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Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!

Cheekio posted:

It's also taking Colorado a surprisingly long time to transition to the hellscape it's doomed to become since they legalized weed. Seattle is further behind the times on that, so you know you've got another year or so to figure out where to land when the potsmoke monsters turn the town into, I don't know, lazy people or something.

Look, just because abuse levels are down, teenage use is down, crime is down, tax revenues are up, small businesses are up, and tourism is up doesn't mean it still won't turn out to be the terrible idea that David Brooks warned us against!

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Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Obama said this at a DSCC fundraiser tonight:

quote:

“What’s preventing us from getting things done right now is you’ve got a faction within the Republican Party that thinks solely in terms of their own ideological purposes and solely in terms of how do they hang on to power,” Obama said. “And that’s a problem. And that’s why I need a Democratic Senate. Not to mention the fact that we’re going to have Supreme Court appointments, and there are going to be a whole host of issues that many people here care about that are going to be determined by whether or not Democrats retain the Senate.”

The White House quickly rushed to clarify that he was speaking hypothetically, but was he?

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Raskolnikov38 posted:

I think he claimed once that most of his income comes from people that forgot they signed up for a subscription.

Ok this seems reasonable, plenty of internet companies probably make most of their money this way. I'd be curious to know how many zombie Netflix accounts are out there racking up free money.

Joementum posted:

Obama said this at a DSCC fundraiser tonight:


The White House quickly rushed to clarify that he was speaking hypothetically, but was he?

Finally, Clarence Thomas is retiring.

edit

Fried Chicken posted:

Look, just because abuse levels are down, teenage use is down, crime is down, tax revenues are up, small businesses are up, and tourism is up doesn't mean it still won't turn out to be the terrible idea that David Brooks warned us against!

Watching Brooks and the rest of the right wing editorial nitwits on the Sunday shows flail about when confronted with recent developments has been quite entertaining. I think they're at the level of "pot is icky!" now, since everything else has fallen apart.

Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Aug 12, 2014

sleepingbuddha
Nov 4, 2010

It's supposed to look like a smashed cinnamon roll

Fried Chicken posted:

In case you missed it, the National Review is still shockingly openly racist for 2014

https://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/articles/383587/where-sidewalk-ends


I don't think he missed a single square in "Racist rear end in a top hat Bingo"

I often work in a high poverty, high crime, predominately African American community and have never once had anyone yell things like this at me. So either this guy was acting like a douche to deserve such treatment, or it was shitthatdidnthappen.txt

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!

sleepingbuddha posted:

I often work in a high poverty, high crime, predominately African American community and have never once had anyone yell things like this at me. So either this guy was acting like a douche to deserve such treatment, or it was shitthatdidnthappen.txt

It's both, he got some light criticism on a piece by Slate writer Jamelle Bouie, had a slap fight on twitter with him about Bouie is a "racebaiter", then wrote this to escalate the very one sided feud.

I mean it compares little black boys to primates and works in a "three-fifths" line. That's just reaching to try and piss people off

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Joementum posted:

The White House quickly rushed to clarify that he was speaking hypothetically, but was he?

Somewhere, a folder full of incriminating photos is thrown onto Scalia's desk. A mysterious man leans back to smoke a cigarette and says, "Your move."

The Aardvark
Aug 19, 2013


Chokes McGee posted:

Somewhere, a folder full of incriminating photos is thrown onto Scalia's desk. A mysterious man leans back to smoke a cigarette and says, "Your move."

I wish this really happens.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

Chokes McGee posted:

Somewhere, a folder full of incriminating photos is thrown onto Scalia's desk. A mysterious man leans back to smoke a cigarette and says, "Your move."

I'm fine with this, or having gay porn piped into his chambers until he offs himself. Either way I'll throw a party as large as the one I'll throw when W dies.

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
poo poo is going down in Ferguson right now

https://twitter.com/AntonioFrench

vines of it. Police are blocking off streets, firing tear gas into homes, and have moved from gas and rubber bullets to now carrying shotguns


Man, it seems like right now would be a good time for the Civil Rights Division of the DoJ to have someone confirmed as head.

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

Fried Chicken posted:

Look, just because abuse levels are down, teenage use is down, crime is down, tax revenues are up, small businesses are up, and tourism is up doesn't mean it still won't turn out to be the terrible idea that David Brooks warned us against!

I visited my parents this past weekend, and my dad informed me that his doctor thinks he may have very early-stage glaucoma. My state allows medical marijuana for a very short list of ailments, glaucoma being one of them.

I ranted for a while about legalizing it (though I never really got into smoking pot myself) and joked with him about applying for a medical marijuana card so he can have an excuse to start smoking the reefer.

The next day, I'm out washing my car, and my dad tells me to come take a look at something. I follow him behind the shed and right in front of me is a five foot tall marijuana plant in a medium sized pot. I'm so dumbfounded and blown away I ask him if it somehow grew there by accident. He finally decided to spill the beans about fact that both he and my mom have been smoking pot occasionally for decades and neither me nor my brother ever had a clue.

Neither of my parents have ever been in trouble with the law and neither of them fit the lazy stoner stereotype whatsoever. To me they're exhibit A and B as to why pot is completely loving harmless and should be legalized posthaste.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Joementum posted:

Obama said this at a DSCC fundraiser tonight:


The White House quickly rushed to clarify that he was speaking hypothetically, but was he?

Most likely RBG retiring.

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

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Fried Chicken posted:

poo poo is going down in Ferguson right now

https://twitter.com/AntonioFrench

vines of it. Police are blocking off streets, firing tear gas into homes, and have moved from gas and rubber bullets to now carrying shotguns


Man, it seems like right now would be a good time for the Civil Rights Division of the DoJ to have someone confirmed as head.

Ah yes, I was at that. Tear gas ain't no thang.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Neo Duckberg posted:

Ah yes, I was at that. Tear gas ain't no thang.

You were the one handing out the Communist Revolutionary Party fliers, weren't you?

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

My Imaginary GF posted:


$200,000 is not equal in this country. $200,000 for 2 parents, married, working in Jersey and Manhattan, with 10 children in Brooklyn, is not the same as $200,000 for a single male in Alabama with no children. It is better to set a minimum which phases out other benefit programs, as that is the only one which would have political will due to its immediate and actual cost-savings. Please, I thought this issue was addressed in lovely 'Intro to Economics' courses in highschool.

High schools still have economics courses? That aren't funded by right-wing propagandists? I never had to take an econ class in school so I don't even know if mine had one.


I make 10 bucks an hour in Seattle. Thankfully I paid my car off with my old (better-paying) job that I lost with the 2008 depression, but even without car payments I'm barely staying in the black, at 40 hours/week. gently caress this country.

Spun Dog posted:

Yep, me too. Doesn't help when he's quoted though.

It'd be cool if ignoring people ignored posts that quoted their posts.

got any sevens fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Aug 12, 2014

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

effectual posted:

I make 10 bucks an hour in Seattle. Thankfully I paid my car off with my old (better-paying) job that I lost with the 2008 depression, but even without car payments I'm barely staying in the black, at 40 hours/week. gently caress this country.
Being from Seattle, I have no idea how you could do that. Do you eat rice with rice every day or something?

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Fried Chicken posted:

RIP Robin Williams

Goddamnit, how low will Fried Chicken stoop to distract us from his impeachment?!

(gently caress I hate learning about poo poo like that here.)

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

effectual posted:

High schools still have economics courses? That aren't funded by right-wing propagandists? I never had to take an econ class in school so I don't even know if mine had one.

Some High Schools have them. I dunno about about Washington, but I had one that was required for graduation here in California. It only lasted one semester, was very basic, and was a bit right wing, but it had it.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Forceholy posted:

Some High Schools have them. I dunno about about Washington, but I had one that was required for graduation here in California. It only lasted one semester, was very basic, and was a bit right wing, but it had it.

Texas has them but the AP classes are more theoretical (i.e., for economics majors) than practical.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Forceholy posted:

Some High Schools have them. I dunno about about Washington, but I had one that was required for graduation here in California. It only lasted one semester, was very basic, and was a bit right wing, but it had it.
As long as it explains the role of government regulation in keeping markets open to new firms, I have no problem with that.

Okan170
Nov 14, 2007

Torpedoes away!

Forceholy posted:

Some High Schools have them. I dunno about about Washington, but I had one that was required for graduation here in California. It only lasted one semester, was very basic, and was a bit right wing, but it had it.

In Washington, we had them. It wasn't spectacularly in-depth, not very helpful, but while the teachers might have had bias, the material that they covered was so basic that you couldn't really do much to form a philosophy from it.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

Samurai Sanders posted:

As long as it explains the role of government regulation in keeping markets open to new firms, I have no problem with that.

It didn't. It only covered basic macroeconomic topics. We did talk about taxes and personal finances for a day, though.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

In my 16 years o'schoolin', I've only had two teachers openly identify their political ideology to the class. One was my teacher for my one semester of high school economics at a suburban Texas school, the other was a senior-year Business Law professor. Surprise! They were both libertarians.

first day of Business Law, the frumpy, middle-aged professor shuffles into class and calls out in a giant booming voice: "WHO'S SICK OF THIS STUPID loving WAR??" and went for scoring points with the students before he talked about letting poor people die the next week

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.

Fried Chicken posted:

Man, it seems like right now would be a good time for the Civil Rights Division of the DoJ to have someone confirmed as head.

Please do not politicize this tragedy Fried Chicken.

I took AP Microeconomics in 12th grade in Texas, it was just a semester long course.

McAlister
Nov 3, 2002

by exmarx

Aliquid posted:

In my 16 years o'schoolin', I've only had two teachers openly identify their political ideology to the class. One was my teacher for my one semester of high school economics at a suburban Texas school, the other was a senior-year Business Law professor. Surprise! They were both libertarians.

first day of Business Law, the frumpy, middle-aged professor shuffles into class and calls out in a giant booming voice: "WHO'S SICK OF THIS STUPID loving WAR??" and went for scoring points with the students before he talked about letting poor people die the next week

I literally had a creationist science teacher in Kansas for junior high. He got revenge for my back talk by making half the class write a paper defending evolution and half defending creationism ... Putting me on the creationist side. Write noxious bullshit or get a bad grade ...

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

McAlister posted:

I literally had a creationist science teacher in Kansas for junior high. He got revenge for my back talk by making half the class write a paper defending evolution and half defending creationism ... Putting me on the creationist side. Write noxious bullshit or get a bad grade ...

Heh, at my first open house of high school while entering 9th grade, my AP Biology teacher took my parents aside and let them know she wouldn't be teaching any of that evolution stuff. If my parents had been normal people, they may have taken issue with that.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich
Poor Kansan kids. In Illinois, its only evolution in public schools, none of that 'teach the controversy' poo poo. Federal funds are on the line, so there's no tolerance for unscientific bullshit.

If I recall correctly, my HS required 1 semester of Macro econ and had an optional AP micro. Macro was the basics of the basics, and we still came out knowing progressive taxation, credit and debits, and checkbooks.

Nice thing about HS in Illinois was that the state paid for junior college tuition while you were enrolled. In exchange, you got to leave school early/after the minimum hours necessary for the school to receive payment for your attendance.

PERMACAV 50
Jul 24, 2007

because we are cat

My Imaginary GF posted:

Poor Kansan kids. In Illinois, its only evolution in public schools, none of that 'teach the controversy' poo poo. Federal funds are on the line, so there's no tolerance for unscientific bullshit.

It doesn't really stop anything. I went to a public high school in a Chicago suburb and the teacher I had for freshman bio and sophomore chem made the same entire-period-long spiel for both classes about how she was a creationist, a youth pastor, was only teaching evolution because she had to, and if anyone wanted "alternate assignments" she would give them. Mercifully, she left the second she cranked out a kid.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

Joementum posted:

The White House quickly rushed to clarify that he was speaking hypothetically, but was he?
The Pelikenyan Brief.

Sir Tonk posted:

Ok this seems reasonable, plenty of internet companies probably make most of their money this way. I'd be curious to know how many zombie Netflix accounts are out there racking up free money.
This is why re-billing became a huge flashpoint and the FTC actually finally did something about it a number of years ago. It was being abused like gently caress. It still is, but from what I gather it requires a lot more trickery to abuse now.

Aerox
Jan 8, 2012

Sex Hobbit posted:

It doesn't really stop anything. I went to a public high school in a Chicago suburb and the teacher I had for freshman bio and sophomore chem made the same entire-period-long spiel for both classes about how she was a creationist, a youth pastor, was only teaching evolution because she had to, and if anyone wanted "alternate assignments" she would give them. Mercifully, she left the second she cranked out a kid.

I went to a public school in the Bay Area and still managed to land a creationist biology teacher freshman year.

His greatest hits included setting the classroom thermostat to ~64 in the summer and then calling any women who complained about the temperature a slut or a whore for wearing immodest clothing, showing B.C. cartoons about how monkeys can't be descended from people during the evolution unit, and keeping a Bible in plain view on his desk at all times.

He also insisted on grading everything on a curve, and would publicly announce who got the highest grades in the class, encouraging people who did poorly to "blame them" for their low grades.

Finally, at one point, a girl in our class stood up and told him his teaching was garbage and that he had to follow the district. He started crying and kicked us all out of class ~20 min before the end of the period. Her parents went to the school board, they had a huge hearing, and the year after that all science teachers were forced to adhere to an incredibly strict (and bad) curriculum with no deviation allowed.

He sticks out in my mind because for almost my entire childhood, I said I wanted to be a scientist, and he's the single individual that killed that impulse for me. Garbage teacher, garbage human, and he had no business being anywhere near children.

gently caress you, Gary Latch!

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

Sex Hobbit posted:

It doesn't really stop anything. I went to a public high school in a Chicago suburb and the teacher I had for freshman bio and sophomore chem made the same entire-period-long spiel for both classes about how she was a creationist, a youth pastor, was only teaching evolution because she had to, and if anyone wanted "alternate assignments" she would give them. Mercifully, she left the second she cranked out a kid.

God drat I was lucky. Out of my 2 HS science teachers, one (earth science) was a former researcher at JPL and the other (biology) was a semi-retired doctor who always rode his harley to school. I remember someone jokingly bringing up creationism in biology and the teacher stopped for a second and announced that that creationism was idiocy of the highest order and if anyone or their parents have a problem with that they needed to be a licensed MD with over 30 years of residency or could "shut the hell up."

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Fried Chicken posted:

poo poo is going down in Ferguson right now

https://twitter.com/AntonioFrench

vines of it. Police are blocking off streets, firing tear gas into homes, and have moved from gas and rubber bullets to now carrying shotguns


Man, it seems like right now would be a good time for the Civil Rights Division of the DoJ to have someone confirmed as head.

The police telling press they can't enter Ferguson is hugely illegal, right?

bobtheconqueror
May 10, 2005
I had a high school civics teacher that was a young Earther, so he actually thought the planet was only six thousand years old.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

McAlister posted:

I literally had a creationist science teacher in Kansas for junior high. He got revenge for my back talk by making half the class write a paper defending evolution and half defending creationism ... Putting me on the creationist side. Write noxious bullshit or get a bad grade ...

Could you have told him creationism is against your religion? :psyboom:

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Sex Hobbit posted:

It doesn't really stop anything. I went to a public high school in a Chicago suburb and the teacher I had for freshman bio and sophomore chem made the same entire-period-long spiel for both classes about how she was a creationist, a youth pastor, was only teaching evolution because she had to, and if anyone wanted "alternate assignments" she would give them. Mercifully, she left the second she cranked out a kid.

South Suburban or...? Sounds similar to what happened with my class. Years later, I find out she wasn't invited to return after she had the kid. Point though is that evolution is taught and creationism has barriers in place meant to restrict it to outside the classroom.

PERMACAV 50
Jul 24, 2007

because we are cat

My Imaginary GF posted:

South Suburban or...? Sounds similar to what happened with my class. Years later, I find out she wasn't invited to return after she had the kid. Point though is that evolution is taught and creationism has barriers in place meant to restrict it to outside the classroom.

Naperville. Very Republican and very, very evangelical.

EmpyreanFlux
Mar 1, 2013

The AUDACITY! The IMPUDENCE! The unabated NERVE!
I too managed to land a creationist chemist for high school, and found myself being the only person raising my hand in objection when he started ranting that poo poo about how chemistry proves evolution is false. I felt embarrassed because he had plenty of "evidence" which I found hard to refute due to my only basic understanding of the history and principles of evolution. I felt ostracized and pressured enough that I think I almost converted (too hazy to remember), but thank gently caress for the internet in this case from saving me from a terrible decision.

No seriously, goddamn I wish I had the internet back then to put that loving homophobic piece of poo poo in his place but alas. He no longer teaches though, likely hammering on keyboard for a new post on Freep.

SirKibbles
Feb 27, 2011

I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash. :10bux:

Fried Chicken posted:

poo poo is going down in Ferguson right now

https://twitter.com/AntonioFrench

vines of it. Police are blocking off streets, firing tear gas into homes, and have moved from gas and rubber bullets to now carrying shotguns


Man, it seems like right now would be a good time for the Civil Rights Division of the DoJ to have someone confirmed as head.

Anyone have a listed of the judges still unconfirmed for Obama? Be prepared for all sorts of people quoting MLK in the coming weeks while skipping over the riot is the language of the unheard one.If it could even be called a riot "riot" is more like it personally I like unrest it's what they use for white americans and goddamnit I'm an american too :911:

paragon1 posted:

The police telling press they can't enter Ferguson is hugely illegal, right?

Ah yeah it's totally illegal but if you can't enforce a law it might as well not exist. I think technically they can get away with it if they declare it a danger zone.

Neo Duckberg posted:

Ah yes, I was at that. Tear gas ain't no thang.

You can't just say this and leave it at that :cmon:

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

I finished Rick Perlstein's Nixonland (a pro read for anyone following this thread) Saturday and this Ferguson thing is outright spooky.

The whole book was, of course, spooky in the way the Tea Party is just the new face of something that's been there since the 1960s and never really went away.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

Antti posted:

the Tea Party is just the new face of something that's been there since the 1960s and never really went away.

You mean the 1860's, right?

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Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Fried Chicken posted:

poo poo is going down in Ferguson right now

https://twitter.com/AntonioFrench

vines of it. Police are blocking off streets, firing tear gas into homes, and have moved from gas and rubber bullets to now carrying shotguns


Man, it seems like right now would be a good time for the Civil Rights Division of the DoJ to have someone confirmed as head.

I'm shocked that a region with a line of segregation named after Obama has racial tensions.

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