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fungah you should try and help me convince oxx that monster hunter is a swell game for cool dudes
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Toxxupation posted:fungah you should try and help me convince oxx that monster hunter is a swell game for cool dudes Monster Hunter IS a swell game for cool dudes, like me. TRUE STORY: I won a microstatue of a Rathalos by getting a lucky ticket at a Nintendo World Store event. Which is to say, I won a Raffle-os.
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Dec 19, 2014 23:20
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DoctorWhat posted:Monster Hunter IS a swell game for cool dudes, like me. did you touch it and feel sick (because its tail is poisonous) (This was a bad joke) (gently caress tigrex)
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Dec 19, 2014 23:22
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Oxx, people who play monster hunter are scientifically proven to be both handsomer and smarter than their colleagues, and also lead fulfilling, spiritually complete lives. You can't let Occ have that leg up on you man
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Dec 19, 2014 23:22
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Toxxupation posted:did you touch it and feel sick my first and only monhun was 3U on 3ds and wii u i've never fought tigrex
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Dec 19, 2014 23:23
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DoctorWhat posted:my first and only monhun was 3U on 3ds and wii u what in the hell next youll tell me you've never used a great sword
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Dec 19, 2014 23:24
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Toxxupation posted:what in the hell I fuckin love greatswords, man, but my true love is the righteous gunlance. I also like Switchaxe.
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Dec 19, 2014 23:27
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Hammer bros reppin'
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Dec 19, 2014 23:30
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Fungah! posted:Hammer bros reppin' I can't quite get the hang of hammers, which is my eternal shame
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Dec 19, 2014 23:32
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DoctorWhat posted:I can't quite get the hang of hammers, which is my eternal shame you pick up the light bit, and you hit the monster in the head with the heavy bit
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Dec 19, 2014 23:33
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DoctorWhat posted:I can't quite get the hang of hammers, which is my eternal shame Can't hammer out the all the kinks with using Hammers eh?
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Dec 19, 2014 23:34
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surc posted:This is actually a key point to clarify, because so many people either don't get it, or just hand-wave it away as being overly-pc. You can create something that contributes to racism without intending for it to be racist. Right, I felt the same way when Toxx reviewed "Voyage of the Damned" and said that making the villain a metaphorical gay person was homophobic. While I seriously doubt the openly gay Russell T. Davies is homophobic, he clearly didn't think about how it could be interpreted.
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Dec 20, 2014 00:43
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It was just RTD clumsily throwing together the only two ex-"companions" who were still on present-day earth and not memory-wiped (this is a pretty big thing they have in common btw). I think reading some kind of anti-miscegeny message into it is absurd when Donna was shown marrying a black person in the same episode.
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Dec 20, 2014 01:35
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Pretty much this. Too strictly scrutinizing things will give out lot of false positives. Some of these are pretty hilarious, like someone noticing that the Dickens ghost episode had possible anti-immigration tones.
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Dec 20, 2014 01:42
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I'm relatively sure that immigrants are not ghosts
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Dec 20, 2014 01:47
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Then why are they always found in attics
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Dec 20, 2014 01:53
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My problem with it was that the only two major black characters in four seasons had so little to do or wrap up in their own character arcs that there was no choice but to say they got married despite never speaking to each other on camera. Also, they're soldiers even though the last two season talked about the Doctor doing that to people was lovely. It's the same with Jack, the only openly non-heterosexual character, being sent off with a one-night stand. It's not intentional, and it's not malicious. There's just an extreme lack of thought, and it sucks to see.
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Dec 20, 2014 02:22
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This is the central issue with Rusty's run on the show in my opinion. He had a very distinct political agenda going and it was a laudable one because he made a point of having more women, people of colour, and queer characters who actually had agency and personality. But sometimes he shat the bed in ways that are weirdly off-putting if you pay attention because he was more interested in these big broad strokes or funny in-jokes than in actually following through on that agenda. It's not the worst vice that a showrunner can have, and the fact that he made a point of positioning a show with a broad demographic base as a conspicuously progressive one is pretty cool. But at the same time, it leads to all these little points that kind of rankle or make you roll your eyes. When you make a point of being politically progressive, you invite people to consider how well you pulled it off. adhuin posted:Some of these are pretty hilarious, like someone noticing that the Dickens ghost episode had possible anti-immigration tones. Dude the whole story was explicitly about asylum seekers that turned out to be horrifying monsters. I really don't know how you can say there isn't some anxiety about immigration there. Republican Vampire fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Dec 20, 2014 |
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Republican Vampire posted:Dude the whole story was explicitly about asylum seekers that turned out to be horrifying monsters. I really don't know how you can say there isn't some anxiety about immigration there. This one is another lack of thought issue. People roll their eyes and say you're overthinking it, but it's interesting to look at. Science fiction was established as an official genre in the early and mid 20th century, coinciding with two world wars and the Cold War. There was a lot of paranoia of all out invasion and more subversive infiltration by foreign powers during that time. Scifi explored these fears through a different lens, making the vague foreign threat into aliens. The degree of removal allowed audiences to reconsider what caused these fears and to see them for what they were. The Dickens episode almost certainly didn't have some xenophobic message intended when it was written. It was just the creators doing a thing without really thinking again.
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Toxxupation posted:Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance is now six dollars on Steam Though be warned that it's like 25 GB (I own it and it's cool although I stopped playing about midway through).
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computer parts posted:Though be warned that it's like 25 GB (I own it and it's cool although I stopped playing about midway through). got shadows of mordor from a friend and that's like 45 
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Irony Be My Shield posted:It was just RTD clumsily throwing together the only two ex-"companions" who were still on present-day earth and not memory-wiped (this is a pretty big thing they have in common btw). I think reading some kind of anti-miscegeny message into it is absurd when Donna was shown marrying a black person in the same episode. This is the line I'm trying to dice, and a lot of it has to do with colorblindness by individuals not actually changing the imbalance in the way our society is structured (which is pretty racistly), and in fact how it can lead to resentment about things like Affirmative Action in the U.S. due to a lack of understanding of how uneven our society actually is. Republican Vampire's post is kind of what I'm getting at. Because RTD so clearly is *going* for one thing, when you see something where it's thrown in, and it clashes with the overall message he's going for, and it seems to basically come down to thoughtlessness on his part, it's really frustrating. Both because he's so clearly trying and here's a glaring problem with his attempt, and because it reflects the kind of thoughtlessness that typifies "new" racism to me. Republican Vampire posted:This is the central issue with Rusty's run on the show in my opinion. He had a very distinct political agenda going and it was a laudable one because he made a point of having more women, people of colour, and queer characters who actually had agency and personality. But sometimes he shat the bed in ways that are weirdly off-putting if you pay attention because he was more interested in these big broad strokes or funny in-jokes than in actually following through on that agenda. I also feel like it's an issue of creator intention vs audience interpretation. Things Rusty might go "Ah, this is a tip of the hat to the X community!" will in fact also send some type of message to the rest of the audience. The biggest example of this type of problem in media that comes to mind is Chappelle's Show, where Dave Chappelle was making jokes that went from being a sharp parody of racism in america into a bunch of white guys quoting that "parody" racism in every day life to the point where it basically was expanding the very thing he was trying to criticize across the country. Anecdotally, I also met a guy from Europe while travelling who would sing Cartman's "Mexican" song loudly throughout the day, and find it hilarious, thinking that the humor was in the making fun of the mexicans instead of the humor being how horrible a person Cartman is. You have to be very conscious when you start getting near issues of race/gender/sexuality, because what you're trying to say and what people hear might be wildly different. I mean, I still love that ending because I'm all about the high emotion and the doctor going around to see all his pals one last time and do them all a solid, it's just that every time the line about "well you shouldn't have married me!" or whatever makes me wince. (To be fair, I'd probably wince even if I didn't see it as having a racial undertone, because wtf why are you marrying two random companions that have never met, offscreen, right before they go away forever?)
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Martha and Mickey hooked up in the conclusion of Journey's End, and it was suggested that Jack was going to bring them both into the Torchwood unit. It's a thirty-second scene, but there you go.
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Oxxidation posted:Martha and Mickey hooked up in the conclusion of Journey's End, and it was suggested that Jack was going to bring them both into the Torchwood unit. It's a thirty-second scene, but there you go. You are completely right, and I had totally forgotten that happened. I still think the underlying issue exists in RTD's run on Doctor Who, and is generally important to keep in mind when watching things, but you have now preserved the end of Tennant as the doctor for me, thanks!
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Oxxidation posted:Martha and Mickey hooked up in the conclusion of Journey's End, and it was suggested that Jack was going to bring them both into the Torchwood unit. It's a thirty-second scene, but there you go. That, and 'you died to save me in an alternate timeline that you don't remember' isn't the best foundation for a long-term relationship, which explains why she broke up with Tom.
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Season 5 Guessing Game! With Tennant's passing we arrive at the time of Smith, a whole new doctor and a whole new showrunner. As people seemed to enjoy it I'm going to continue the game to see who can guess what Toxx will think of series. This time I'm also going to keep a running total over elevens three series and will award a prize for best over the whole of Matt Smiths run. To recap for people who missed entry last time to enter send an email to toxxtorwho@gmail.com . The first of the e-mail should be your username, then the next 13 lines should be your guesses listed as the rating A-F. DO NOT WRITE ANYTHING ELSE ON THOSE LINES! I'm going to be copy/pasting them into a spreadsheet and makes more work for me if you write anything else. If you do want to add comments or other bits please add them at the bottom of the e-mail. What this means I should receive is LW A B C D F A B ... and so on If you have any questions you can PM me or e-mail the toxxtorwho account and I'll answer it. Deadline for submission is the first review going up. As before don't use this as an excuse to poo poo up the thread and toxx/oxx and the mods have veto rights if they think this is a problem. Good Luck!
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Little_wh0re posted:Season 5 Guessing Game! Oh what the hell, I'll give it a go this time. I know this season much better than I knew season 4.
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So are we all agreed that a lot of Occ's hate for season 1 is definitely based on how he wasn't used to the show yet, and if he went back and watched it he'd probably like it more?
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Bown posted:So are we all agreed that a lot of Occ's hate for season 1 is definitely based on how he wasn't used to the show yet, and if he went back and watched it he'd probably like it more? No, it is a bad season.
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Bown posted:So are we all agreed that a lot of Occ's hate for season 1 is definitely based on how he wasn't used to the show yet, and if he went back and watched it he'd probably like it more? It sucks
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Well yeah, but it all sucks. He definitely starts making more excuses/giving it more leeway/giving it higher grades because of one thing even if everything else sucks starting with s2.
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Dec 21, 2014 15:30
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If anything s1 looks worse compared to the later seasons. It really has not aged well at all.
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Dec 21, 2014 15:50
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I have joined the fray. Oh boy I'm going to be last place!
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Little_wh0re posted:Season 5 Guessing Game! Guess I'll give it a try this time, after lurking through the last batch.
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I'm gonna throw my hat in the ring as well, but I'm pretty sure my unabiding love for the vast majority of season 5 has skewed my predictions somewhat.
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Dec 21, 2014 16:56
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As defending champion, I feel an obligation to defend my crown. But I can't say I'm particularly optimistic about my chances.
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Tim Burns Effect posted:If anything s1 looks worse compared to the later seasons. It really has not aged well at all. Yeah, I liked Season 1 a lot before this thread and now I realize that what I mostly liked was Eccleston. Everything else about those episodes (Moffat's excluded) was really dire, even by Who's standards.
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I'm in, it will be interesting see if my memory of the episodes lines up with what Toxx thinks...
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I've only ever read this thread and never participated, but gently caress it, I'm throwing my hat in the ring for this season's betting too.
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Threw my hat into the ring this time. I liked series 5 way more than, say, series 4, so it was hard for me to not give a bunch of high grades, but we'll see what happens! It's hard, because I've been intentionally holding off rewatching Series 5 until Toxx starts, so a few of them I don't remember too well.
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