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Maximum Overdrive was pretty good but I liked the book more.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:I like when people complain about his self-insertion in the Dark Tower books when in the books he's a huge stupid rear end in a top hat nobody likes This is true, the gunslinger basically calls him a weak rear end pussy motherfucker whose responsible for the death of a child and obsesses over his car crash
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Jul 25, 2014 08:03
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The first four gunslinger books and his short stories are okay and good writers + good budget could make It into a boss HBO-style series The fact that he doesn't like Kubrick's version of The Shining is hilarious
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Jul 25, 2014 08:07
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jackyl posted:yeah, okay, that got hosed up around book 4, but don't pretend you didn't read every one when it came out I'm tellin ya mang, it's not a backhanded compliment. I even like the ending. It makes sense, if you get your mind in that place where it's completely up your own rectum. I get the aesthetic. It's good. Zero sarcasm.
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Jul 25, 2014 08:14
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the very end of the dark tower is fine and people who were pissed off because it's an endlessly repeating loop didn't understand a stephen king book about a dimension hopping cowboy knight and you should probably take their hateful words with a grain of salt most of the 5-7th books are either extremely boring or ridiculous though
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Jul 25, 2014 08:21
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Zombies' Downfall posted:the very end of the dark tower is fine and people who were pissed off because it's an endlessly repeating loop didn't understand a stephen king book about a dimension hopping cowboy knight and you should probably take their hateful words with a grain of salt iirc it's not endlessly repeating because roland has some mcguffin on his belt at the end of book 7 he didn't have the first time around
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Jul 25, 2014 08:22
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Neurosis posted:iirc it's not endlessly repeating because roland has some mcguffin on his belt at the end of book 7 he didn't have the first time around Yeah he's repeating a loop until he becomes a good man or achieves enlightenment or whatever This is even reinforced by how stupid and goofy the Crimson King turns out to be, which makes perfect sense in light of the fact that the story is about Roland mastering his own willingness to sacrifice the people he loves for his goals and not killing the final boss, it's a banality of evil thing
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Jul 25, 2014 08:31
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Zombies' Downfall posted:Yeah he's repeating a loop until he becomes a good man or achieves enlightenment or whatever yeah i got that even king realised how lovely 5-7 were and talked about rewriting them as a major project and removing himself as a character lol honestly i wouldn't mind that
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Jul 25, 2014 08:34
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Neurosis posted:even king realised how lovely 5-7 were and talked about rewriting them as a major project and removing himself as a character lol the 5th book was honestly my least favorite because it's too long and the plot doesn't advance much at all, you also spend a couple hundred pages listening to someone recount salem's lot (i think???) the only defense i've ever heard of it that makes sense is "he had to show the gunslingers doing a gunslinger thing and tell a western story once" but that's literally what the book right before it is except better and more interesting i guess i'd be okay with this if he got a harsher editor is what i'm saying
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Jul 25, 2014 08:38
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The frisbee boomerang nunchucks were a bit much IMO And singing about rice in a sexualized way Plant the rice kamallah, she gasped cumming humpily
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Jul 25, 2014 08:41
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yeah, the last three Dark Tower books were kinda terrible and I am mad at him over those
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Jul 25, 2014 08:41
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Yo we just destroyed a motherfuckin sentient train by telling it riddles, we're kicking rear end trekking through an apocalyptic blasted landscape in search of the dark tower with insanely cool villians, oh by the way i'm going to stop the narrative and spend this entire book in a flashback telling you about my first girlfriend and our really long boring romance
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Jul 25, 2014 08:47
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The hosed up part about The Dark Tower was right before the last chapter where he literally says if you've been reading the series for the past 30 years, stop now and make up your own ending.
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Jul 25, 2014 08:47
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im pooping! posted:The hosed up part about The Dark Tower was right before the last chapter where he literally says if you've been reading the series for the past 30 years, stop now and make up your own ending. This is honestly good advice to the kind of person who would follow a fantasy novel series for 30 years and get upset if the ending was bad
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Jul 25, 2014 08:48
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I used to read a lot of trashy Lovecraft-inspired anthologies because I had a job with a lot of downtime and one of them had a short story by Stephen King where a guy writes in his journal and is all "Man there's something pretty bad about this evil chapel near my house" and then he goes to the evil chapel and there's a dead body or something and then he leaves
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Jul 25, 2014 08:58
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When the Losers' travel into the sewer with the intent of destroying It, they momentarily find themselves hopelessly trapped. As the boys start to panic, Beverly comes up with the idea of having sex with the others in order to calm them down, as a result the other Losers take turns having sex with her. Because King didn't wish this to be viewed as a lewd scene, the narrative explicitly states that the act of intimacy with each of the boys' helps to further strengthen their friendship; and Beverly only experiences orgasm while having intercourse with Bill Denbrough and Ben Hanscom.
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Jul 25, 2014 08:58
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King's prose certainly aren't breaking any ground, but god drat does the man know how to tell a great story. I just finished Doctor Sleep last week and it was loving thrilling. One of those books where you just can't bring yourself to put it down. OP is a giant human being.
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Jul 25, 2014 08:59
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Carrie: The musical. Just reminding people that this is a thing that exists.
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Jul 25, 2014 09:01
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He's hit or miss. When he fails to create a riveting tale, he just farts and pulls aliens or some bullshit out of his rear end. Under the Dome's ending was such bullshit.
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Jul 25, 2014 09:11
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The Long Walk is the best thing he ever wrote. Everyone go read it right now, it'll only take you a couple of sittings.
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Jul 25, 2014 09:20
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I really liked the Dark Tower books even the Drawing of Three and Song for Susannah which weren't that well liked I don't think. Salem's Lot was really enjoyable too.
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Jul 25, 2014 09:49
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"hey, hey guys remember that time I got hit by a van?"
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Jul 25, 2014 09:52
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Fandyien posted:has ever explaned why he wrote that sewer child orgy scene He was horny.
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Jul 25, 2014 10:42
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The Jaunt is pretty much the best S.F. story ever written, and that isn't even his main genre. Pretty damned impressive (before the mid 1990's).
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Jul 25, 2014 11:02
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Remember when he hosed up Lars Von Trier's The Kingdom, and made it into something less scary than a postage stamp.
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Jul 25, 2014 11:08
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Volume posted:He made an entire career out of writting mary sue fan fiction of himself. Even Lisey's Story was about how much his wife would miss her wonderful distant alcoholic husband after he passed away. He's no better than the Twilight Saga author. Was he the dog in Cujo?
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Jul 25, 2014 11:10
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he's really consistent at writing exciting middle sections that you want to keep reading but then you get to the ending and hate him
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Jul 25, 2014 11:19
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hovis rock posted:I'm sure your all much better writers than Steven King? hovis rock posted:Nice fallacy. hovis rock posted:"Steven King being a bad author is not a fallacy, despite him selling millions of books" is this what GBS is now? yeesh...
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Jul 25, 2014 11:38
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Stephen King is alright. His books generally make good movies.
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Jul 25, 2014 11:39
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I've never read a Stephen King book. I read some Dean Koontz when I was a kid, they were okay I guess.
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Jul 25, 2014 11:42
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Volume posted:He made an entire career out of writting mary sue fan fiction of himself. You know to be honest I've always got the feeling that King does a lot of writing using himself as a base not because of ego fan fiction, but because if you're going to produce as MANY books as he does every year... you're gonna kind of need a template to start from. I bet that knocks months off the writing process to not have to think of location or recreate characters and instead go "Eh, Maine!" I can see why he wanted to tie all the books together in that Dark Tower series because of it. I think he'd been better off (and probably would have in today's crossover climate) if all the books were set in the same universe whenever possible anyway. burritolingus posted:Stephen King is alright. His books generally make good movies. Only in the hands of a director who isn't afraid to wildly change them to make a good movie. Look at The Shining or The Green Mile for example. Frankly King's best strength is an idea man, and atmosphere, and a little polish by someone with a vision can really make it work. ... when you don't do that, well, you get the TV movie version of The Shining. Say what you will though, he is STILL putting out a lot of books each year, and they'll probably be making movies out of them for the next 60+ years. And from what I understand he's still pretty consistent quality wise, turning out some "Meh" books next to a few pretty good ones. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 11:49 on Jul 25, 2014 |
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Jul 25, 2014 11:45
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His short stories were/are very good, his novellas are usually very good, his novels are hit-or-miss. I think he has just as many terrible novels as he has good ones, but when he does well it's usually very good.* As a few people have said, On Writing is one of my favorite non-fiction books, serving as a sort of biography/ writing guide and often something in between. His prose has become worse and worse as I read better and better authors. His favorite novel is War and Peace, which having read that caused me to pick it up one day while I was browsing Chapters, and after having read it I read a few of his short stories and felt like I was reading something written by a Jr High School student. *Ideas good
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Jul 25, 2014 13:37
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When I was a young teenager I read Geralds' Game. Still wondering why that book was in my middle school library. I kinda stopped reading him after that.
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Jul 25, 2014 13:42
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i love dick, if thats any consolation..
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Jul 25, 2014 13:47
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Spacedad posted:Carrie: The musical. Stephen King and John Mellencamp wrote a musical together, it's supposed to be godawful
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Jul 25, 2014 13:48
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Volume posted:He made an entire career out of writting mary sue fan fiction of himself. Even Lisey's Story was about how much his wife would miss her wonderful distant alcoholic husband after he passed away. He's no better than the Twilight Saga author. Mary Sue? really? i honestly can't think of a King character that's super powered and never fails at anything. also, i have to agree that his ideas for stories (not necessarily how he writes them) really went downhill when he stopped doing coke. i guess staying up for 20 hours thinking weird thoughts really helps when you write horror
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Jul 25, 2014 13:57
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Stephen King books (almost) always go the same way: (Character introductions almost always involving a writer) step 1. Protagonist(s) move in to a new town step 2. Spooky poo poo step 3. LOL IT WAS GIANT ALIENS DOING MIND poo poo ALL ALONG
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Jul 25, 2014 13:58
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I've been working my way through the Dark Tower series. I just got to the bit where the cowboy man does a big dance in front of a town. Liking it all so far, but its ridiculous.
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Jul 25, 2014 14:41
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Most awkward moments in king writing. 1. Kids having a space orgy in the sewers. It's like a 10 year old gangbang for five chapters. 2. That dude in cujo jacking off. 3. The stand where that dude rapes another dude with a gun and tugs his wenier until it looks like one of those pool balls (The purple one?) and blasts semen all over a trashcan or something 4. his new book of short stories about the farm kid called (The mom who fingers herself then died) or something. It's about this mom that's murdered by the father and son because all she wants to is get drunk and sodomized and steal money from the husband so she gets poisoned and choked and axed and thrown down a well and maybe fingered afterwards too 5. That scene in the running man where his wife gets gangbanged by like 500000 dudes and dies from getting a heroin needle jacked up her vagina or butt, I dunno. 6. The worst by far is that scene in Everything Eventual where they the main hero orders a egg salad or something instead of a steak despite it being like 5star dig what a loving mind bender
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big duck equals goose posted:Most awkward moments in king writing. that stuff is pretty tame for a horror writer
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