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quote:me: anyways, beyond that do you have an in which https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hide_%28Doctor_Who%29
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Oh btw this is the Journey's End/Turn Left MK II of episodes, this one right here
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Jerusalem posted:
No, they just didn't use him to his fullest capacity. William Shatner wasted him in Star Trek V. Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHV0zs0kVGg
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Jun 4, 2015 01:41
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This episode is really fun and good and I love the ending a whole lot  "This isn't a ghost story... it's a love story!  "Edit: The Doctor looks like he's having so much fun at the end of this story, it's great.
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Jun 4, 2015 01:52
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I liked this one, but I felt it needed to dwell upon a few of its moments more. I remember feeling like it just kind of zipped through, a bit too quickly.
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Jun 4, 2015 02:22
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This episode, and Rings were enough to get me finally watching Luther. People should watch Luther.
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Jun 4, 2015 02:38
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Luther is such a stupid and ridiculous show. I loving love Luther 
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Jun 4, 2015 02:42
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I watched a few episodes of Luther a year or two ago thanks to all the praise from the DW thread. I quit early because I just couldn't handle how stupid the main character was. I can handle a truly remarkable amount of bullshit at face level, yet that was too much for me. This episode owned though.
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Jun 4, 2015 03:13
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Stink Terios posted:I watched a few episodes of Luther a year or two ago thanks to all the praise from the DW thread. Was it how all the cops were standing in the middle of a parking lot looking at obvious bait while they were hunting a guy with a rifle knocking off cops because that wasn't even dramatic, just funny.
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Jun 4, 2015 03:21
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This is my favorite episode of the season.
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Jun 4, 2015 03:39
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I completely forgot about this episode, which is a shame because it's pretty good. It was pretty neat finding out that the horrifying monster isn't even evil. I also really liked the monster design.
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Jun 4, 2015 03:50
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Thus, uh, sure was an episode of Doctor Who. I remember the line about "the only mystery worth solving" and that's it. Did I space out? Did I fall asleep? Who knows!
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Jun 4, 2015 06:24
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I just rewatched this episode and really enjoyed it, even though I didn't remember much of it. If you liked this episode, you should read James Tiptree Jr.'s short story "The Man Who Walked Home," from which this episode draws the concept of the person in a parallel universe appearing as a spectre. Tiptree Jr. was a very good writer, so if you like science fiction she's worth reading.
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Jun 4, 2015 06:54
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Hide is a good episode that really could have used another 10 minutes to make the ending feel less rushed.CobiWann posted:One – there is an classic episode of Doctor Who broadcast in 1983, Warriors of the Deep, that utilizes the Cold War as a backdrop, set in the mid-21st century. No nations are named (just “power blocs”), the Silurians are the bad guys, and let’s just say there are…reasons…fans don’t talk about this episode that much. The Cold War comes up in other episodes, either directly (the Brigadier talking about both sides working together to defeat the Cybermen in The Invasion), and in stories like The Armageddon Factor.
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Jun 4, 2015 07:20
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The Mind of Evil and Day of the Daleks both use "the Cold War is about to turn hot" as a backdrop. (UNIT kept being pulled away from its job of fighting alien invaders to act as security guards for diplomats in the Pertwee era.)
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Jun 4, 2015 07:50
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Ok so this is the first one I haven't seen. Like I was going to watch another episode by that lovely-rear end Rings writer. (I mean Luther is great but the guy needs to stick to what he knows)
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Jun 4, 2015 07:57
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correction- the first season of Luther and only that is very very good
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Bown posted:Ok so this is the first one I haven't seen. Like I was going to watch another episode by that lovely-rear end Rings writer. (I mean Luther is great but the guy needs to stick to what he knows) Hide is alot better than Rings imo
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Jun 4, 2015 08:20
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Toxxupation posted:
being really good at being mundane doesn't really make it more interesting.
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Jun 4, 2015 08:23
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In which the doctor saved everybody but everybody is an rear end in a top hat
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Jun 4, 2015 08:28
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This is the one that was supposed to be a Quatermass crossover, but they couldn't get the rights. Everyone should probably at least wiki Quatermass. In terms of TV history it's kind of a big deal.
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I liked most of Hide, but I remember being really annoyed at the unexplained presence and existence of an empath. Doctor Who can and does pull some crazy stuff, but it almost always at least tries to explain it. That explanation doesn't always work, but it helps that they at least try to make it buyable. They don't even try to explain the empath's existence, the Doctor's just going 'oh, yeah, those exist' and continuing on his way. As I recall the reason she's having such success in this specific case is because she's an ancestor of the ghost-woman, but she's clearly not a fraud outside of it. It just really bugs me, and kind of ruins the episode for me in my memory. It makes it worse that it's in an episode that takes a pretty good swing at trying to explain a more modern, low-key style of haunting (Who usually goes for a bit of a more classic ghost depiction than 'creepy figure in the background of photos). A genuine attempt at a sci-fi explanation of ghosts is kind of let down by the fact it's in a story that just goes 'also this lady has psychic powers'.
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Cleretic posted:A genuine attempt at a sci-fi explanation of ghosts is kind of let down by the fact it's in a story that just goes 'also this lady has psychic powers'. just want to point out that in the who revival episodes "The Unquiet Dead", "Human Nature", and "Family of Blood" that psychic powers being a Thing Humans Have was deliberately made incredibly clear like the backstory of Who revival is that everyone is at least slightly psychic - i believe that's part of the justification for how the psychic paper inherently works, it exploits all humans' marginal psychic abilities - it's just that some people are more sensitive to it
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Jun 4, 2015 10:06
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Toxxupation posted:just want to point out that in the who revival episodes "The Unquiet Dead", "Human Nature", and "Family of Blood" that psychic powers being a Thing Humans Have was deliberately made incredibly clear Also the Doctor is a telepath (as are other Time Lords), the TARDIS has telepathic circuits, several stories in the original series feature telepaths of various races, etc, etc.
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Jun 4, 2015 10:17
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I liked Hide though the ending was a bit of a swerve
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Jun 4, 2015 10:22
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Toxxupation posted:just want to point out that in the who revival episodes "The Unquiet Dead", "Human Nature", and "Family of Blood" that psychic powers being a Thing Humans Have was deliberately made incredibly clear AND DON'T FORGET PLANET OF THE DEAD!
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Jun 4, 2015 11:45
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Of all the different code words and trigger phrases revival Who has tried to pull over the decade it's been on - some successful, some very not - "he will knock four times" has to be the worst by far.
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Jun 4, 2015 12:08
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Bown posted:Of all the different code words and trigger phrases revival Who has tried to pull over the decade it's been on - some successful, some very not - "he will knock four times" has to be the worst by far. at least that's something that sounds close to a prophecy, instead of bad wolf which is just two words that make no sense.
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I realize "hard sci fi" people really don't like psychic powers and I get it, kind of, but everyone has always wanted them and I kind of like them in my space wizard fiction. Every time I go through the automatic doors at the grocery store, I wave my hand and pretend I opened them with my mind, which I recommend when you are feeling down.
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Toxxupation posted:Oh btw this is the Journey's End/Turn Left MK II of episodes, this one right here Toxxupation posted:"Journey's End" Toxxupation posted:"Turn Left" I honestly have no idea how to take this.
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Jun 4, 2015 13:58
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Bicyclops posted:I realize "hard sci fi" people really don't like psychic powers and I get it, kind of, but everyone has always wanted them and I kind of like them in my space wizard fiction. Every time I go through the automatic doors at the grocery store, I wave my hand and pretend I opened them with my mind, which I recommend when you are feeling down. Yeah you'll never find a more quietly stick-up-his-rear end "Star Wars is lame, Star Trek is hard only in technobabble" dude than me but I'd be lying out of said stick-filled rear end if I said I didn't do the exact same thing at automatic doors or in elevators. Love of science in fiction does not preclude a love of the mystical in the same.
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thrawn527 posted:I honestly have no idea how to take this. I think in the Journey's End review he said it retroactively made him like Turn Left more or something. So possibly this episode redeems an earlier bad one, or he's hoping this episode will be redeemed by an episode yet to come.
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I think it's because he an Oxx disagreed heavily about those 2?
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Trojan Kaiju posted:I think it's because he an Oxx disagreed heavily about those 2? I thought that as well but since Oxxidation peaced out it seems like it'd be weird to bring up his opinion.
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2house2fly posted:I thought that as well but since Oxxidation peaced out it seems like it'd be weird to bring up his opinion. they're still friends dude
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Jun 4, 2015 19:57
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Come back to the thread Oxxidation. Come back just to reply "no" to this post.
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Fungah! posted:they're still friends dude maybe not after his terrible, no good, very bad opinion on "Hide"
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you forgot "horrible" (I actually mostly like Hide but I've only seen it once).
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I literally do not remember this episode. I read the wiki entry and I still don't remember this episode. Now I'm wondering if I somehow missed it when it aired and didn't care because Clara is A Bore or something. I think I really may have missed it. And then not realized/remembered that I missed it. Huh. Guess I'll have something to watch after work tonight.
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Cleretic posted:I liked most of Hide, but I remember being really annoyed at the unexplained presence and existence of an empath. LOL at you. The Doctor transferred a data dump to Craig by headbutting him. Telepathy is a thing that exists in Who.
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