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I saw a lady on my street wearing a full niqab today. Nothing but her eyes visible. I thought "That's kind of bullshit." then I thought 'I should be more tolerant" then I thought "if she was Christian and wearing that I'd think it was major bullshit." Then I felt sort of weird and confused. Cultural relativism vs. feminism. What do you do?
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relly makes u think op
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Aug 6, 2014 01:21
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last week i saw a woman wearing a niqab next to her husband who was wearing a graphic tee and cargo shorts, it seemed pretty bad to me doesnt the quran instruct men to dress modestly as well
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Aug 6, 2014 01:23
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who cares op
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Aug 6, 2014 01:24
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great uv protection though
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Aug 6, 2014 01:24
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whatever just because it's a different culture that doesn't make it automatically above questioning some cultures are hosed up yo
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Aug 6, 2014 01:26
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Ask to see her tits op.
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Aug 6, 2014 01:27
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Muslim women really know how to show off a bit of face at the beach
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Aug 6, 2014 01:27
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everytime i see a muslim i get so loving angry but whenever im about to cause a scene i grip onto my richard dawkins stress plushie and remember how calm he is in the face of illogical idiots
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Aug 6, 2014 01:29
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THS posted:everytime i see a muslim i get so loving angry but whenever im about to cause a scene i grip onto my richard dawkins stress plushie and remember how calm he is in the face of illogical idiots lol
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Aug 6, 2014 01:30
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Inevitable posted:What do you do? bomb saudi arabia
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Aug 6, 2014 01:31
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gggiiimmmppp posted:great uv protection though
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Aug 6, 2014 01:33
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Like opening a present...filled with abrasive pubes
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Aug 6, 2014 01:35
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SpicyMeatSandwich posted:Like opening a present...filled with abrasive pubes actually, did you know that muslims are obligated to trim their pubes? i learned this today in the other islam thread. praise Allah
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Aug 6, 2014 01:35
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SpicyMeatSandwich posted:Like opening a present...filled with abrasive pubes peace be upon u What is the hair that it is permissible to remove and the hair that it is not permissible to remove? I know that plucking the eyebrows is haram and removing facial hair is also but that we can remove hair above the lip and in between the eyebrows. What about the hair that comes between the hair line and the eyebrows down to the eyebrow?. Praise be to Allaah. Firstly: With regard to removing hair or not removing it, the scholars divide hair into three categories: 1 – Hair which we are commanded to remove or shorten. This is known as Sunan al-Fitrah, such as removing the pubic hairs, trimming the moustache and plucking the armpit hairs. That also includes shaving or cutting the hair of the head during Hajj or ‘Umrah. The evidence for that is the hadeeth of ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) who said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Ten (actions) are part of the fitrah [natural inclinations of man]: trimming the moustache, letting the beard grow, using the siwaak (tooth-stick), rinsing the nose with water, clipping the nails, washing the finger joints, plucking the armpit hairs, shaving the pubes and washing oneself with water after relieving oneself.” Zakariyya said: Mus’ab said: And I forgot the tenth but it may have been rinsing the mouth with water. Narrated by Muslim, 261 2 – Hair which we are forbidden to remove, which includes the eyebrows. The action of removing the hair of the eyebrows is called al-namas. It is also forbidden to remove the hair of the beard. The evidence for that is the hadeeth of ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Allaah has cursed the woman who does tattoos and the one who has them done, the woman who plucks eyebrows (al-naamisah) and the one who has it done (al-mutanammisah), and the one who files her teeth for the purpose of beauty, altering the creation of Allaah.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5931; Muslim, 2125) And it was narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Be different from the mushrikeen: let your beards grow and trim your moustaches.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5892; Muslim, 259) al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The naamisah is the woman who removes hair from the face and the mutanammisah is the one who asks to have that done. This action is haraam, unless a woman develops a beard or moustache, in which case it is not haraam to remove it, rather that is mustahabb in our view. Sharh al-Nawawi li Saheeh Muslim, 14/106 3 – Hair concerning which the texts are silent and do not say whether it is to be removed or left as it is, such as hair on the legs, hands, cheeks or forehead. There is some difference of scholarly opinion concerning this. Some said that it is not permissible to remove it, because removing it implies changing the creation of Allaah, as Allaah tells us that the Shaytaan said: “ ‘and indeed I will order them to change the nature created by Allaah’”[al-Nisa’ 4:119 – interpretation of the meaning] Some said that this is one of the things concerning which nothing was said, so the ruling is that it is allowed. It is permissible to leave it or to remove it, because whatever is not mentioned in the Qur’aan or Sunnah is permissible. This was the view favoured by the scholars of the Standing Committee and by Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen. See Fataawa al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, 3/879 It says in Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah: (a) There is no sin on a woman if she removes hair on her upper lip, thighs, calves and arms. This is not part of the tanammus (plucking) that is forbidden. (Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 5/194, 195) (b) The Committee was asked: What is the Islamic ruling on plucking the hair between the eyebrows? They replied: It is permissible to pluck it, because it is not part of the eyebrows. (Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 5/197) The Standing Committee was asked: What is the ruling on a woman removing hair from her body? They replied: It is permissible for her to do that, apart from the hair of the eyebrows and head. It is not permissible for her to remove the hair of her head or to remove any part of the eyebrows, whether by shaving or any other means. Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 5/194 We should comment on the questioner’s words “I know that plucking the eyebrows is haraam and removing facial hair is also.” As for plucking the eyebrows, this is haraam and is a major sin, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed those who do it. But as for removing facial hair, there is a difference of opinion among the scholars as to whether it is permissible to remove it. This is based on their various understandings of the word al-namas. Some scholars said that al-namas means removing any facial hair, and they did not limit it to the eyebrows. Others were of the view that al-namas refers to removing the hair of the eyebrows only. This was the view favoured by the Standing Committee as is clear from the fatwas quoted above. It says in Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah: Al-namas means plucking the hair of the eyebrows, which is not permissible because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed the woman who plucks eyebrows (al-naamisah) and the one who has it done (al-mutanammisah). Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 5/195 And Allaah knows best.
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Aug 6, 2014 01:37
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Also, there's a Native rez nearby where the women aren't allowed to vote. That is also kind of bullshit.
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Aug 6, 2014 01:39
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Inevitable posted:I saw a lady on my street wearing a full niqab today. Nothing but her eyes visible. I thought "That's kind of bullshit." then I thought 'I should be more tolerant" then I thought "if she was Christian and wearing that I'd think it was major bullshit." Then I felt sort of weird and confused. Shoot the hostage
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Aug 6, 2014 01:40
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Its the arab men's extreme dedication to building a homosexual society that creates the need for niqab. If you know some arabs you know what I mean. In Arabian countries its nonstop men men men men men men men men men everywhere allways. There the gayest countries on earth. They don't *like* women so they don't care about them and it doesn't bother them that there marriages are arranged. They don't care who there wife is because her role is just to have baby and take care of baby and keep house clean. Arab men don't get pleasure from the company of women.
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Aug 6, 2014 01:43
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Inevitable posted:Also, there's a Native rez nearby where the women aren't allowed to vote. That is also kind of bullshit. I thought this was impermissible under the Voting Rights Act?? unless you're in Canada in which case lol
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Aug 6, 2014 01:44
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Throwdini posted:Its the arab men's extreme dedication to building a homosexual society that creates the need for niqab. If you know some arabs you know what I mean. In Arabian countries its nonstop men men men men men men men men men everywhere allways. There the gayest countries on earth. They don't *like* women so they don't care about them and it doesn't bother them that there marriages are arranged. They don't care who there wife is because her role is just to have baby and take care of baby and keep house clean. Arab men don't get pleasure from the company of women. and people wonder why they're bailing out of the middle east as fast as they can hint: its not the violence
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Aug 6, 2014 01:45
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THS posted:actually, did you know that muslims are obligated to trim their pubes? i learned this today in the other islam thread. praise Allah I learned that like decades ago. Looks like I am actually more knowledgeable about barbarian cultures than you are.
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Aug 6, 2014 01:45
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Throwdini posted:Its the arab men's extreme dedication to building a homosexual society that creates the need for niqab. If you know some arabs you know what I mean. In Arabian countries its nonstop men men men men men men men men men everywhere allways. There the gayest countries on earth. They don't *like* women so they don't care about them and it doesn't bother them that there marriages are arranged. They don't care who there wife is because her role is just to have baby and take care of baby and keep house clean. Arab men don't get pleasure from the company of women. its like ancient greece, women aren't interesting enough to be lovers or friends so better just lock them in a room where visitors wont have to see them and bang some dudes.
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Aug 6, 2014 01:45
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Sunshine Mix posted:I thought this was impermissible under the Voting Rights Act?? unless you're in Canada in which case lol They're allowed to vote for federal and state office but not tribal. Nor are they allowed to hold tribal office.
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Aug 6, 2014 01:49
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Islam is basically like having 1/5th of the planet be a lifestyle bear bathhouse.
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Aug 6, 2014 01:51
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hey how do I vote 1 from the awful app? I need it for this thread.
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Aug 6, 2014 01:54
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Miltank posted:hey how do I vote 1 from the awful app? I need it for this thread. I voted 5 for you
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Aug 6, 2014 01:58
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Miltank posted:hey how do I vote 1 from the awful app? I need it for this thread. You have to shove your phone up your rear end hth
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Aug 6, 2014 02:00
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MLIOOBE posted:I voted 5 for you hey whoa that hurts us all, tragedy of the commons man!
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Aug 6, 2014 02:00
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i agree let's liberate women and prohibit them from wearing a garment we disapprove of
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Aug 6, 2014 02:02
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Inevitable posted:They're allowed to vote for federal and state office but not tribal. Nor are they allowed to hold tribal office. Oh, I see. Well...that kind of sucks by my Western liberal standards but there's not much we can really do about it w/out undoing years of federal gov't-Indian relations...
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Aug 6, 2014 02:03
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newreply.php posted:i agree let's liberate women and prohibit them from wearing a garment we disapprove of That's not what I said. 
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Aug 6, 2014 02:03
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newreply.php posted:i agree let's liberate women and prohibit them from wearing a garment we disapprove of whoah, gently caress, its like a paradox man *fartz thoughfully*
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Aug 6, 2014 02:04
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What if tolerance is really a kind of intolerance?
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Aug 6, 2014 02:05
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newreply.php posted:i agree let's liberate women and prohibit them from wearing a garment we disapprove of she could have a bomb under there and you wouldnt ever know till it was too late
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Aug 6, 2014 02:06
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Yeah, let's have the home of the free but we can't even have have fully automatic assault rifles, thanks Obama.
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Aug 6, 2014 02:07
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one time my ex said she was thinking about converting over to islam because she unironically thought it was the most feminist of religions would i have been able to kill her with rocks under sharia law for saying that?
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Aug 6, 2014 02:07
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Well, yes, because she had once considered NOT submitting to Allah
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Aug 6, 2014 02:08
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they are essentially wearing ninja assassin garb
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Aug 6, 2014 02:09
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I guess it's her choice to wear it, after all, it isn't against the law, it's just that her hsband would probably beat her up or something if she didnt FEMINISM
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Aug 6, 2014 02:09
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Its bullshit.
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