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Could it also mean that the team in general is just trash? 
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oh my god my backpacking trip can't come soon enough so I can escape this bullshit for 3 weeks
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Aug 5, 2014 01:11
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Mind_Taker posted:So who is their #1 D now? uh, wow, goddamn. e: MacDonald
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Aug 5, 2014 18:48
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honestly it just gets boring talking about advanced stats over and over I want to watch hockey. I don't mind it mixed in but I'm just not a person who wants to try to painstakingly analyze everything with what are probably at least slightly faulty stats
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Aug 6, 2014 15:46
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I feel like the problem with the Leafs was that their "success" was clearly unsustainable because they had pretty crap fundamentals and relied wayyyyy too much on scoring off the rush, the PP, and goalies bailing them out. Despite that, management didn't seem to see this as a problem and just figured the Leafs have turned the corner! and didn't really address the issues so the fall back to earth wasn't that surprising since they just tried to keep doing historically unsustainable things
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Aug 6, 2014 16:23
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Mind_Taker posted:Advanced stats should be used in conjunction with traditional scouting, the good thing about data is that you can just go to ExtraSkater and look up any player you want, whereas you can't feasibly scout every NHL player (which of course would be more valuable than a bunch of numbers). On the other hand it leads to a bunch of people who don't watch the players then saying they're basically experts and know everything about all those players because they read some stats on extra skater
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Aug 6, 2014 16:30
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Mind_Taker posted:Ideally you would identify a player who has surprisingly good (or bad) stats, and then dig deeper and actually watch them play. Do you think Stralman would have generated as much UFA interest even like 5 years ago? He wasn't even generating much interest a year ago, but that's possibly because he wasn't a pending UFA at the time.
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Aug 6, 2014 16:51
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Spamtron7000 posted:The long-term problem with fancy stats based on shot attempts is that agents and players aren't loving stupid. You're already seeing bad contracts getting handed out to players based on their Corsi events. This behavior will lead to players stupidly firing pucks at the net in order to pad their fancystats and to agents encouraging them to do so (this is assuming that we're all naive and half the league doesn't already do this). Shot-based advanced stats are already approaching the end of their useful lifetime and everyone who is just jumping on the bandwagon has already missed out on the value. yes but see shooting percentages will regress towards last years mean and
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Aug 6, 2014 18:06
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I think in the case of Orpik you also get this entrenched idea that old veteran players shouldn't be taking a paycut even as their skills decline Orpik is respected around the league for some unknown reason so of course no one's going to say "dude is probably worth $2 mill/year tops". It's really hard to shift a guys salary downwards especially if they're an UFA (unless you're Lee Stempniak)
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Aug 6, 2014 18:27
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INSPECTAH DECK posted:Dellow himself wrote 2 articles about how good Pouliot was based on his possession across several teams, and how happy he was with the signing. I mean...I don't really know what I'd expect out of Pouliot with the Oilers. I think he benefited a lot from playing with Brassard and Zucc, though he probably helped that somewhat by being the guy on the line who would shoot the puck for sure. Who'd he play with a lot in Boston and his other stops? My impression from the Rangers is that he wasn't the guy making his line work but he didn't hurt it either...in the right situation he's good. He's still a 38 point player though and that's with power play time
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Aug 6, 2014 18:51
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yes he always falls down a lot because he can't skate for poo poo
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Aug 6, 2014 19:02
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I remember during one Rangers game way back in the Tom Renney era they put heart rate monitors on some players and then would do replays of their shifts to show their heart rate spiking during their shifts etc. It was kinda cool, but pretty basic
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Aug 6, 2014 22:07
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20 years ago was the beginning of the dead puck era so I wouldn't be saying hockey was more entertaining back then...
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Aug 7, 2014 18:59
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ThinkTank posted:"Call penalties as they're written" would help. Start penalizing clutch and grab, picks in the neutral zone and hooks into the hands like they did in 05/06 and you'd see offence rocket back up again. Teams learnt to adapt to the new rules a bit, but basically the playoffs rolled around the first year after the lockout and refs were told to swallow their whistles and they've started to let more and more go to the point where we're nearly back to pre-lockout levels of interference. Really cracking down for a few years would make for a couple penalty filled seasons, but teams would adapt and hopefully we'd see more skating/end to end play rather than bear hugs in the corners. But then how would LA win any more cups?
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Aug 7, 2014 19:40
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If a dude does a drop pass just over the offensive blueline and then skates straight at the defender therefor blocking that defender from switching coverage then the defender should be able to legally crosscheck the first player in the face in order to knock him to the ice and eliminate the pick
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Aug 7, 2014 19:47
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Drew Doughty, fat and slow and only good because of clutch and grab
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Aug 7, 2014 19:52
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AngryBooch posted:By having the puck 58% of the game. Except they wouldn't because the onyl reason they possess the puck so much is all their interference and by my calculation strict enforcement of the rules means a 15% drop in possession for LA meaning they're one of the worst teams in the league and the Rangers are actually the 2014 cup champions
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Aug 7, 2014 20:28
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Mook really wants to argue with someone. Ya'll should know better.
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Aug 8, 2014 03:20
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Been backpacking for 17 days anything interesting happen other than the Rangers signing Hayes?
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Aug 30, 2014 02:12
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Sports guys are creepy, got it. Glad I skipped the last three weeks and instead got to look at pretty mountains and watch some marmots steal a subway sandwich out of some dumbass' pack The NHL needs a team called the Marmots, can we relocate some Canadian team ?
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Aug 30, 2014 05:12
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The Whalers were a bad franchise and don't deserve the nostalgia they get
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Aug 31, 2014 05:33
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Brian Boyle did them a solid and talked them up to Hayes. Also Calgary and Florida weren't that good last year and the Rangers went to the finals
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Aug 31, 2014 14:21
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Rangers C depth is worse than their RW depth (Nash, St Louis, Zuccarello down the right) and they need a 3C so it'd be kinda good if he did play C. Supposedly he can play any forward position though and will probably be in the running for that LW spot vacated by Pouliot, along with Fast, Stempniak, Kristo, maybe Miller (but maybe they'll move him back to C)
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Aug 31, 2014 15:42
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Right, some guys can make the jump to the NHL from college, but I dunno about Hayes. If he earns a spot then he's ready if he doesn't then he goes to the AHL. no big deal
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Aug 31, 2014 16:30
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Yeh they should trade him to the Rangers for a good character guy like Tarnaski
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Sep 1, 2014 01:49
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Furnaceface posted:Pretty sure Hayes signed with the team that was going to give him the most NHL time since he seems to insist that he is ready. I dont think he plans on playing in the AHL, which is why he wanted out of Chicago. No one guarantees time to an unproven player. That said the Rangers have more roster spots open than Chicago and he's still more likely to make it during the year in NY if he doesn't make it out of camp He also says Kreider and Brian Boyle talked to him and that he likes AV's style
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Sep 1, 2014 02:18
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No, Brian. He's a BC alum too and Hayes said he talked to him and Brian had good things to say about the Rangers and that played a role in his decision
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Sep 1, 2014 02:45
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Can't help but think that's just an extension of the political dick waving that's going on right now
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Sep 1, 2014 17:01
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It's political dick waving between the US and Russia, it's invasion between Russia and Ukraine, GOD if you're going to be pedantic at least get it right 
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