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adhuin posted:After seeing the Doctor Who confidential, Kill the Moon feels even worse. Oh god, overseas shooting that's basically an excuse for a holiday, a Doctor that's much more abrasive...it's the 80s all over again!
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# ? Aug 4, 2015 09:40 |
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Cleretic posted:All I know about Civil War is that basically everyone not directly working on it during and after the whole thing just hated it, so much so that a good couple years of Iron Man stories were devoted to damage control. Hey woah woah woah, let's not go crazy here.
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# ? Aug 4, 2015 17:58 |
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Honestly, Comic Book Talk here- while I've never been thrilled with the Marvel movies as they've gone on, for various, various reasons, Civil War is the only one I actively dread. But for the moment we have a train to catch
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# ? Aug 4, 2015 18:10 |
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I'm trepidatious about Civil War but only because I think Marvel are forcing the Russos to shove too much crap in ala Age of Ultron. Shame cause Winter Soldier is still arguably the best actual MOVIE of the Marvel flicks so far even if there are others I prefer.
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# ? Aug 4, 2015 19:16 |
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surc posted:Hey woah woah woah, let's not go crazy here. No he's dead right. The marketing hook for Civil War is absolutely golden and the reason why casual fans remember it so fondly, but the actual story as-written is pretty drat close to Love&Monsters territory on how to gently caress over a great concept. Every single person I've seen defending Civil War the comic was either a total neophyte when they read it and/or don't remember the details all that well, especially all the tie-in details that reveal what a mismanaged piece of garbage it really was. The only good thing I know about the movie adaptation is that it's in-name-only so far. But hey the art's kind-of pretty!
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:03 |
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Civil War's story was fantastic and its writing was perfect... Because it lead to Mighty God King making "I Don't Need Your Civil War" http://mightygodking.com/i-dont-need-your-civil-war/
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:21 |
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Adder Moray posted:Civil War's story was fantastic and its writing was perfect... That is a strong argument
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:27 |
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Escobarbarian posted:I'm trepidatious about Civil War but only because I think Marvel are forcing the Russos to shove too much crap in ala Age of Ultron. Shame cause Winter Soldier is still arguably the best actual MOVIE of the Marvel flicks so far even if there are others I prefer. I'm wondering exactly how early the cliffhanger from Winter Soldier is resolved (with Cap finding him) since the rest of the film is looking like Avengers 3: we need RDJ or else our movies don't sell.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:29 |
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Adder Moray posted:Civil War's story was fantastic and its writing was perfect... Is there a less... labor-intensive archive of this somewhere? Maybe an imgur album (or seven)?
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:31 |
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DoctorWhat posted:Is there a less... labor-intensive archive of this somewhere? Maybe an imgur album (or seven)? I can tell you weren't on the internet in the late 90s and early 2000s
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:42 |
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Adder Moray posted:Civil War's story was fantastic and its writing was perfect... All the best crops grow from the shittiest poo poo. Burkion posted:I can tell you weren't on the internet in the late 90s and early 2000s Lol I know right?
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:54 |
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Burkion posted:I can tell you weren't on the internet in the late 90s and early 2000s Oh, I was online in the early 2000s. And it was terrible. I never want to deal with Photobucket or Imageshelf again as long as I live. Painful interfaces. Just awful. So I feel very bad whenever I'm expected to go along with that sort of garbage in 2015.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 01:08 |
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mind the walrus posted:No he's dead right. actually, Civil War... *tents fingers* ...ruled
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 01:11 |
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DoctorWhat posted:Oh, I was online in the early 2000s. And it was terrible. I never want to deal with Photobucket or Imageshelf again as long as I live. Painful interfaces. Just awful. I some times have a warped nostalgia for the lovely awful things of the past You know, like some have with the awful cartoons that no one remembers of your childhood. The ones that made GI Joe and Transformers look like first class literature
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 01:11 |
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If I want superheroes beating the crap out of each other, I'll re-read Kingdom Come.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 01:41 |
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Toxxupation posted:actually, Civil War... You think I'm that easy to bait? Burkion posted:I some times have a warped nostalgia for the lovely awful things of the past It's not warped. That's what nostalgia is-- fondness for things that were objectively kind-of poo poo when you were experiencing them. I was watching some Angel the other day and actually had some fondness for the ugly 2000-2002 aesthetic. I hated the 2000-2002 aesthetic.
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mind the walrus posted:That's what nostalgia is-- fondness for things that were objectively kind-of poo poo when you were experiencing them. yeah i know, joss whedon tv shows, right
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Toxxupation posted:yeah i know, joss whedon tv shows, right I'm sorry if I ruined your fun.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 02:11 |
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Comics suck. Only three characters I would buy comics about, if I could afford it: Constantine, Deadpool, Ms. Marvel. nobody else matters.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 02:19 |
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Civil War was a great concept and there's more than enough good material to condense into a movie. That's assuming they even want to re-use much from the comics. They definitely don't have to and I'd even prefer if they didn't. Would be nice to see a different take on it. Oh right, and isn't Whedon finally done with the Avengers? If that doesn't give you hope I don't know what will. kant fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Aug 5, 2015 |
# ? Aug 5, 2015 02:25 |
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I've never, ever been a fan of comics, with extremely rare exceptions - even reading the "big events" of years past left me cold - but I have for some reason been drawn into and have been greatly enjoying the whole "Secret Wars" event Marvel is doing right now. Part of it, I think, is that it doesn't feel like comic books are insulting my intelligence anymore, with the characters simply speaking out their plans on every panel. In addition, the artwork has a more cinematic feel, and the characters have recognizable arcs.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 02:28 |
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CobiWann posted:If I want superheroes beating the crap out of each other, I'll re-read Kingdom Come. This is the best post. Kingdom Come is to Blink as Civil War is to Love and Monsters. You may not like how clever it's trying to be, but it's also not pissing off half of the audience.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 02:38 |
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Blink/Kingdom Come also achieves its narrative promise, while Love&Monsters/Civil War doesn't, despite Blink/Kingdom Come having by far the less appealing concept.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 02:47 |
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Spatula City posted:Comics suck. Only three characters I would buy comics about, if I could afford it: Constantine, Deadpool, Ms. Marvel. nobody else matters. Well at least Ms. Marvel is good
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 03:33 |
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Look everybody knows if a comic wasn't written by Mike Baron it's crap, and let's just leave it at that.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 04:14 |
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computer parts posted:I'm wondering exactly how early the cliffhanger from Winter Soldier is resolved (with Cap finding him) since the rest of the film is looking like Avengers 3: we need RDJ or else our movies don't sell. I do wonder what their long term plan for the Marvel Cinematic Universe is. Previously, audiences have been used to individual series changing actors and switching into alternate universes/reboots. The big thing Marvel has been pushing however is that all their stuff on screen is interconnected. What happens when RDJ quits for good? They recast and tell and a new Iron Man origin story breaking the universe? They just recast Tony Stark and pretend nothing has changed? They retire the character entirely for as long as this cinematic universe continues?
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 05:44 |
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Kevin Feige has said that they would recast the role and carry on like James Bond does with new actors.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 05:55 |
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DoctorWhat posted:Is there a less... labor-intensive archive of this somewhere? Maybe an imgur album (or seven)? Here you go
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 05:57 |
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It's already happened with The Hulk, and also Iron Mans black friend.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 05:58 |
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The RDJ-less movies have done pretty well so far too, he's not integral to the franchise.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 06:02 |
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Doctor Spaceman posted:The RDJ-less movies have done pretty well so far too, he's not integral to the franchise. The most successful non-RDJ MCU film is Guardians, which made $775 million. Iron Man 3 made almost $1.3 billion. It's a fair amount of difference.
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computer parts posted:The most successful non-RDJ MCU film is Guardians, which made $775 million. Iron Man 3 made almost $1.3 billion. It's a fair amount of difference. Yeah, but none of them have been close to flops commercially (except maybe Incredible Hulk?). They obviously want him around (hence the dumptruck of money for Civil War) but the franchise can outlast him.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 06:12 |
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CobiWann posted:If I want superheroes beating the crap out of each other, I'll re-read Kingdom Come. A Kingdom Come adaptation would make for a great movie, I think, probably better than anything DC's actually working on. Since the entire thing was basically a response to the Grimdark Bloodgun style of 90s comics, which is similar to the direction DC's movies have gone in recent years, it'd be fairly good for the time. Admittedly, the time for it to be perfect has passed, since post-Avengers Marvel has been lighter and more optimistic while the Flash show on CW's an indication that at least parts of DC are doing the same. But it would've been perfect for around 2011, and it's still got a place now.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 06:17 |
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I was only half following the conversation and I didn't realise this was a parody until Wolverine showed up.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 06:20 |
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Burkion posted:But for the moment we have a train to catch Gus was fun. I remember at the time people complaining that he was a bit of a ripoff of GLaDOS, but other than the starting concept of "evil AI played for laughs" they take the idea in fairly different directions. And even if GLaDOS was Jamie Matheson's inspiration, that's still a pretty fun inspiration.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 07:30 |
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I am suddenly reminded that the Doctor loafed around this train job for almost 1000 years.
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Grouchio posted:I am suddenly reminded that the Doctor loafed around this train job for almost 1000 years. To be fair, he was stuck on a lovely backwater planet for 900 of them.
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Cleretic posted:A Kingdom Come adaptation would make for a great movie, I think, probably better than anything DC's actually working on. Since the entire thing was basically a response to the Grimdark Bloodgun style of 90s comics, which is similar to the direction DC's movies have gone in recent years, it'd be fairly good for the time. Well, they could pull off an Injustice movie…though that might be the direction the DC Animated Movies are taking. If anything, I’d be intrigued by a Kingdom Come type story where the Doctor comes out of self-imposed exile all “Time Lord Victorious” and says “screw it, I’m making the universe a better place. MY way.”
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 11:35 |
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I want a sincere, honest to the comic, total film adaption of Crisis on Infinite Earths. It would cost all of the money in the world and be the longest thing ever made, but it would also be the best. Hell work in the Marvel heroes, I'm sure with the planet buying sums of money it'd take, you could afford it.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 15:46 |
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I would...make grandiose promises on which I would not deliver for an Astro City series with HBO production values. I have no strong feelings about Civil War except that Mark Millar must never, under any circumstances, be permitted within 100 miles of a Doctor Who script, and that the use of nuclear weapons to prevent this would be justified.
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