hurtle above the earth at enough speed to kill you instantly should you bump into something, and you can only breathe because someone built you a really good tin can that seems tight enough to hold in a decent amount of air. Hundreds of millions of man-hours of work and struggle and research, blood, sweat, tears and lives have gone into the history of air travel, and it has totally revolutionized the face of our planet and societies.

But get on any flight in the country, and I absolutely promise you that you will find someone who, in the face of all that incredible achievement, will be willing to complain about the drinks. The drinks, people.

Pretty much this. I'm also thoroughly convinced that someday everybody will agree that helicopters can't actually fly and they'll all just fall from the sky.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Dusty Baker 2 posted:

Pretty much this. I'm also thoroughly convinced that someday everybody will agree that helicopters can't actually fly and they'll all just fall from the sky.

That guy just ripped off louis ck and you're calling me out on being edgy. You bad bad person

Dusty Baker 2
Jul 8, 2011

Keyboard Inghimasi

ethanol posted:

That guy just ripped off louis ck and you're calling me out on being edgy. You bad bad person

I'm sorry. Please forgive me.

Atma
Sep 16, 2002

College Slice

Ron Paul Hype Man posted:

But get on any flight in the country, and I absolutely promise you that you will find someone who, in the face of all that incredible achievement, will be willing to complain about the drinks. The drinks, people.

Why do airlines always serve tomato juice?

It's only ever offered on airplanes. You'll have a hard time getting tomato juice anywhere else. I get it just because it really is the only time I ever drink tomato juice.

I just looked it up and there is some scientific bullshit about air pressure and taste or some crap. I don't loving know. The word "umami" was used which reminds me of Japan so I closed the browser window.

Anyway ya, plane crashes. Imagine how much tomato juice is sprayed over the landscape. You can find whoever looted that plane over in Ukraine by seeing if they have empty V8's in their trashcan.

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

I am Toni Lippi posted:

Good job landing on autopilot.

true...but the :filez: scenery and effects were amazing to gawk at...it wasnt also kind of not really a runway ideally suited for airliner jets but knew I could stop that sombitch in time (even with a full load)...attempting to follow the assigned taxing route to parking was the big challenge so then i just quit playing and did something else

Dusty Baker 2
Jul 8, 2011

Keyboard Inghimasi
I would get about 30 minutes into a flight (at most) on flight simulator before I'd get bored and recreate 9/11.

KennyLoggins
Dec 3, 2004
Welcome to the Danger Zone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Airlines_Flight_261

60¢ worth of grease not applied to to the jackscrew cause it to fail. They actually flew the plane inverted for a while then they weren't able to get it recovered and crashed off the coast of California :(.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swissair_Flight_111

This one is pretty bad. Fire behind the cockpit because of a newly installed inflight entertainment system. They should have just landed and not tried to do a fuel dump.



Before 9/11 there was a man that wanted to crash a plane into a building and his name was Auburn Calloway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Express_Flight_705

The crew were able fight him off despite having severe injuries. And at one point no one was in the cockpit, all three flight crew were trying to subdue Calloway.

KennyLoggins fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Jul 24, 2014

Rapman the Cook
Aug 24, 2013

by Ralp
Its good people die in plane crashes.

It makes me happy and laugh.

Dusty Baker 2
Jul 8, 2011

Keyboard Inghimasi

Rapman the Cook posted:

Its good people die in plane crashes.

It makes me happy and laugh.

hosed up if true

let it mellow
Jun 1, 2000

Dinosaur Gum
I like my delta medallion status and lol at fuckers that have to go to the back of the plane

Ill Peripheral
Jun 29, 2008
That's not how air France 447 happened

Dusty Baker 2
Jul 8, 2011

Keyboard Inghimasi

Ill Peripheral posted:

That's not how air France 447 happened

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447#Airspeed_inconsistency

I am Toni Lippi
Aug 16, 2004
Actually they were freaking out because they couldn't understand why the plane was stalling out. As a matter of fact the stall warning is going crazy for a majority of the time and they ignore it. What's hosed up is that Robert realized why they were about to hit the water when Bonin says, "But I've had the stick back the whole time!" The thing about airbus is that they have these little joystick controls that sit beside the aircrew instead of the yoke. Robert and the Captain immediately know why they've essentially lost control of the plane. By this point it's pretty much too late to make corrective actions because they are descending too quickly, but Robert takes control of the plane lowering the nose and they begin to gain airspeed. WHEN SUDDENLY Bonin takes control again by pulling back on his stick without saying anything. Robert even manages to say, "drat it, we're going to crash...This can't be happening?" While a dumbfounded Bonin says, "But what's happening?" Just a couple seconds before they hit the water.

Number_6
Jul 23, 2006

BAN ALL GAS GUZZLERS

(except for mine)
Pillbug
Surprised that nobody's posted the famous 1989 United 232 DC-10 crash at Sioux City. It's been well-covered in media, but an engine explosion took out the hydraulics, leaving the plane with basically no means of control except for differential thrust on the left/right engines. About half the passengers survived, which was considered a near-miracle given how difficult the plane was to fly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_232

Video of crash landing (WARNING FATAL CRASH)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScKaq6CrQEw

joxxuh
May 20, 2011
Soviet pilot puts on autopilot and lets his kids "fly" the plane. The older kid disengages the autopilot and the plane crashes, killing all 75 people aboard. There's a transcript too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_593

Number_6
Jul 23, 2006

BAN ALL GAS GUZZLERS

(except for mine)
Pillbug
The other crash that's stuck with me was Air Florida Flight 90, which in 1982 crashed into the Potomac after a failed takeoff from Washington National. This was due to icing, faulty instrument readings, and several crew errors. This news event was the first "breaking news" thing I clearly remember watching on CNN.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Florida_Flight_90

Re-creation Video with CVR audio:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr66MHRJkMQ

Number_6
Jul 23, 2006

BAN ALL GAS GUZZLERS

(except for mine)
Pillbug

KennyLoggins posted:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swissair_Flight_111

This one is pretty bad. Fire behind the cockpit because of a newly installed inflight entertainment system. They should have just landed and not tried to do a fuel dump.



In some of these fire cases (like this one and Valujet/Florida) I can't help but wonder if they might have turned out "better" if they had just tried to get it on the ground immediately. Sometimes it seems like flight crews are almost too determined to make it to an airport, instead of risking a marginally-survivable crash landing on a highway or waterway (Sully landing in the Hudson being a rare successful example.)

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AYujWCCHRk

it counts

Number_6
Jul 23, 2006

BAN ALL GAS GUZZLERS

(except for mine)
Pillbug

Ron Paul Hype Man posted:

I mean, when you think about it, jet travel is pretty freaking remarkable. You get in a plane, it defies the gravity of a entire planet by exploiting a loophole with air pressure, and it flies across distances that would take months or years to cross by any means of travel that has been significant for more than a century or three.

This is true, but on the other hand I feel disappointed in how little the passenger experience has changed since the Boeing 707 came out more than fifty years ago. The cruising speed of a modern 777 and the 707 is basically the same. When I was a kid the Concorde and poo poo were supposed to be the future of aviation. Where's my SSTs and my Mach 20 spaceplanes that Popular Mechanics promised.

hofnar
Dec 27, 2008

by sebmojo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpkmZGh-Le8deo]


F-4, F-5, whatever

hofnar fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Jul 24, 2014

ExtraFox
May 22, 2003

~all of these candy~

Number_6 posted:

The other crash that's stuck with me was Air Florida Flight 90, which in 1982 crashed into the Potomac after a failed takeoff from Washington National. This was due to icing, faulty instrument readings, and several crew errors. This news event was the first "breaking news" thing I clearly remember watching on CNN.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Florida_Flight_90

Re-creation Video with CVR audio:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr66MHRJkMQ

" Four passengers and one flight attendant survived the crash. Four motorists from the bridge were killed. The survivors were rescued from the icy river by civilians and professionals. President Ronald Reagan commended these acts during his State of the Union speech a few days later. "

I uh. Thanks, Wikipedia writer.

Also this is not the first plane crash megathread, but each fills my need for disaster porn. Netflix is also great if you love cheesy simulated airplane disasters.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

best plane crash







the plane was polish built which makes it funnier

Dusty Baker 2
Jul 8, 2011

Keyboard Inghimasi

I am Toni Lippi posted:

Actually they were freaking out because they couldn't understand why the plane was stalling out. As a matter of fact the stall warning is going crazy for a majority of the time and they ignore it. What's hosed up is that Robert realized why they were about to hit the water when Bonin says, "But I've had the stick back the whole time!" The thing about airbus is that they have these little joystick controls that sit beside the aircrew instead of the yoke. Robert and the Captain immediately know why they've essentially lost control of the plane. By this point it's pretty much too late to make corrective actions because they are descending too quickly, but Robert takes control of the plane lowering the nose and they begin to gain airspeed. WHEN SUDDENLY Bonin takes control again by pulling back on his stick without saying anything. Robert even manages to say, "drat it, we're going to crash...This can't be happening?" While a dumbfounded Bonin says, "But what's happening?" Just a couple seconds before they hit the water.

Right. The plane was in a stall because the pitot tube got clogged with ice. The lack of airspeed information to the computer caused the autopilot to disengage, but the crew didn't realize it had. When AP disengaged, autothrust disengaged and the engines ran down to idle. The rest of it played out like you said.

SplitSoul posted:

best plane crash

pictures

the plane was polish built which makes it funnier

Those three pictures are my favorite image progression on the entire internet.

MMOs & Welfare
Jan 24, 2007

by Lowtax
Here's another tragic one. An unidentified plane pretty much falls out of the sky. Cause of the crash was attributed to pilot intoxication:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JsZbSzMi08

El Marrow
Jan 21, 2009

Everybody here is just as dead as you.

MrMidnight
Aug 3, 2006

I am Toni Lippi posted:

Actually they were freaking out because they couldn't understand why the plane was stalling out. As a matter of fact the stall warning is going crazy for a majority of the time and they ignore it. What's hosed up is that Robert realized why they were about to hit the water when Bonin says, "But I've had the stick back the whole time!" The thing about airbus is that they have these little joystick controls that sit beside the aircrew instead of the yoke. Robert and the Captain immediately know why they've essentially lost control of the plane. By this point it's pretty much too late to make corrective actions because they are descending too quickly, but Robert takes control of the plane lowering the nose and they begin to gain airspeed. WHEN SUDDENLY Bonin takes control again by pulling back on his stick without saying anything. Robert even manages to say, "drat it, we're going to crash...This can't be happening?" While a dumbfounded Bonin says, "But what's happening?" Just a couple seconds before they hit the water.

Literally the Gomer Pyle of Airplane pilots

Mambo No. 5
Feb 25, 2009

Admiral Parry "Terror" Sornis,
Dead Birds Society

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Airlines_Flight_102

747-400 crashed at Bagram. My boss knew the load master. Back when it happened the cargo plane that I worked on responded by adding more safety measures. poo poo's sad, yo.

Brand New Malaysian Wife
Apr 5, 2007
I encourage children who are bullied to kill themselves. In fact, I get off to it. Pedophilia-snuff films are the best. More abused children need to kill themselves.
The clean up from Air NZ Erebus flight over Antarctica was pretty ganrly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_New_Zealand_Flight_901

"The fact that we all spent about a week camped in polar tents amid the wreckage and dead bodies, maintaining a 24-hour work schedule says it all. We split the men into two shifts (12 hours on and 12 off), and recovered with great effort all the human remains at the site. Many bodies were trapped under tons of fuselage and wings and much physical effort was required to dig them out and extract them.

Initially, there was very little water at the site and we had only one bowl between all of us to wash our hands in before eating. The water was black. In the first days on site we did not wash plates and utensils after eating but handed them on to the next shift because we were unable to wash them. I could not eat my first meal on site because it was a meat stew. Our polar clothing became covered in black human grease (a result of burns on the bodies).

We felt relieved when the first resupply of woollen gloves arrived because ours had become saturated in human grease, however, we needed the finger movement that wool gloves afforded, i.e., writing down the details of what we saw and assigning body and grid numbers to all body parts and labelling them."

Human grease

Edit: Also spending weeks camped among debris and bodies in 24 hour daylight on the edge of Antarctica. gently caress that. No wonder almost everyone suffered from PTSD.

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SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

airliner carrying 116 just went down in north africa. goddamnit, OP.

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