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I really enjoyed Raw, but even when I enjoy Raw, 3 hours is just way too long for a weekly show.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 15:39 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 16:51 |
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LividLiquid posted:I love you not in spite of the fact that you're mister positivity, but because of it. Let's start there. To be entirely clear this is often a fine sentiment but someone flying off the handle about Bo loving Dallas losing and actually showing positive character development baffles me. Many weeks, MOST weeks even, there is a thing or multiple things that're worth going "WAIT AND SEE AMIRITE WWE BOOKING IS DUMB" but I don't see where any of those existed this week, which yes, is a rarity! That's part of why I liked it so much! If it was a joke post and I can't read tone for poo poo, that's one thing. I mostly commented on it because the last five GrimGypsy posts I could remember might as well have been copy/pastes of that last post. I wasn't flying off the handle saying "how dare someone besmirch that Raw!", I was genuinely asking what the gently caress because not only does Bo losing not mean poo poo, they actually did something good with it.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 15:40 |
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Christ, people. That was a great Raw. Yea, there was stuff that sucked about it, but it's a three hour show. Not every segment is going to be perfect. Go watch an Attitude Era Raw. There's plenty of dogshit segments on those two hour shows, but the stuff that mattered was great and it was the same way last night. Cena-Cesaro was really good though I expect opinions on that will change now that Lord Meltzer has shared his opinion. The opening promos were good. The final segment was superb. Rusev-Swagger was really good. Paige-AJ was effective. The Bo bit is ultimately meaningless but they needed to give him some life and they absolutely did that here. They built really well to Summerslam. It's going to be like anything else here where some people overrate it and some people underrate it but I'd go so far as to say anyone claiming that Raw was bad is an idiot.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 15:49 |
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I hope people don't sour on that Cena match just because Meltzer did. It was really good and made both guys look strong. And it started because Cesaro dissed Cena's ring gear!
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 15:57 |
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Yeah Raw was good and I was pretty excited for most of it and didn't think that maybe I was gonna fall asleep so I count it as a win. And I really liked the Cesaro/Cena match, even if it was botchy. I'd rather have things mixed up a bit with some energy in it than the same old thing every time
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 15:59 |
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Dave was just saying the main guy in the company shouldn't be making rookie mistakes. Match was fine. Jeez.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:00 |
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weekly font posted:Dave was just saying the main guy in the company shouldn't be making rookie mistakes. Match was fine. Jeez. From what people are saying, it sounds like the guy was getting pretty mad about it. Not really a just saying sitch.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:00 |
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Raw had a major flaw in that it lacked Dean Ambrose who is the best thing in all of wrestling. Other than that it was pretty good. Cena/Cesaro was nice, but not the instant classic their match from February was so it's legit to be a bit disappointed. They really gotta find a big program for Cesaro and soon.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:01 |
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Spikeguy posted:From what people are saying, it sounds like the guy was getting pretty mad about it. Not really a just saying sitch. Well, it happens all the time. Fifteen time champion John Cena decade long veteran of the ring face of the company has been bad at this stuff for a long time and really has no impetus to improve. I dunno why Dave picked tonight to get salty about it though.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:03 |
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Apparently there is now an official BRIE MODE shirt so women can warn you that they're really drunk.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:08 |
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Endless Mike posted:Apparently there is now an official BRIE MODE shirt so women can warn you that they're really drunk. Also a Roman Reigns shirt and a Dean Ambrose shirt. I...don't like either of them, really.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:13 |
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Reigns' shirt is fine but the Ambrose one is lazy as all hell.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:16 |
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Endless Mike posted:Apparently there is now an official BRIE MODE shirt so women can warn you that they're really drunk.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:16 |
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Big Dave is a good news source but when it comes to his reviews and what he did/didn't like I very often disagree with him. The Cena/Cesaro match was great and if he had a problem with it then whatever. Not gonna affect my opinion.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:16 |
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kidcoelacanth posted:Reigns' shirt is fine but the Ambrose one is lazy as all hell. The Ambrose logo is loving perfect though
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:17 |
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kidcoelacanth posted:Reigns' shirt is fine but the Ambrose one is lazy as all hell. I don't mind the design, I just think I could do without the big loving design on the back. Or at least make it smaller.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:18 |
The Ambrose/Reigns shirts suck, but who cares, because they finally got these: http://shop.wwe.com/The-Wyatt-Famil...rt=5&cgid=wyatt
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:19 |
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I like both of the shirts. I mean I'm not blown away by them but as WWE shirts go I think they're solid at worst.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:20 |
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I'd wear the Reigns one but the Ambrose one is boring, which an Ambrose product should never be. The Brie Mode shirt is perfect for your next wine and cheese tasting.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:22 |
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Perigryn posted:That doesn't even make sense. Her name's already Brie. There's no additional amount of Brie she can be to constitute a mode....
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:23 |
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Perigryn posted:That doesn't even make sense. Her name's already Brie. There's no additional amount of Brie she can be to constitute a mode.... Well, duh she is always in Brie mode, and now everyone who wears this shirt can be, too.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:27 |
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TheJoker138 posted:The Ambrose/Reigns shirts suck, but who cares, because they finally got these: "Wear it as is or cut off the sleeves for an authentic Luke Harper look." Cute. Also, don't wash it or shower. Dig the DA logo but the shirt sucks. Roman's logo looks like a butterfly.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:27 |
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I hope Ambrose gets that DA logo sewed into his ring jeans.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:29 |
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or Brie Mode is just a dumb fun thing so who loving cares
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:31 |
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Grendels Dad posted:Well, duh she is always in Brie mode, and now everyone who wears this shirt can be, too. She doesn't get Brie, she stays Brie.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:32 |
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Endless Mike posted:That doesn't make any less sense than Hulk Hogan Hulking up, but in any case, Total Divas explained to use that BRIE MODE is when Brie gets really, really drunk, though the announcers have been trying to co-opt it to her version of the former meaning. If she had a Drunken Master gimmick, it'd work. And now that they have a Twisted Tea sponsorship, they can probably work that in...
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:33 |
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What did Big Dave say about the match? I thought it was great.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:36 |
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Atticus Finch posted:What did Big Dave say about the match?
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:38 |
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Atticus Finch posted:What did Big Dave say about the match? He thought it was a sloppy match and Cena looked really bad, but he also recognized that it told a good story and that the crowd was hot for it. Perigryn posted:Audible move calling, Cena insisting on doing moves he's not able to, etc Yeah, and he also noted that Cena's timing was way off. I personally didn't see Cena's moves as being really sloppier than normal, but something was definitely off with the timing of several of the spots in that match.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:39 |
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Cena's hurricanrana was hilarious.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:51 |
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I liked the Cena Cesaro match except for a couple times where it looked sloppy as hell. Also John Cena should not be doing hurricanranas and monkey flips. Please stick to the powerbombs. That was awesome. I also did not care for Brie Stephanie. It wasn't horrible it's just not something I care about or want to see I liked Raw this week though overall! The tag match and Jericho-Rollins were good and so was the Sagger-Rusev battle and Naomi's crazy leg finisher submission thing.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:52 |
Abu Dave posted:Cena's hurricanrana was hilarious. The weird thing about that hurricanrana is he's done it before without botching and it's looked way, way better.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:55 |
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TheJoker138 posted:The weird thing about that hurricanrana is he's done it before without botching and it's looked way, way better. It has always looked like poo poo IMO. That was by far the worst one though. That spot looked like something from a Divas match.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:57 |
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TheJoker138 posted:The weird thing about that hurricanrana is he's done it before without botching and it's looked way, way better. Yeah, it's one of his BIG MATCH moves. He's actually very good at it. Last night was weird. He was busting out the poo poo he normally doesn't do to further the story from the promos. "You can't wrestle." "I'll wrestle circles around you." But that doesn't forgive him doing it sloppy. It was a good story but not that well executed.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:57 |
sportsgenius86 posted:It has always looked like poo poo IMO. That was by far the worst one though. That spot looked like something from a Divas match. Oh, it's never looked GREAT, but it hasn't ever looked like he just broke his drat neck trying to do it like this one did, either.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:58 |
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The flying body Cesaro did that I imagine Cena was supposed to catch mid air but botched it was real bad too.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 17:00 |
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Big Dave spitting the real. Cena embarrassed and exposed himself because of his hubris.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 17:02 |
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I kind of like this Brie/Steph feud because the two are acting like they actually hate each other. If their match starts out with a lock up I'll be really disappointed...
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 17:03 |
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Astro7x posted:I kind of like this Brie/Steph feud because the two are acting like they actually hate each other. If their match starts out with a lock up I'll be really disappointed... Brie Bella and Stephanie McMahon: Wrestlers noted for working off the collar and elbow tie. In all seriousness, I hope Brie starts adopting Bryan's move set. That would be cool.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 17:06 |
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One thing I liked about the opener is that it made Cesaro look like more of a credible threat. There's no way he'd be going over Cena this close to Summerslam, but he cut a great promo with Paul Heyman and it's cool to see him lasting a while in the ring and getting near-falls on the champ after losses against Ambrose and a whole sheaf of midcarders, and losing in the battle royale. Shame the match itself was sloppy. I hope this isn't wishful thinking on my part and they're just making him look like a slightly-more-capable jobber. Really liked this week, last week put me to sleep so that makes this one better for me for sure.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 17:07 |