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Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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One thing that has to be said about Allegri is that he managed to get fired from Berlusconi's Milan mid season, something that rarely (if ever?) happened before.

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Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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The president of CONI (Italian Olympic Committee) met with Albertini, ex player and main opponent of Tavecchio for the FIGC presidency. It should be noted that while several clubs withdrew their support of Tavecchio following his "controversial" remarks, they didn't openly announce their support to Albertini.

What I hope? Albertini wins, bringing a young president and a man of sport to the presidency.
What I fear will happen? Tavecchio wins, and FIGC gets an old racist shithead as president. Though he was right about one thing, there are too few italian players in the Serie A, or at least in some teams.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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pik_d posted:

What exactly is the dividing line between the north and south? Do you have your own mason-dixon line as such?

Technically, the south is the old "Regno delle Due Sicilie", which comprised all or parts of Abruzzo, Basilicata, Calabria, Campania, Molise, Puglia and Sicilia. Some don't consider Abruzzo south, whereas some others distinguish Sicily from south proper.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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Gigi Galli posted:

It's confirmed by Santos

Im so happy

Im crying

The primavera of Atalanta has better players than Robinho, I know it because I can see the field where they train when I go home from work.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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You don't get 60% of the votes by wanting to make a revolution, and especially if your voters are rich and risk adverse old men.
Not that Albertini was a great alternative. One thing Tavecchio is right about, the Serie A has too few italian players.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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Let's be honest, I don't think that Italy will have a team able to win a Champions' League in the immediate future. When your A-list players break or are tired and the second line is made up of primavera players or loans from the Società Polisportiva Minchiarotta you can't win the Champions and have at the same time a good result in the championship.

Let's not forget that this year's Milan and Inter sucked dog balls. Milan's performance was so bad that in fact I stopped following football after February, and never really considered Juventus' title in doubt; I only followed some of Atalanta due to the fact that a few friends of mine work for Percassi and Atalanta is a pretty big deal here.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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A forum for Inter followers must be the saddest thing after the anime subforum we have here.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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canepazzo posted:

The biggest signing so far has been Morata; Iturbe just changed clubs within Serie A. Our top goalscorer left for Germany for not even 20m. Majority of the players signed so far are on a free, on a loan, or exchanges.

Serie A is that poo poo.

E: Cuadrado not called up for Saturday's friendly. Buena suerte Juan :(

It's not really that but the mixed effects of a few things:
1) new taxation rules for sponsors
2) someone ran the costs/benefits ratios of sponsoring football and was shown that it didn't pay
3) less money circulating
4) those with money actually investing in serious enterprises rather than stupid poo poo.
5) new rules concerning debts and assets of football clubs.

Anyway, in the 2000s Moratti, Agnelli and Berlusconi outdid each other spending money on players who were frankly terrible. Moratti's family told him that they didn't want to pay for his toy anymore and sold the team to an ADTRW goon; Agnelli with their industrial policies can't spend lavishly on football unless they want Street riots, and Berlusconi needs to pay for his divorce and has to deal with dwindling advertisement revenues from his media empire.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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Well, it isn't a mystery that Serie A was used to launder money until a few years ago. That was the case of third and fourth line sponsors, of course, not the ones you see on jerseys or while they do interviews.

The 3 names I mentioned are the owners or past owners of Milan, Inter and Juventus. Roma went through some troubles too, and so did Lazio. Genoese teams are too "poor" to afford a deep roster. Thorir's Internazionale is the only team that could spend more money than the others, without image drawbacks. You can't fire workers from your factories and spend on football players (Juventus, but also in part AC Milan).

Sport sponsorships in general have been put under the scrutiny of the Agenzia delle entrate, the Irs of Italy, and they're finding a lot of irregularities.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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The guardia di finanza are the fiscal police unit, they don't go for small fishes usually. More likely it's the Agenzia delle entrate conducting their searches.

I know this because I'm a commercialista, by the way :v:

Sport sponsorships used to be dirty business at every level and in every sport, but obviously the Serie A took the lion's share.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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canepazzo posted:

Back to calling you all terroni.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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I'm glad he's gone, Serie A is too poo poo for him nowadays. Let us hope he doesn't become a Cassano 2.0 about to become great but always falling short.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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Gigi Galli posted:

In other Coppa Italia news, Avellino striker Gianmario Comi did a Suarez on Bari striker Giuseppe De Luca and when the ref didn't spot it, De Luca became furious and got sent off for screaming at the ref. Bari's manager Devis Mangia was sent off for the same reason. Bari were up 1-0 when this happened.

4 minutes later Comi himself scored the tying goal and Avellino ended up winning late on when they scored another.

Bari's owner posted a picture of De Luca's arm on twitter and lmao

https://twitter.com/fcb1908/status/503295608971878401



Terrone on terrone violence, whoever wins we win.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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Inzaghi said that losing Balotelli is good for the team as a whole. I don't know why so many people hate the guy but so many people can't be completely wrong.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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Because he has a 4 year contract, and it expires in 2015. He needs to play or his card will be sold for a bag of Pringles.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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That's likely, but Milan needs to reduce their expenditure on wages, so I wouldn't worry about it. Under the skin, the big problem between Galliani and Berlusconi Jr was that the former kept a roster too wide and too full of overpaid scarponi del cazzo.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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The shadenfreude is perceivable in the streets of Bergamo this morning.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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At this pace we'll be looking soon with envy at the belgian championship :italy:

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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It's not that simple, as I said in another post, due to political implications it isn't easy for at least two of the top teams to invest in football right now, Juventus and Milan. You can't lay off employees for the crisis and then spend millions on a player, which is what the Agnelli family (FIAT) did and what Berlusconi will probably do.
About Thorir and Pallotta, yeah, it's amazing how "little" they are spending. Inter was used to spending a shitload of cash before the season, and now there's one less reason to mock Inter supporters :(

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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Man I almost forgot what was it to see Milan win a game, also, inter can suck my hairy balls.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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Ewar Woowar posted:

I thought Milan got rid of Pato?

:vince:

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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Off topic, but am I the only one that every now and then reads "Panecazzo" instead of "Canepazzo"?
And as long as Galliani and Barbara Berlusconi share the helm of Milan, there will be trouble, I fear.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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On the other hand, most Ultras group are criminals and the italian law enforcement should be way more cruel with them.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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You can buy tickets online easily, but not for the guests' side (you need a thing called tessera del tifoso for that), but it's Napoli anyway so no one would really like to go there.

To get to the stadium you can get a taxi, Milan isn't very large, or you can catch a metro train from Centrale Station to Lotto metro station and grab a shuttle bus provided by the stadium, which will land you directly to the stadium.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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Being an accountant, it does make sense, in the sense that it's easier to bail out if one of the two enterprises goes into the shitter and the other doesn't. It also means that he can hold Roma's balls more easily.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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If the stadium is owned by another company, you certainly pay rent, even if the team and the stadium companies' are themselves owned by the same parent company. They're just infra-company transfers.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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Was out eating with some friends on the walls of Bergamo and there were some TVs showing the Italy-Netherlands game. The girlfriend of one asked why there was a boy on the field. It was Verratti :cawg:

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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Zaza owns

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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Yeah ok remember when Italy scored one then never left its half? This one felt different. OK, it was Norway, but still.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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That's a broken link that redirects to some hosting company, canepazzo.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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The broken link is better than that poo poo lol

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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gently caress Allegri. Now that he's at Juve, he starts winning. What a jerk.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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I was diving and I missed the game, but from what I've heard Milan played terribly anyway. Berlusconi made one of his half joking, half "you're hosed if you don't do what I say" declarations.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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Bonera? Here is a list of good things about Bonera:
1) he didn't join the SS during the second world war
2) he isn't G. W. Bu$h
3) he isn't the archbishop arrested in Vatican city for being a pedophile.

Does this warrant a spot in AC Milan? According to someone, this is enough. He should be in AC Milan, where AC stays for air conditioning and he spends his time fixing broken vents instead of sucking dicks on a field.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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Another terrible year ahead :smith:

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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This isn't even a case of little money being put into the team, rather, a mismanagement of the money. As long as Milan is effectively guided by two conflicting individuals, it's not going to improve.

Remember a few years ago when we had huge international names and you could recognize them and immediately see them on the field? While nowadays you have Bonera and Mexes. Their mere presence in Milan is worthy at least one Ancelotti raised eyebrow on a scale that goes from zero to one Ancelotti raised eyebrows. It's a lot of eyebrows, in other words.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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Speaking of Bonera, this old article might give us a reason why he's finding a spot in Milan's starting 11? http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Serie-A/Milan/22-05-2014/milan-rissa-amelia-bonera-inaugurazione-nuova-sede-80732613929.shtml
For the non-italian speakers, it's an article about a discussion in may between Bonera and Amelia. Bonera was supposedly against Seedorf and siding with the society.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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Dilkington posted:

Bonera stadium there are no toilets, you hang your rear end over the railing and poo poo directly on to the field.


In unrelated news:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7clSlIXxBZo

me irl:

Trapattoni's german is incredibly bad, but here's a literal translation into italian if you want: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cgLqfdAgK4

Cippalippus fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Sep 27, 2014

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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The only reason why Bonera should be that close to a field is to mow the lawn.

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Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

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trem_two posted:

He's been fun to watch today too, if you hate Inter.

(which we all do)

I hate inter

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