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Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

So this came across my radar this morning. You know how Hobby Lobby wanted to refuse certain types of birth control? This is an even crazier case.

Pharmacists refuse to fill prescriptions for Plan B and Ella and now Alliance Defending Freedom is taking the case to Washington because “No one should be forced to choose between their deepest religious convictions and their profession,”

http://www.alliancedefendingfreedom.org/News/PRDetail/9239

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SEATTLE — The legal teams who won their cases on behalf of Conestoga Wood Specialties and Hobby Lobby at the U.S. Supreme Court filed a brief this week at the request of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit about the impact of the high court’s decision on a case involving two Washington pharmacists and a pharmacy owner. The 9th Circuit had suspended activity in their lawsuit, Stormans v. Wiesman, until the Supreme Court issued its ruling.

Attorneys with Alliance Defending Freedom, The Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, and the Seattle law firm Ellis, Li & McKinstry represent clients opposed to Washington state regulations that would force them to dispense the “Plan B” and “ella” drugs in violation of their religious convictions rather than allow them to refer patients to other nearby pharmacies.

“No one should be forced to choose between their deepest religious convictions and their profession,” said ADF Senior Counsel Kristen Waggoner, a former partner at Ellis, Li & McKinstry and lead counsel for the plaintiffs challenging the state regulations. “Washington’s law is an extreme outlier. Many of the most respected medical and pharmaceutical associations, including the American Pharmacists Association, support the right of a provider to refer patients. The state allows providers to refer for nearly every other reason except conscience.”

After a 12-day trial in 2011, a federal district court in Washington suspended the state’s regulations. The ruling permitted the two pharmacists and the owners of Ralph’s Thriftway in Olympia to continue to refer customers rather than sell the drugs, which can terminate human life after conception.

The district court found that the state adopted its new regulations “primarily (if not solely)” to ban religiously motivated referrals while the state, at the same time, permits pharmacies to refrain from stocking and delivering drugs for “almost unlimited” business, economic, and convenience reasons. The state and attorneys from Planned Parenthood appealed the decision to the 9th Circuit.

In its opinion, the district court observed, “The Board of Pharmacy’s 2007 rules are not neutral, and they are not generally applicable. They were designed instead to force religious objectors to dispense Plan B, and they sought to do so despite the fact that refusals to deliver for all sorts of secular reasons were permitted. The rules are unconstitutional as applied to Plaintiffs.”

“The government cannot say that referrals motivated by profit or preference are okay, but referrals motivated by a religious belief are not,” said ADF Senior Counsel Steven H. Aden.

As the brief filed with the 9th Circuit explains, “it is undisputed that the effect of the Regulations is to force Plaintiffs to choose between their religious exercise and their profession. That is a deeply troubling result in light of Hobby Lobby. It is all the more troubling when the State has stipulated that Plaintiff’s conduct causes no harm; when there is ‘an existing, recognized, workable, and already-implemented’ alternative that fully meets the State’s goals…; when the State regularly permits that alternative for a host of non-religious reasons; and when 35 state and national pharmacy associations fully support the use of that alternative for religious reasons.”

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Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Fried Chicken posted:

Wait this is actually a case? The plaintiffs win, slam dunk. It won't even be a 5-4 decision. LONG long legal precedent for letting doctors and pharmacists issue referrals rather than doing procedures on religious grounds, and being protected from lawsuits that follow from the negative consequences of them doing so.

I remember first learning about abortion as a kid because of a case like this in the 90s. A woman was in a wreck, they discovered in the treatment she was pregnant, she wanted an abortion but the catholic hospital she was at wouldn't do it and since she was in intensive care she couldn't be transferred. Ended up having to carry it to term because by the time she was cleared to be moved it was too far along.

I just like that they are complaining because they are not doing the job they were hired to do. Plus Ella and Plan B are not abortifacient but that is something they will refuse to admit

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Sometimes news stories occur that are just beautiful in the state of Mississippi. Remember that whole thing about being paid to get black voters 15 dollars a voter?

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/stevie-fielder-vote-buying-report-thad-cochran-chris-mcdaniel-noel-fritsch

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The man who said he was paid $2,000 to falsely accuse Sen. Thad Cochran (R-MS) of a vote-buying scheme to get African-Americans to vote for him in the runoff election of the Mississippi race for U.S. Senate is now saying state Sen. Chris McDaniel's (R) spokesman, Noel Fritsch, was the one who paid him to do the interview, according to the Clarion-Ledger and WJTV.

The interview was used by McDaniel in the packet they sent to the state when they announced their plan to challenge the results

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Last Wednesday Mississippi Attorney General Jim Hood (D) said his office was investigating whether Johnson himself paid Fielder to point the finger at Cochran. At the time Hood said he did not know who paid Fielder. On Monday evening Hood spokeswoman Jan Schaefer confirmed to the newspaper that Fielder said it was Fritsch who paid him.

Fritsch denied Fielder's accusation in an email to TPM and, instead, pointed the blame at Johnson and Saleem Baired, who has served as the Cochran campaign's minority outreach director.


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"Charles Johnson paid for the texts & emails Cochran/Wicker staffer Saleem Baird sent that prove Cochran bought Democrat votes," Fritsch wrote in the email. He did not respond to additional questions from TPM.

The claims from the people involved in the vote-buying report keep changing. Johnson has said that he paid Fielder for the interview but hasn't said how much. Fielder, also, previously claimed that he was paid by the Cochran campaign to get African-Americans to vote for Cochran. He later changed his story and said he was only describing a hypothetical situation.

Johnson, in a tweet on Wednesday, said he found it a "touch ridiculous" that after he admitted to paying Fielder the "media lies."

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Apr 22, 2007

Move over horse cocks

This is the ad to beat

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Yikes


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Iowa state representative Henry Rayhons, a Republican, was arrested over the weekend for having sex with his mentally incapacitated wife after a judge instructed him not to. Police told the Des Moines Register that Rayhons "abused his wife in May at the nursing home where she lived." Donna Rayhons suffered from Alzheimer's disease, and she died earlier this month.

Rayhons' son, Dale, has called his father's arrest a "witch hunt." But according to Donna's nursing home roommate, Rayhons did go "into his wife's room and pulled the curtain closed" on May 23, a week after he acknowledged to a judge that his wife could no longer consent to sex. The roommate told cops she heard "noises indicating Henry Rayhons was having sex with Donna Rayhons" after that. Surveillance video caught Rayhons disposing of undergarments into a laundry bag when he left the room.

Spousal rape has been illegal in Iowa for 25 years, but Elizabeth Barnhill, executive director of the Iowa Coalition Against Sexual Assault, told the Register that convictions are rare. Rayhons already abandoned his run for re-election earlier this month. As of now, he's not giving up his seat.

http://gawker.com/gop-rep-arrested-for-having-sex-with-mentally-incapaci-1623263671

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Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Guys, Rick Perry is going to be okay because the future Republican President is praying for him

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Dante Logos posted:

Oh, jeez! I know it will be a cold day in hell before we ever see him behind bars but if it happens, it would basically be my present for every birthday and Christmas for 10 years if it happens. The derp and Republican tears would be tasty.

I'm not saying he will go behind bars, but if someone found his "Nixon Tapes" then I would shake the hand of the person responsible and offer to buy them a drink.


I suppose what I am saying is that I would like to see him behind bars.

He could get maximum of 109 years. He won't but we can dream about it.

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Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

I guess it was not too long until they used a picture of the guy who beheaded Foley in a political ad for a GOP Senator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTG3NacV9co


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The masked man who beheaded journalist James Foley appears in a web video created in support of New Mexico Republican Senate candidate Allen Weh.

The ad, released by the New Mexico Republican Party, is a combination of clips of President Barack Obama golfing and smiling paired with violence. The video also features Weh's opponent, Sen. Tom Udall (D-NM).

Halfway through the one-minute video a still shot of Foley's not-yet-identified killer is displayed for a few seconds. Foley's image does not appear in the video, just the image of the jihadist, holding a knife.

Text at the end of the video reads "to change Washington, you must change your Senator."

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