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Florida State Seminoles, now with new music video Headlining the premiere college football conference is the reigning champion, #1 Florida State! Sat, Aug 30 Oklahoma State || (95%) Sat, Sept 6 Citadel || (100%) Sat, Sept 20 Clemson || (92%) Sat, Sept 27 NC State || (94%) Sat, Oct 4 Wake Forest || (100%) Sat, Oct 11 Syracuse || (100%) Sat, Oct 18 Notre Dame || ( 90% ) Thu, Oct 30 Louisville || (92%) Sat, Nov 8 Virginia || (100%) Sat, Nov 15 Miami (FL) || (94%) Sat, Nov 22 Boston College || (99%) Sat, Nov 29 Florida || (89%) ACC Championship (>90%) Units: QB: Owns. won Heisman. Backup Sean Maguire is good. RB: Owns, might need some polish in pass protection. Starter is huge fast guy Karlos Williams OL: Owns except center. Center could be bad. FB: Owns. WR: Owns but needs a couple freshmen to step up for depth reasons. Dependable and talented, but a bit thin. TE: Owns but keeps getting into motorcycle accidents. "Doesn't wear gloves/is old school/grandpa plays golf" Big Losses: WRs Benjamin, Shaw , RB Freeman/Wilder, FB Abram DL: Owns. DE Mario Edwards tossed around 2nd overall pick Greg Robinson in the championship game. Depth is thin at end. DT is absurd. LB: Very good but a bit inexperienced. Only one starter returned (terrance smith) but the other new starters, Thomas and Eligwe played exceptionally when in. Secondary: Best in nation. Everyone's great and everything owns here. Starter Tyler Hunter got injured early on last season and is healthy now, will lead unit. Big Losses: DC Pruitt (went to UGA), DT Jernigan/McDaniel/McAllister, LB Jones/Smith, DB Joyner/Brooks Punter: Sucks. KR: Owns PR: Named Bobo. Is good. K: Owns. Only missed one kick all year. Won Groza as freshman. Hype Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PFcDSv18qA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9LH2iwcaOw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXJe0-QFpC8 Spring Game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRYo-doqtSQ About the Team: First year DC, former S coach at Alabama Jeremy Pruitt got off to a bit of a slow start at Florida State before everything clicked in the middle of last year's boston college game. FSU would end up totally 25+ interceptions, and something absurd like 7 different players on defense scoring TDs. Some stuff kinda happened and he dipped to UGA, where he calls their players fat and lazy. This lead to the ascension of LB coach Charles Kelly, who promises minimal changes in the scheme. That said, FSU's defense had vocal, passionate, smart leadership at every unit - how the defense fills that void is a bit in question, but the alleged consistency should keep a strong trajectory, especially with such a strong, deep secondary. Jimbo Fisher finally stopped micromanaging last year and let the coaches coach. He's lost weight, gotten focused, hit the trail, and transformed much of the culture with the team. Players are active on instagram and whatever, almost posting every day pictures and video, where whole units get together and go over the play book, route trees, etc. under the tutelage of the seniors. Also they make videos of them racing each other. Everyone's absurdly fast and it makes me happy. Team has almost 0 issue with motivation for repeating. Facilities and dorms have seen big upgrades as well. Best Case Scenario: Repeat as champions. Pretty straight forward. Expected Scenario: Make it to inaugural championship game. Dunno who we play because all the other top teams seemed to have a good bit of turnover in important positions or had coaching issues that were not quite addressed. Worst Case Scenario: Somehow drop 3 games in the season, players get injured, and don't win the ACC. ESPN had our odds on a graphic on a game by game basis and had our most likely loss being Miami at ~11% so we feel pretty confident about our schedule. pillsburysoldier fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Aug 3, 2014 |
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Would a watch list for players who you'd expect to leave for the NFL after this year be within the scope of this thread?
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Florida State NFL Watch List Offense R-So QB - Jameis Winston Yeah he's polarizing and NFL teams absolutely won't care unless something comes up this year. His first outing as a Fr starter led to 40 Passing TDs, 4 Rushing TDs, 10 INTs. He accumulated 4000+ passing yards while often not playing past halfway through the 3rd quarter. If there's a knock on his play, it's how long he holds on to the ball, getting sacked 27 times. He gets a bit greedy and doesn't take the check-down as much as he should, opting to wait for one of our WRs to get open, which is pretty understandable when your WRs are Kelvin Benjamin, Rashad Greene, and Kenny Shaw, and your OL has played together their whole careers. In the pocket, he moves incredibly well, feels the rush incredibly well, is light on his feet, stands tall, and seemingly never gets rattled. An example is a play during the pitt game. Off a play action, he turned the wrong way on the fake hand-off while everyone went the other way. He calmly turns around and delivers a great ball to a shallow cross without any sort of happy feet or anxiety. He's strong, sloughing off even direct hits and is very comfortable with his size and moving his mass, if that makes sense. He can run considerably fast as well. He also runs like he's pregnant. He's a bit inconsistent from game-to-game, depending on the weight of the game. He'll be a bit lackadaisical on the offset for games like Nevada. That usually doesn't last long, but it's a bit of a criticism nonetheless. He's deadly accurate and absorbs a ton of material very quickly. He also throws well in context - balls are delivered where they need to be with appropriate velocity, rarely in such a way where the WR is surprised or at a disadvantage. His throwing motion has a bit of wind-up from his baseball participation. He also said in interviews that he's usually throwing off his back foot as well, or otherwise off balance, and correcting that is a big aspect of this offseason. Much has been made about his promise to return a season after this one, because getting his degree is incredibly important to him and his family. I post highlights all the time, so here's a cut of his all his completions in context of downs and distances https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoL-z7evdkQ You can see a ton of route concepts (a lot of smash combos. we love smash combos/hi-lo concepts) that demand different timings and manipulations of the safety, be it with attacking him with an inside receiver or eye movement from the QB. Tricky dude, very savvy. Sr RB - Karlos Williams He was the top safety in the high school class and younger brother of current Steelers LB Vince Williams. He's an absolute freak athlete, ridiculously fast for his size. He also called Saban short to rivals or something so that's cool. Anyway, a theme in Jimbo-era FSU has been repurposing talent. Safety/RB Lonnie Pryor becomes a standout fullback, Xavier Rhodes plays WR in high school, becomes a first round corner at FSU, pretty good DT Cam Erving finds himself as a top LT prospect after year 2 at FSU. Karlos played some safety early on, but just couldn't put things together all that well mentally, even though he had some sexy pick 6's if memory serves. So a little about him as a RB. He's 225 lbs, 6'1, has a penchant for long runs. On 91 attempts, he has 730 yards and 11 TDs, playing behind two would-be NFL RBs in Devonta Freeman and James Wilder. He cuts well and he has very rapid feet - he can make short strides to decelerate and cut very well. He negotiates traffic really well but doesn't quite do much juking, so to speak. He'll put on a move with his feet to get a defender to take an angle gives Williams the advantage, but Shady McCoy he is not (who is?). He sees color very well for someone who has one year of RB experience so there's amazingly little wear-and-tear on him. One knock on him is his catching out of the backfield. You'll notice he has to really look the ball in in the couple plays where he's asked to catch, and isn't asked to catch the ball with a defender on him very often. We do ask him to do kick returns though - a task that typically asks for really fast guys to follow blocking and read lanes and such as they develop (instead of PR which asks you to do it immediately and accelerate very, very quickly) There really aren't a lot of Karlos Williams Highlights so I'll just repost the one from my first post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxlNttAut2E Sr WR - Rashad Greene There was talk last year of Kelvin Benjamin being Jameis's security blanket. In reality, that security blanket was Rashad Greene. What Jameis does naturally at QB, Greene does as naturally at WR. He has incredible hands and body control, but he also has very good body awareness. He knows where he is, he knows where his defender (well, seemingly any defender around him) is, and he very naturally contorts and adjusts himself to avoid direct hits while simultaneously boxing out his defender. When you combine this with the fluidity he plays with, his cleverness is getting his man to bite very hard on subtle moves, and has really deceptive acceleration, he's virtually uncoverable. There's really no knock on him besides that he's kinda thin at 180lbs, 6'0 even. His measureables won't wow NFL scouts but his tape absolutely should. He is positioned to shatter the FSU WR records this year. Career: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtohW3xWIN0 2013:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyFQ99jHSlU Sr TE - Nick O'Leary He had entertained the idea of leaving his Jr. year because EJ sucked, but found new life with competent QBing by Jameis. Jameis went to him early and often last year, but kinda backed off on him a bit as the rest of the offense gelled. He's 6'3 and 238 lbs. He came back this year to try to get himself into the top 2 rounds for the draft. A lot of FSU fans scoff when he's mentioned because it's always followed up by just how old school he is, but gently caress, he's a very serious, very tactile player. He's not particularly vocal, but he plays angry. He doesn't use gloves and he likes to run people over. He's an accomplished route runner in his own right and very dependable/natural in catching the ball with great body control. We don't really keep him on to pass block, but he's always been a good run blocker. He'll probably put on a little more weight. Absolutely not a freak like Ebron, but has more than enough athleticism and a very work-hard attitude. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BypZBiH6-N4 R-Sr LT - Cam Erving Sr LG - Josue Matias Sr RG - Tre Jackson Sr RT - Bobby Hart I can't quite say much about them individually because I have very little idea what to look for in terms of OL evaluation. Erving is a repurposed DT with incredible feet and is tentatively slated as the top LT in the nation. Two of the four (likely Erving and Jackson) are All-America candidates. They're all road graders and violent blockers. They're also deceptively fast, not just quick - on more than on long screen plays, they were able to keep pace with Devonta Freeman for 30 or so yards. Bobby Hart is very young - he entered college just turning 17 years old. For pass blocking, check out the Jameis reel. For Run Blocking, check out williams highlight, and here are Freeman and Wilder as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxiKpKVb-80 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhctoSPJsf0 Match-ups with projected star DL: Clemson (DE Vic Beasley, apparently some DT returns and is good too. Jarrett something?) Florida (iunno but they tend to be pretty good along the line. Last year they played well too) Miami (DE Chickillo isn't bad and I kinda liked their rush end Muhammad. Their front seven is pretty experienced too) Pitt* (DT Aaron Donald  )Wake Forest* (DT Nikita Whitlock is a dick and kept hitting the QBs late but that little guy was quick as hell) Auburn* (DE Dee Ford and LB Kris Frost were good if I'm remembering correctly. DT Gabe Wright wasn't bad either) * last year Defense Jr DE - Mario Edwards. He's the best DE in the country at setting the edge. He's absolutely huge and tosses OL around, and is pretttttty much our best player on defense. He collapses the pocket well, flows towards the ball in run plays exceptionally well, is a total freak athletically, and has pretty great football instincts. He's not a sack artist unfortunately, so he's not quite sexy in that sense to most people watching, but every other aspect is superb. This is a money year, so he might just turn that around. He's 6'3, 290 lbs Against Auburn's Greg Robinson, mostly:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHYDxEICaP8 Against Miami's Seantrel Henderson and such: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW-8oPU80yE Jr DT - Eddie Goldman Unless he has a monster year like Timmy Jernigan, I think Goldman may return for his senior year. He came on really strongly at latter half of last year, and plays more of the space-eating, pocket-collapsing game. He's really good, but it's hard to write about him because the sample size is a little small and he wasn't quite...well, eye catching, watching everyone else. He's 6'4, something like 310. Ankles like tree trunks, oh my god. Jr CB - Ronald Darby Incredible and is finally healthy. Just, like, no one passes on him. He's incredible. He had to get technically better because he was too injured last year to rely on his speed to recover from mistakes and now he's also just a drat technician at the position as well. He's 5'11 and ~190 lbs, former track star, densely muscular, extremely affable and good-humored, spurned Notre Dame. What's not to like? He specifically excels at 1-on-1 man coverage but does everything very well, and has incredible burst. Jr CB - PJ Williams A little taller, a little rangier, a hair slower than Ronald Darby. He excels a little more at zone and deep coverage, fights with his hands wonderfully to knock away/out would-be catches. He's also an incredible run defender.   Match-ups with star passers or WRs: Okie State (They tend to have a good passing game so why not?) Clemson* (Boyd throwing to Watkins and Bryant got totally reamed so this isn't a bad thing. Miami* (Their WRs aren't bad last year and Morris made some NFL throws. This year who knows, with their QB situation as it is) Pitt* (WR Tyler Boyd is a loving beast) ...man FSU will likely not face a good passing offense next year until the playoffs, if they make it. R-Jr S - Tyler Hunter Has a bit of a neck injury history and will likely return his Sr. year. He's a vocal leader and spent a lot of time putting on his coaching hat while out. Vicious hitter and pretty savvy. 5'10, 210 lbs. Mixed Bag These players aren't likely to start, but are graduating and have shown a good amount of talent in their own right and are (probably) leaving after this year. They are the victims of being usurped by really superior talent or, in some cases, talent that's just more geared towards the new systems we've come to run. Because they were good in a previous system or they have some still-unfulfilled-potential this late in the game, they may catch on in life after FSU. Sr CB - Nick Waisome Waisome was a beast when we were playing in stoops system, a zone heavy dare-you-to-pass kinda thing. He however has not shown to be as good as Darby or Williams at man and that's doomed him since stoops dipped. A bit on the short side. 5'10, 170 lbs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHLUG3Gd4mQ Sr WR - Jarred Haggins Very dependable WR, good over the middle, a bit of an injury history, hands mostly. Very willing to take a hit and dive to make tough catches. Sr WR - Christian Green Incredible athletic specimen and has played all 4 years but still hasn't registered a TD. Not a particularly good WR and some meh hands. If he puts it together though, which is starting to look unlikely but you never know, he could pretty easily make a roster with his tools. Very fast, very quick.
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I like watching Florida beat Tennessee  Why won't florida beat Tennessee?ZenVulgarity posted:Pills I'm amazed you don't have an av right now aww thanks. I kinda douche it up pretty hard though Also red lightning was a good dude, doing 'celebrity' appearances bartending with places around tally and donating all the tips to Jimbo's charity. pillsburysoldier fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Aug 5, 2014 |
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