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Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

MrL_JaKiri posted:

That's how I post in the regular Doctor Who thread

More people in there should. :v:

(I hate Who a lot less than EPA and a lot more than the megathreads tend to do, so this will be a fun ride.)

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Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

DoctorWhat posted:

Cardiff is a very nice place. Sunlight until 11 PM in the summertime

This is an attribute of all of the UK, including its quarries. I dare say it's actually less true of Cardiff than the quarries, since Cardiff made the poor decision to be in Wales and is therefore more likely to be getting rained on at any given time than the quarries.

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

Oxxidation posted:

David Tennant's tramp-steamer of a career has a lot of theatre roles in it, too. Maybe it's a British thing.

A lot of British acting and acting academies are still predicated on Shakespeare as the pinnacle of drama (I use drama in its broader sense.) At least partly as a result of that, big theatrical runs can be prestigious within the community than TV/film roles, and you'll still find a number of people who get snobby about the small/big screens. It's a very common career path for actors to begin on the stage, grab some bigger roles because of their talent, get picked up for TV and film, and then return to the stage once they've got the money to live like a star anyway - whether that's because they enjoy it more, consider it superior, or want to get more respect off the parts of community that consider it superior.

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.
Speaking of THE FUTURE, how far are you intending 'every episode' to go, exactly? Will you bolt the upcoming series on to the end if you haven't killed yourself by then, or just up to where the show was when the thread started?

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

Captain Fargle posted:

Got to S2 E1 did you?

I'm surprised his reaction was that mild.

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

Mo0 posted:

Sure, you can put Captain Jack into more adult situations, but nobody really needs to see that
I don't know about need, but I'd like to see that. Just in a slightly better way than Torchwood did. :v:

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

Zaggitz posted:

making him cockney
:frogout:

He sounds about a Cockney as a Somerset farmer. If you don't know what it is, don't talk about it. (Similar sentiments for people trying to talk about Rose being a 'chav' and what that means etc)

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.
I always find that Estuary's applied much more broadly than it should be, as a categorisation of accent. People will throw it over great swathes of the South because the accents happen to share that fact of being a bit less posh than RP, ignoring the fact that they have lots of other markers to separate them.

I blame a) Londoners who have never managed to get outside Zone 1, b) Northerners because blaming them is never wrong, and c) foreigners who heard that Estuary is an accent and want to show off that they are aware of something other than cockney and RP.

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.
I think it's 99% about the quality of the imitation, wherever you are. Do it well and no one cares that it isn't your real accent (like, lots of Americans apparently didn't know Hugh Laurie was natively British?); gently caress it up about people will write angry internet posts about how the job should never have been given to a non native/the actor should never have been made to speak in a way they weren't comfortable with. Tennant had very few slips, so there was mostly a collective shrug.

For that other 1% ... probably mostly cancelled out by Tennant being British rather than from anywhere further abroad, and by him doing an accent that, if I wouldn't describe it as a 'default', is at least not particularly specialised. Someone trying on thick West Country or inner Manchester or 'true' Cockney might have been looked at a bit more closely, I guess.

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

Jsor posted:

Once I saw a bunch of British people get into a fight over James Marster's accent as Spike on Buffy. Somehow half of the people thought it was flawless (with some even saying "I couldn't even tell he wasn't native!") and the other half thought it was a trainwreck. :psyduck:
Both are true, to be fair. His first half dozen appearances or so are hilariously forced. Then with time, practice, and the ability to copy off Tony Head (whose own accent is closer to Spike's than Giles'), he improved tremendously. I wouldn't call it flawless, but it ended up as good as I could ask for from someone who hadn't spent a lot of time in England.

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.
Only if you don't ask first.

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

PriorMarcus posted:

Where did I also do it?

Like a month ago. Dude holds a grudge, apparently.

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

PriorMarcus posted:

You're not from the UK are you? I know you travelled over to Cardiff.

Because, look, I totally understand not liking the Olympics and what they do to some countries, and like every major development project the difficulties that arise, but culturally, they really, really were a positive thing for this country.

They did generate a nation wide sense of pride and community, and the increased focus on sports and youth activities is still being pushed to this day. It's something we are very proud of as a nation, and the Doctor carrying the torch might of been bad because it was sappy nonsense, but I don't think it was bad for reasons your attributing to it.

I mean, Christ, there's far more offensive views the Doctor and the series expresses over its run than the Olympics inspiring hope in a nation, especially coming less than a year after we had been bombed following the announcement we would be hosting them.
While seconding all of this, I think it's worth adding that basically all of Britain assumed we were going to gently caress the Games up really badly, right up until somewhere between Romney's gaffe a couple of days before it started (sod off, we'll moan about it but you aren't allowed) and the realisation that Danny Boyle had actually somehow pulled off an opening ceremony we could applaud. Doctor Who expressing some kind of hope about it was pretty crazy at the time, as far as I remember. I'm quite impressed that the positive outlook turned out to be the one 99% of the country would agree with.

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Fear Her was 2006. Worries about the games being ready didn't start until 2011 at the earliest, and July 2012 (so a month before the games) was when the poo poo hit the fan with G4S not having enough staff/mistreating the staff and the generaly stuff about people being moved on/banned from transport.

Nah, pretty sure like the day after we got it, all the nontabloid news outlets were like, "Ooh, we actually get to host the Olympics. Wait, poo poo, we're never going to be able to do this." And basically only news from then until mid-2011 was a perennial report of "We hosed up the budget again."

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

Xenoborg posted:

That's bizarre, they don't have the rights to show it, but they can make a shot by shot remake?

Smart business. Pick up what you can by showing the original, and sell off remake rights to someone else who wants it.

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.
The French are implicitly enemies in every episode.

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

FactsAreUseless posted:

Standard Doctor Who episode (bad thing eats humans). What really brings the pain is the dialogue, which I believe to be part of a CIA MI6 Sir Francis Walsingham experiment to find combinations of words that can be used as enhanced interrogation techniques.

For nationality and (rough) period appropriateness.

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

Toxxupation posted:

A cool and interesting post.
but

Toxxupation posted:

I even had a brief affair with Homestuck that WE WILL NOT TALK ABOUT due to this man.
Oxx, would you please recommend this thing to me, then spill everything about Occupation's time with it? :allears:

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

Oxxidation posted:

There will be a writeup tonight, probably. Of Doctor Who, not Homestuck. Though that could be arranged.

I still want to know about this crazy thing that has the thread freaking out over it. Speak unto me, O great one.

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

Toxxupation posted:

Imagine doctor who but if, when you complained about love and monsters being terrible sexist bullshit, all the doctor who fans jumped down your throat for not understanding a mans beautiful love story between him and a slab of concrete and it was all a joke and you sound like you're concreteamerican-phobic, you know that, I bet you're just complaining because you hate concrete you racist

So, like Doctor Who?

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.
As a Brit, the only time I might really expect it to be remarked on is with an Asian/non-Asian relationship, and even that depends on the portrayal of the Asian family in question. There are some unfortunately ghettoised places in Britain where people get very ... traditional about marriage and keeping it within the subcontinent/their particular part of the subcontinent. Sometimes rather too traditional: there was a study sometime in the last year or so which found the high incidence of first cousin marriages in areas of Bradford had significantly increased the occurence of expressed genetic defects, IIRC.

Oh, or Irish Catholic/Irish Protestant. That would probably warrant at least a brief mention, though it's obviously not so much race being the issue.

That said, while I think most of our mixed relationships pass more or less unremarked upon, I get the gut impression that Davies era Who does have more of them than the average programme does or did. Haven't really thought about it before.

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.
It was the PYF thread, it's already reopened, no one actually cares.

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.
As a person who went to exactly that sort of school, very little different ninety years on, I wouldn't say Redfern was written or acted as "compassionate lady with Old Fashioned Views". That puts too much emphasis on her actual personality, when the position - or the archetype of the position - is what's really being played to: she's very easily identifiable as The Boarding School Matron.

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

Senor Tron posted:

Yeah, a companion being introduced in a Christmas special would be weird, they tend to be one-offs.

This was the Donna post that was drawing the most :golfclap: from me. I really wanted to respond but could not think of a subtle way to do it.

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

SALT CURES HAM posted:

Medicus ex machina?

Doctor is Latin, you scum.

deus ex arca caerula

Caerula is to be preferred as the adjective for blue in this case for connections to the word caelum (caelum -> diminuitive adjectivisation to caelulus -> liquid swap for pronunciation to caerulus/caeruleus). Caelum describes the sky, and thence 'space' for extraterrestrial origins; it is also the home of the gods (often translated as 'heaven' but it doesn't really match up with the Abrahamic idea described by that word), which is appropriate for the subject matter of the phrase.

Sleep of Bronze fucked around with this message at 10:09 on Oct 8, 2014

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

Toxxupation posted:

Who approved that "Chinese whispers" line, because jesus christ that's a racist as gently caress line of dialog, dudes.
Is it that bad? "Chinese whispers" has never been the most fortunate term, but what do you find especially egregious about it here?

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

Jerusalem posted:

(what if the last human being in the universe was a lazy, sloppy scouser).

Tautologous words are redundant. One mark off. :)

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

Party Boat posted:

Craig Charles quit Red Dwarf after season 7, had a brief stint on Corrie and then went to his true calling as a DJ on 6 Music AND NOTHING ELSE AT ALL HAPPENED

e: except robot wars

You are never allowed to forget Robot Wars.

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Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

Craptacular! posted:

Somebody at the BBC must have realized that if they can trick NBC into buying Merlin by meeting the American standards of video production, they could probably crack the market with more properties.

gently caress me, that made it out of the country?

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