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Coal is the bane of my life. I need steel for like 1000 things. And gears, that are made from steel. To build my steamworks I need steel and more steal. Then I need steel to make the printing press to make the manuscripts to research friggin theology.
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The manuscript income from printing presses is really minor unless you're idling for days on end. Culture and catpower are easy to get and all you need to make manuscripts.
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Aug 6, 2014 21:47
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If you need manuscripts then put a shitload of kittens on hunting duty and crank out Workshops.
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Aug 6, 2014 21:50
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Does the steamworks even do anything without any upgrades?
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Aug 6, 2014 22:54
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FirstPersonShitter posted:Does the steamworks even do anything without any upgrades? Nope. Much later on it provides a bonus to another building. Otherwise they just devour your coal doing gently caress all.
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Aug 6, 2014 22:55
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Ugh. Adventure Capitalist keeps sucking me back in. I'm still on the lower end (1 trillion angels) but I can already see that I'm getting diminishing returns from the resets. It's hilariously fast to get back to where I was, but then I barely make any progress before I reset again (and that's even with making a rule to myself that I never reset unless I know I'm at least doubling or more my current angel investor stock). I think it's time to quit the game again
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Aug 7, 2014 02:38
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Are purchases that cost Angel Investors permanent?
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Aug 7, 2014 02:43
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No, but they're worth it. I just got to the point where I can buy all the upgrades but getting all the achievements is going to take a while.
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Aug 7, 2014 02:48
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dis astranagant posted:The manuscript income from printing presses is really minor unless you're idling for days on end. Culture and catpower are easy to get and all you need to make manuscripts. On the other hand, later on you really don't want to go through a crafting chain of furs --> parchment --> manuscripts --> compendiums --> blueprints. FirstPersonShitter posted:Does the steamworks even do anything without any upgrades? Yes, they do! They reduce your coal income by 80%.  Dr. Arbitrary posted:Are purchases that cost Angel Investors permanent? You lose those upgrades when you reset, but you are not refunded the angels you spent.
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Aug 7, 2014 02:50
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RickVoid posted:Ugh. Adventure Capitalist keeps sucking me back in. I'm still on the lower end (1 trillion angels) but I can already see that I'm getting diminishing returns from the resets. It's hilariously fast to get back to where I was, but then I barely make any progress before I reset again (and that's even with making a rule to myself that I never reset unless I know I'm at least doubling or more my current angel investor stock). 1 trillion is the low end? gently caress, I only have 3,000 and I thought I was going good.
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Aug 7, 2014 04:18
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Are purchases that cost Angel Investors permanent? Nope! When you reset you lose them, and those angels are gone. I've had fairly good success for some time with a 'reset every day or two' strategy - idling for a long time so that when I reset I get back the angels I spent on upgrades and then some, and avoiding the pricier angel upgrades. The game will now no longer ask for confirmation that you want to spend angels unless you're spending more than 1% of your total angels, so my rule of thumb has been to not worry about any angel-priced upgrade that it doesn't ask me for confirmation on, and then buy the cheapest one that it does want confirmation on (which, at this point, is the most expensive one anyways... but I digress). AdVenture Capitalist really benefits by being largely ignorable, and I highly recommend that, once you've gotten all the spending done that you're going to get done without waiting an hour or three, you should proceed to ignore it. Make it a daily check-in kind of game rather than one you feel like you have to have running all the time. (74 Sextillion Angels and I'm still staring at that stupid Newspaper cost in disbelief, Jesus those costs are too high) Spaced God posted:1 trillion is the low end? gently caress, I only have 3,000 and I thought I was going good. You almost certainly are doing good, but you'll do better. 
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Aug 7, 2014 04:35
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:(74 Sextillion Angels and I'm still staring at that stupid Newspaper cost in disbelief, Jesus those costs are too high) Newspapers are insane. I think a big part of the problem with them (and the cause for the crazy scaling) is the insane number of acheivements tied to it. I get the logic behind it (ad promotion and coupon synergies providing increased sales at no/low expense because you own both, in abstract), but I really think those bonuses would be better spread among the other investments. Of course, that would shorten the game, and we can't have that.
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Aug 7, 2014 05:09
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Lottery of Babylon posted:On the other hand, later on you really don't want to go through a crafting chain of furs --> parchment --> manuscripts --> compendiums --> blueprints. You should never craft blueprints. Get your gold income up and trade that poo poo, you need the titanium (and later the iron) anyway. You might wind up with a decent income from printing presses once you hit electricity but that's a long way from where these guys are.
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Yeah, early on you should only turn on steamworks if you have the upgrades for them and are idling for 3+ hours. If you are actively monitoring the game at all (every 30-40 minutes or so) then you should have it off. I really like catte game for that reason, you can really balance your incomes so you can come back at a certain time and everything is capped, spend 2 minutes buying what you want, and ignore it again. OR you can set everything up to idle hardcore (once you get steamworks and high caps) and ignore it for a day or two. Also the 3rd tier resources are bullshit, 2500 slabs for concrete fuuuuccckkk. OTOH I finally churned though the 50k slabs I had sitting around but I could have had so much more banked if I knew it was coming.
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Aug 7, 2014 05:34
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On the bright side, once you get concrete you're one upgrade away from resetting with roughly +20% happiness, +50% all production rates and +5% storage.
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Aug 7, 2014 05:45
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Nope! When you reset you lose them, and those angels are gone. I don't understand how spending 10k angels on a 3x multiplier is a good thing. Aren't 10k angels the same as a base +200% multiplier? I bought it (after exporting my save) and drat if it isn't a big difference, but... what the hell am I missing?
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Aug 7, 2014 07:13
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Ignoranus posted:I don't understand how spending 10k angels on a 3x multiplier is a good thing. Aren't 10k angels the same as a base +200% multiplier? I bought it (after exporting my save) and drat if it isn't a big difference, but... what the hell am I missing? I think that it's in a different column for multiplication. If you had 20k angels, you'd have a +400%, but if you buy the 3x multiplier, you'd be at 200% * 3 = 600%
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Aug 7, 2014 07:16
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Angels add together, upgrades multiply. Dropping 200% off your +1000% or whatever angel bonus to get a 3x multiplier upgrade puts you to +1700%.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I think that it's in a different column for multiplication. If you had 20k angels, you'd have a +400%, but if you buy the 3x multiplier, you'd be at 200% * 3 = 600% dis astranagant posted:Angels add together, upgrades multiply. Dropping 200% off your +1000% or whatever angel bonus to get a 3x multiplier upgrade puts you to +1700%. Damnit. I knew it was something straightforward that I was overlooking. Thanks!
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Aug 7, 2014 07:19
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Actually +2600% but you get the point. I slapped an extra zero somewhere when I subtracted out the base 100%.
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These games are great. Right now I "play" Derivative and Cattes at work and investors at home. Not gotten very far in Cattes, building up my resources to research Astronomy. The other two are just for numbers so there I don´t care about progress really. I have a question about Prestige in Derivative since I just did my first reset to unlock T5. Do I understand it right that the currency you have left in one tier sets a multiplier for the next reset on that tier? Does this mean it is a good idea to save up in one tier, or should I aim to do one per tier in order? And I got 66 T1 currency and unlocked T5 so I have 56 left, and it tells me I can gain 11 T2 currency. How does that work? Do I get that if I reset at T1 or at t2? milward fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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dis astranagant posted:On the bright side, once you get concrete you're one upgrade away from resetting with roughly +20% happiness, +50% all production rates and +5% storage. Wow, those are some nice bonuses. I just researched Nuclear Fission and I'm at about 150 kitties, is it worth resetting now? milward posted:These games are great. Right now I "play" Derivative and Cattes at work and investors at home. Reset currency applies its multiplier to the effects of all buildings at that tier. It does not multiply future reset currency gains. When you reset at tier 3, all your T2 currency gets converted into T3 currency at a 5:1 conversion ratio, then all your T1 currency gets converted into T2 currency at a 5:1 conversion ratio, then you gain T1 currency based on the proofs/mathematicians you've produced this game. Any other reset currency you already had that wasn't converted (e.g. T3 and above) stays where it is. Where you are now, your options are to reset at tier 1 (adding your new tier 1 currency to your existing tier 1 currency) or to reset at tier 2 or higher (turning 55 of your tier 1 currency into 11 tier 2 currency, and adding your new tier 1 currency to your 1 leftover tier 1 currency).
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Wow, those are some nice bonuses. I just researched Nuclear Fission and I'm at about 150 kitties, is it worth resetting now? My numbers are for around 120 kittens. The happiness bonus has strong diminishing returns, not sure about the production/storage one. The happiness bonus is called Karma and is a rare resource so you get 10 happiness just for having it and it also gives 1 per point. At 152 kittens you'll get 12 karma, which is first available at 35 kittens. The other bonus is called Paragon and gives 1% global production and .1% storage per point. It seems to be simply 1 per kitten past 69 and is not a rare resource. dis astranagant fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Wow, those are some nice bonuses. I just researched Nuclear Fission and I'm at about 150 kitties, is it worth resetting now? Ooh I see, so it always fills "from the top up" with a 5:1 conversion and then the gains from the current run lands on T1. Next goal is to reset with 500 T1 currency then so I can get T6 after the T2 reset after that. Thanks.
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Spaced God posted:1 trillion is the low end? gently caress, I only have 3,000 and I thought I was going good. Doing well
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What do i have to research before I can get the concrete hut upgrades? I just finished archaeology.
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TTBF posted:What do i have to research before I can get the concrete hut upgrades? I just finished archaeology. Electricity and Mechanization.
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Aug 7, 2014 18:33
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Is this where I bitch about Scaffolds? Holy poo poo gently caress Scaffolds. 
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Depressing Drawers posted:I can't believe no mention of Progress Quest yet. Progress Quest seriously needs a browser-only version
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gradenko_2000 posted:Progress Quest seriously needs a browser-only version Browser only(?)
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How do I unlock ziggurats in the kitten game? the wiki lists construction as the only requirement, and I've had that for ages.
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FirstPersonShitter posted:How do I unlock ziggurats in the kitten game? the wiki lists construction as the only requirement, and I've had that for ages. Have you made any Megaliths? Some stuff won't show up until you have a certain percent of the required materials for the first one.
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dis astranagant posted:Yeah, but the amount per trade keeps increasing and ships boost your storage eventually so you're never going to be done with the stupid things. But I guess I'll see when I get back up there, paragon and karma make a huge difference. Not sure if there's any more techs for star charts yet but there's talk of space travel that will probably need them. neongrey posted:Related to a new change where there's a high-end tech that will automatically and silently handle the astronomical events for you. So... you have a 1% chance per Observatory to snag rare astronomical events as they expire (doesn't seem to require any tech, just having Observatories). In my mind this confirms that starcharts are going to be part of later research.
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It's assumed that star charts are going to be used for space travel, which will be the next major version.
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FirstPersonShitter posted:How do I unlock ziggurats in the kitten game? the wiki lists construction as the only requirement, and I've had that for ages. Yeah you need 2 megaliths before the option shows up.
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For everyone thinking "I'm almost done!" with AdVenture Capitalist:quote:
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It's probably a "Hide unlocked Upgrades" button. But still, I can hear all of my free time boiling away at an even faster rate.
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That's been the requested feature, yeah. Luckily I'm at the point where being a Capitalist doesn't take much time at all - I play for an hour or so post-reset, then let it sit for ages. I finally hit the '1000 of each item' stage, so it takes hours and hours for me to afford anything anyways; still, I thought I was coming close to the end! Dammit.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:That's been the requested feature, yeah. I'm just breaking the quadrillion barrier. 
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I think I'm done with Cattegame. The reset bonuses make it feel worse because I can't idle for anything but bars don't fill up fast enough to actively play.
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