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VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

It's all addiction or mental illness and it's usually both. They've typically either been given 100 chances and hosed them up by the family/friends or they just took off and the family/friend network doesn't know where they are.

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VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

Fandyien posted:

imo if someone being mentally ill / addicted to drugs undermines your sympathy for their plight as a homeless person you're a real piece of poo poo.

Meh. There are tons of programs for them here in Canada and we pay a ton of money towards it and very few people even give it a shot.

e: Also the same demographic overlaps with people who break into cars etc so meh.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

Fandyien posted:

is it because people don't want to get help or because there's a systemic/social problem stopping them from receiving that help though? it's almost never the former

Honestly the same personality traits (impulsivity, neuroticism, etc) that predispose someone to drug addiction (or addiction of any kind) lend themselves also to very poor rehab success rates. This isn't even to mention the number of homeless people with varying types of schizophrenia which is also very strongly genetically linked. I think 90% of these people want to just snap their fingers and not have the problems that they do but the thought of never achieving the high that they hit with w/e drug is completely out of the question to them. Conversely, the intense discomfort of being sober is also out of the question. To put it in perspective it'd be like someone telling you that you'd never have an orgasm again.

For what it's worth I have actually studied this and work in healthcare and live in the most homeless city in my country.

e: Here in Vancouver, before or during the olympics we had free 1-way ferry trips to the island just off the coast and made it legal to 'camp' in public parks there so that the news media wouldn't show everyone our homeless.

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