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Thing is "entire societies, especially in the West, have placed themselves on the wrong side of history" isn't wrong, he's just mistaken about what the right and wrong sides of history are. That's what new pope is saying too, except that the new pope puts history is on the side of the poor instead of the rich ie: "No to an economy of exclusion" "No to the new idolatry of money" "No to the new idolatry of money" "No to the inequality which spawns violence" nachos posted:I don't think I've seen republican accelerationism before. Decelerationism? Going Galt, the whole stay with us in Galts Gulch so we can re-organize when it all collapses business is an accelerationism.
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“They will have more screens, more money, more hype . . . but we’re hopeful that we are not alone in our belief that there are others out there who desire more from love–and the movies–than objectification or domination.” To be honest, I figured 50 Shades was about as Godly as romance got minus all the disgusting enjoyment of sex. Absusive BDSM relationships are practically mandated by the Bible.
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SedanChair posted:Get into the persecution narrative bro! Obviously the liberals who want women to have health care will team up with ISIS and massacre all bishops. According to the Very Serious Guest CNN I just saw interviewed ISIS's oppression of Christians in Mosul amounts to a full-blown  CHRISTIAN HOLOCAUST!!! He claimed Christian children are being beheaded by the dozen in city squares, women raped and murdered by the score, men being hung (sic) from lamp posts, and other reliably well accounted-for non-hysterics. zoux posted:In even further Christian movie news, did y'all ever see The Buttercream Gang OK seriously, who chooses these titles? How can that not be intentional?
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zoux posted:In other Christian movie news, the same studio that did God's Not Dead is releasing a movie about good, clean Christian romance on Valentine's Day 2015 as a direct challenge to the 50 Shades of Gray movie. Aw man, you mean were going to get two great lovely romances this February?  What is the Buttercream Gang? Captain_Maclaine posted:According to the Very Serious Guest CNN I just saw interviewed ISIS's oppression of Christians in Mosul amounts to a full-blown This is what pisses me off about the whole persecution Complex these people have. This guy is being hyperbolic but there are places int he world where Christians are being persecuted. Christians in America feel they are persecuted because they can't shame people into following their lifestyle anymore. BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Aug 6, 2014 |
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Captain_Maclaine posted:OK seriously, who chooses these titles? How can that not be intentional? Get your mind out of the gutter. The Buttercreamers, as they refer to themselves, have a legacy that stretches back to the ACW, where likely young lads would help war widows cream their butter. To this day, Buttercreamers are a club devoted to being good white boys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOWW-r0AWr8
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I just found out 50 Shades of Gray was about BDSM a couple weeks ago. Which is weird, wasn't the romance in the wildly popular source material chaste enough to be written by a Mormon?Captain_Maclaine posted:According to the Very Serious Guest CNN I just saw interviewed ISIS's oppression of Christians in Mosul amounts to a full-blown Those of us suffering in Obama's America would be lucky to be ruled by ISIS. Shear Modulus fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Aug 6, 2014 |
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Captain_Maclaine posted:According to the Very Serious Guest CNN I just saw interviewed ISIS's oppression of Christians in Mosul amounts to a full-blown I wouldn't doubt that ISIS is doing that. Its just that theres a ton of people other than christians getting that treatment too.
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Shear Modulus posted:I just found out 50 Shades of Gray was about BDSM a couple weeks ago. Which is weird, wasn't the romance in the wildly popular source material chaste enough to be written by a Mormon? Yes, that's the point. That's why the fanfic was so popular.
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Shear Modulus posted:I just found out 50 Shades of Gray was about BDSM a couple weeks ago. Which is weird, wasn't the romance in the wildly popular source material chaste enough to be written by a Mormon? If you are talking about Twilight, it was written by a Mormon.
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zoux posted:Get your mind out of the gutter. Never.  BigRed0427 posted:This is what pisses me off about the whole persecution Complex these people have. This guy is being hyperbolic but there are places int he world where Christians are being persecuted. Christians in America feel they are persecuted because they can't shame people into following their lifestyle anymore. Yeah. The guy who was talking all this up, I probably don't need to mention, was a Californian (admittedly of Middle Eastern decent). So many American Christians seem to revel in appropriating the suffering of their coreligionists as evidence of their own persecution. hobbesmaster posted:I wouldn't doubt that ISIS is doing that. Its just that theres a ton of people other than christians getting that treatment too. I'll never deny that ISIS consists almost exclusively of barbarous turds, and is in all likeyhood doing all sorts of atrocious things to anyone unfortunate enough to be under their control, but this guy was acting like 1) this was an exclusively Christian problem and 2) it was happening at levels similar to the pre-Second Coming part of Revelation.
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Joementum posted:I just don't really find anything alarming about using an RV toy to take wedding pictures. And no one is stopping you or your friends from doing that. The (not really enforced) guidance from the FAA is that any commercial use of pilot-less aircraft is not allowed until proper guidelines are created. This takes time for the usual reasons (research, public comment periods, etc), and the resulting regulations are probably going to be common sense enough like weight, speed, and altitude limitations, insurance requirements, line of sight restrictions, redundancy of controls or failsafes, and so on. Until those guidelines are in place, it's better that companies don't just get to do whatever. AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Aug 6, 2014 |
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VitalSigns posted:No you missed the best part: [Some] Christians have a weird thing where they view persecution as a positive. If they can suffer for their religion it gets them more heaven points. There is a story in Acts(?) where a group of the Apostles is beaten for being Christians and when they are released they jump for joy at the idea that they suffered for Christ. But those Muslims who want to die violently, those guys are weird. W/R/T The Satanic Temple I am unfamiliar with their stated religious beliefs and how they compare to the Church of Satan, but they seem to be content to use their money and legal status to troll Christians at every point and make the argument that religious freedom laws in this country only seem to apply to Christians. I live in Oklahoma so you bet your rear end I want to see a giant Satan statue at the Capitol. I intend to take a day off of work and drive up to the unveiling. Not only have they pointed out the hypocrisy of having the Ten Commandments, but as someone who happens to listen to metal and have a fondness for Satanic imagery, the thing looks  The best part is that they took out an insurance policy on it equal to twice it's value. That way when some vigilante Christian tries to bust it up they have another ready to go and can afford to put another somewhere else. Or maybe they just take down the 10 commandments. Either way.
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BigRed0427 posted:If you are talking about Twilight, it was written by a Mormon. Yeah, that's what I meant. Captain_Maclaine posted:Yeah. The guy who was talking all this up, I probably don't need to mention, was a Californian (admittedly of Middle Eastern decent). So many American Christians seem to revel in appropriating the suffering of their coreligionists as evidence of their own persecution. Christian persecutionists have gotten soft. Time was, even Middle Easterners hating Israel was evidence of the worldwide assault on Judeo-Christianity.
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Shouldn't Christians love persecution? Like "gently caress yes bro push a sword into me. I can't believe my luck."
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SedanChair posted:Shouldn't Christians love persecution? Like "gently caress yes bro push a sword into me. I can't believe my luck." Fifty Shades of the Cross?
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zoux posted:Uh I don't think we should be summarily executing people in the streets regardless of their stance on the Catholic Church child abuse coverup. If the year 2100 rolls around and the Church hasn't made some serious progress, then maybe we should look into some alternative ways of addressing the issue.
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So the beginning of a new thread seems like a good place to ask: Where do yall get your political news from? For the last year or so I've been getting 90%+ of that from DnD. What are the best news sources that aren't overt propaganda for one side or the other?
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SedanChair posted:Shouldn't Christians love persecution? Like "gently caress yes bro push a sword into me. I can't believe my luck." "Blessed are you when people persecute you and bear false witness against you, because of me".
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Eschatos posted:So the beginning of a new thread seems like a good place to ask: Where do yall get your political news from? For the last year or so I've been getting 90%+ of that from DnD. What are the best news sources that aren't overt propaganda for one side or the other? Al Jazeera America. Not joking.
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Eschatos posted:So the beginning of a new thread seems like a good place to ask: Where do yall get your political news from? For the last year or so I've been getting 90%+ of that from DnD. What are the best news sources that aren't overt propaganda for one side or the other? Al Jazeera and The Guardian are both pretty good.
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Eschatos posted:So the beginning of a new thread seems like a good place to ask: Where do yall get your political news from? For the last year or so I've been getting 90%+ of that from DnD. What are the best news sources that aren't overt propaganda for one side or the other? Al- Jazzerra, BBC and VOX.com. Vice is good too if you wanna read about more fringe stuff. They actually had a interesting article about women int he MRA movement. Honestly, I wish we did have a thread just comparing news sources and talking about who sucks and who is actually good. BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Aug 6, 2014 |
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Badera posted:From that Santorum article: He's not fearmongering, he's fantasizing while stroking a barely concealed erection. Nothing, nothing is more terrifying to a Christian cleric than being ignored and forgotten.
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Eschatos posted:So the beginning of a new thread seems like a good place to ask: Where do yall get your political news from? For the last year or so I've been getting 90%+ of that from DnD. What are the best news sources that aren't overt propaganda for one side or the other? Dave Weigel and Bob Costa are fantastic sources for keeping track of what those wiley fuckers in the GOP and movement conservatism are doing, which is pretty much all you need to know about what direction our country is headed in. I also subscribe to newsletters from Democratic and Tea Party activist organizations to see what their respective bases are going to be pissed about in the coming weeks. I also subscribe to the news feed of just about every federal agency that regulates or studies an issue that I am interested in, to keep tabs on the stuff that is actually happening. The result is that my inbox generally has a Tea Party petition to end the Ex-Im Bank alongside a press release from Ex-Im about all of the good stuff they're doing. edit: Only talking about where I get my political news, all of those sources mentioned above are good, except for Vox, which is terrible.
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Eschatos posted:What are the best news sources that aren't overt propaganda for one side or the other? I get nearly all of my news from overtly partisan sources, but I mostly follow domestic politics. Roll Call is the best non-partisan news source for following Congress though.
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GROVER CURES HOUSE posted:Also 50 Shades of Gray was Weird and Creepy and I was not even slightly surprised to find out that it started out as a Twilight fanfic. 50 Shades is a legit terrible book that glorifies abusiveness and nonconsent, and it's tragic that it caught on like it did.
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SedanChair posted:Shouldn't Christians love persecution? Like "gently caress yes bro push a sword into me. I can't believe my luck." Read the Ante-Nicene Church Fathers, there is some: lets follow Jesus to the cross and not metaphorically. I'm looking forward to my being martyred by imperial selfish power type stuff.
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DemeaninDemon posted:Fifty Shades of the Cross? The Passion of Fifty Shades. 
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A Winner is Jew posted:The Passion of Fifty Shades. I thought Mel Gibson already made that movie 
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DemeaninDemon posted:Fifty Shades of the Cross? Mel Gibson made that. e: gently caress, really
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BrandorKP posted:Read the Ante-Nicene Church Fathers, there is some: lets follow Jesus to the cross and not metaphorically. I'm looking forward to my being martyred by imperial selfish power type stuff. Filipinos are into it:  Note microphone for max crowd appeal.
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SedanChair posted:Shouldn't Christians love persecution? Like "gently caress yes bro push a sword into me. I can't believe my luck." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcellions quote:The Circumcellions regarded martyrdom as the true Christian virtue (as the early Church Father Tertullian said, "a martyr's death day was actually his birthday"), and thus disagreed with the Episcopal see of Carthage on the primacy of chastity, sobriety, humility, and charity. Instead, they focused on bringing about their own martyrdom.
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Pfirti86 posted:I wonder if there are any actual theistic Satantists in the way that evangelical Christians like to froth about. The only ones I ever hear of are the LaVeyan types, angry teenagers, those heavy metal people from Scandinavia, and one-off types who are trying to make a point about religious overreach. Well, there's these people, sorta.
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Shear Modulus posted:I just found out 50 Shades of Gray was about BDSM a couple weeks ago. Which is weird, wasn't the romance in the wildly popular source material chaste enough to be written by a Mormon? Twilight was written by a mormon and and multiple friends who are fans of it saw it as he basically venting her pent up fantasies. 50 shades of grey was a twilight fanfic originally. So 50 shades of grey is basically someone's fantasies of one of the male characters abusing the poo poo out of Bella or whatever that girl's name was.
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Evil Fluffy posted:So 50 shades of grey is basically someone's fantasies of one of the male characters abusing the poo poo out of Bella or whatever that girl's name was. James has described the Fifty Shades trilogy as "my midlife crisis, writ large. All my fantasies in there, and that's it."
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:And no one is stopping you or your friends from doing that. The (not really enforced) guidance from the FAA is that any commercial use of pilot-less aircraft is not allowed until proper guidelines are created. This takes time for the usual reasons (research, public comment periods, etc), and the resulting regulations are probably going to be common sense enough like weight, speed, and altitude limitations, insurance requirements, line of sight restrictions, redundancy of controls or failsafes, and so on. Until those guidelines are in place, it's better that companies don't just get to do whatever. I can't imagine having one at a wedding anyway eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I eeeeeeeeeeeee now eeeeEEEEEEEEEE Pronounce You EEEEEEEEEEEE HUSBAND EEEEEEEEEEE AND EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WIFE! EEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! Although if the bride managed to pick one out of the air with the bouquet that would be a pretty great memory. Shifty Pony fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Aug 6, 2014 |
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made of bees posted:Well, there's these people, sorta. not so fun fact: ISIS are in the process of mass murdering them as we speak
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